Trump ousts White House staffer who testified against him in impeachment - lawyer

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:

Ukrainian patriot.

 Vindman served his whole adult life in the US military.

 

What, beyond leaving, has been your contribution?

Edited February 8, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[Chomper Higgot]

53 minutes ago, Boon Mee said:

At a minimum Treason needs to be cited. Same for the rest of the coup losers. 

 

MAGA 

Come on then Boon Mee, explain the grounds for an accusation of ‘treason’.

 

 

 

[Paul Henry]

The BIG BABY once again acting like a child.Can't handle the truth. And he still keeps piling up his lies 16,000 plus.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Paul Henry said:

The BIG BABY once again acting like a child.Can't handle the truth. And he still keeps piling up his lies 16,000 plus.

Precisely.

 

His vindictiveness will play well to his base (de above for example), but the rest of America will see this for what it is.

 

Trump will not gain a single vote for this but will alienate many who recognize and respect Vindman for his service.

[Ricohoc]

3 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Charge Vindman with treason!

His brother went too.

 

Trump is keeping families together.  ????

[Ricohoc]

2 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

One of the perks of being president is you get to appoint- and fire- lots of people. That has nothing to do with Putin, Russia, blah blah blah.

 

Of course, no president is going to want to keep people who hate him around. Did you really expect Ukrainian-born, Ukrainian activist LTC Vindman, who trashed his own country and country men to Russian military officers, would be kept around in the White House? Seriously, bro?

And the other side -- the LIBs/Democrats/Progressives -- believe that any military service or PAST commendations should be a shield against any misdeeds, violations of the chain of command, leaking and lying and undermining the POTUS' foreign policy.

 

One of the only times that these Progressive apologists praise anything/anyone connected to the military is when they betray their oath or the Commander in Chief.

[neeray]

3 minutes ago, Ricohoc said:

His brother went too.

 

Trump is keeping families together.  ????

That's a switch. Up until now, he's been the master at ripping families apart.

[Ricohoc]

2 hours ago, RJRS1301 said:

for telling the truth

oh forgot that is an offence

Vindman admitted that he made up his concerns from the transcript.  Vindman admitted that he shared classified material with someone not cleared.  Vindman was disciplined in the past by supervisors for similar violations.  Read up.

[Ricohoc]

3 minutes ago, neeray said:

. . . ripping families apart.

So much drama.

 

Dividing children from adults -- temporarily -- when their relationship cannot be established is not "ripping" anyone from anyone. 

[scorecard]

2 minutes ago, Ricohoc said:

Vindman admitted that he made up his concerns from the transcript.  Vindman admitted that he shared classified material with someone not cleared.  Vindman was disciplined in the past by supervisors for similar violations.  Read up.

Never seen any of that details in the various reports. Are you sure that's not more trump dishonest twist?

[scorecard]

Just now, Ricohoc said:

So much drama.

 

Dividing children from adults -- temporarily -- when their relationship cannot be established is not "ripping" anyone from anyone. 

And it certainly isn't civil. Just imagine the American citizenry outrage if US kids were separted from their parents at any checkpoint for any reason. The sky would fall in.

 

To the point, trump ain't a civil or ethical man...

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Ricohoc said:

And the other side -- the LIBs/Democrats/Progressives -- believe that any military service or PAST commendations should be a shield against any misdeeds, violations of the chain of command, leaking and lying and undermining the POTUS' foreign policy.

 

One of the only times that these Progressive apologists praise anything/anyone connected to the military is when they betray their oath or the Commander in Chief.

Pure fiction.

 

And please there is nothing to apologize for in the recognition of service, honor and truth.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Ricohoc said:

Vindman admitted that he made up his concerns from the transcript.  Vindman admitted that he shared classified material with someone not cleared.  Vindman was disciplined in the past by supervisors for similar violations.  Read up.

You of course have a link to back this up.

[neeray]

Just now, Ricohoc said:

So much drama.

 

Dividing children from adults -- temporarily -- when their relationship cannot be established is not "ripping" anyone from anyone. 

Up to you.

 

But I recall reading border stories about "ripping" families apart and then unable to reunite them.

That certainly seems to qualify as "ripping" .... . And quite "dramatic".

But as a Trump proponent, I wouldn't expect you to appreciate the gravity of this "ripping".

[Ricohoc]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

. . .

no he was trying to protect American ideals like the constitution

. . .

There can't be any claim to protecting the Constitution unless there was a violation of the Constitution.  There was no such activity occurring under Vindman's watch.

 

Exactly what "American ideals" was Vindman protecting -- specifically?

[Ricohoc]

Just now, neeray said:

. . .

But I recall reading border stories about "ripping" families apart and then unable to reunite them.

. . .

You're entitled to your dramatic perception, but there is no evidence of any "ripping" going on. 

 

Separating? Yes.  Ensuring family legitimacy? Yes.  Investigating child trafficking? Yes.

[mercman24]

this guy is a total liar as the phone conversation was made public property

[Eric Loh]

3 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Charge Vindman with treason!

Charge Trump with treason. Done. Now I am happy. 

[neeray]

1 minute ago, Ricohoc said:

You're entitled to your dramatic perception, but there is no evidence of any "ripping" going on. 

 

Separating? Yes.  Ensuring family legitimacy? Yes.  Investigating child trafficking? Yes.

Semantics !

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Ricohoc said:

There can't be any claim to protecting the Constitution unless there was a violation of the Constitution.  There was no such activity occurring under Vindman's watch.

 

Exactly what "American ideals" was Vindman protecting -- specifically?

You obviously missed his sworn testimony.

 

No Republican Congressman challenged him while on the stand.

 

He’s not being accused of perjury.

 

He told the truth.

 

 

[BobBKK]

Excellent news! go through the ranks and fire all the low life cowards whose political bias played out at the circus.

[Sujo]

10 minutes ago, Ricohoc said:

There can't be any claim to protecting the Constitution unless there was a violation of the Constitution.  There was no such activity occurring under Vindman's watch.

 

Exactly what "American ideals" was Vindman protecting -- specifically?

The ideals that when issued a subpoena you attend and tell the truth as is your duty.

 

Amazing that some consider this wrong.

 

But im sure if biden has a senate inquiry they will tie themselves in knots to change their position.

[Sujo]

10 minutes ago, Ricohoc said:

You're entitled to your dramatic perception, but there is no evidence of any "ripping" going on. 

 

Separating? Yes.  Ensuring family legitimacy? Yes.  Investigating child trafficking? Yes.

Then unable to reunite them as security kept bad records...yes.

 

Plenty of evidence if you look.

[Sujo]

11 minutes ago, mercman24 said:

this guy is a total liar as the phone conversation was made public property

No it wasnt.

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Excellent news! go through the ranks and fire all the low life cowards whose political bias played out at the circus.

Agree, fire all the repubs low life cowards whose political bias played put at the circus.

[Ricohoc]

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You obviously missed his sworn testimony.

 

No Republican Congressman challenged him while on the stand.

 

He’s not being accused of perjury.

 

He told the truth.

 

 

You made a claim that "American ideals" were being protected by Vindman.  Which ones?

 

Perjury?  Who said that?  Vindman admitted that his summary of the call was not accurate.  He told the truth about that.  ????

[Ramen087]

He was reassigned to The Pentagon.  Any other CIC would do the same.  You don’t want a person who gave such testimony in your inner circle.  It isn’t a big deal to anyone but the media sources looking for clicks via continued dislike and disparagement of the current POTUS.  

[Franko666]

Good job and good riddance, the only chance of him keeping his job was for the Dems to complete their coup. They lost, he lost and all the Dems who left the Country to spit spite at Trump lost too. 
However the good news is that Trump is great for your investments, your Country and your currency, double edged sword eh.

[Sujo]

Vindman wasnt the only one listening to the call.

 

Simple thing to do is call pompeo to contradict him. Wonder why he didnt do that.

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Franko666 said:

Good job and good riddance, the only chance of him keeping his job was for the Dems to complete their coup. They lost, he lost and all the Dems who left the Country to spit spite at Trump lost too. 
However the good news is that Trump is great for your investments, your Country and your currency, double edged sword eh.

To call a constitutionally protected impeachment a coup is objectively, 100 percent, incorrect. 

It's also absurd. The current impeached U.S. president who was not removed by the senate would have been replaced by Mike Pence if he had been removed. What kind of coup is that? Same administration. 

Edited February 8, 2020 by Jingthing