webfact Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Vietnam imports may drag down Thai rice to Bt5,000 per tonne By The Nation Farmers in the northeast province of Kalasin have called on the government to impose penalties on the importers of rice from a neighbouring country, saying that the practice has led to price decrease in the domestic market . The province has not been affected by drought. Concerns grew among farmers on Thursday (Feb 20) after learning that traders had placed orders for rice from Vietnam at a cheaper price of Bt4,000 to Bt5,000 per tonne. Farmers had a good year in 2019 with unmilled sticky rice selling at Bt12 per kilogramme and unmilled rice at around Bt15 to Bt18 per kg. They were hoping that prices would at least be Bt10-12 per kg this year, in order to make a proft, according to Prapad Phuwongkod (66), an ex-member of Kalasin Rice Farmer Association. As drought persists in most farming areas, Prapad said rice from new harvests is estimated at around Bt10,000 - Bt12,000 per tonne this year and around Bt15,000 - Bt20,000 for unmilled rice. Given rice from Vietnam is priced Bt4 - Bt5 cheaper than Thai produce per kilogramme , Farmer are concerned since the government did not a policy to import rice this year. They asked the government and related agencies to investigate and issue measures on rice import from Vietnam, on the grounds that it would drag down Thai rice price and lower quality. Prapad said price might drop to Bt 5,000 per tonne from the previous estimate of Bt20,000. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30382504 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-02-21 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 hours ago, webfact said: As drought persists in most farming areas, Here's a novel idea, make an order that Songkran can only be held in farmer's fields ! 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 How can the Vietnamese grow their rice so much cheaper? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Assurancetourix Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Thian said: How can the Vietnamese grow their rice so much cheaper? Quite simply because the standard of living is lower in Vietnam. Why do clothing wholesalers in Thailand make the clothes they sell to Thai retailers in Cambodia or Vietnam? For the same reasons ; it's world trade ... Either you are part of it or you refuse it and in this case you join the small community which includes North Korea and Cuba 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 25 minutes ago, Thian said: How can the Vietnamese grow their rice so much cheaper? Exchange rate. Value of the Baht is very high compared to the Dong. The Viets devalue their currency to follow the USD. 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAppletons Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Exchange rate. Value of the Baht is very high compared to the Dong. The Viets devalue their currency to follow the USD. You said "dong". Heh heh, heh heh. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baansgr Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, Thian said: How can the Vietnamese grow their rice so much cheaper? Its also better, the quality especially of Thai Jasmine rice has deteriated immensely over the past 5 years. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Assurancetourix Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Exchange rate. Value of the Baht is very high compared to the Dong. The Viets devalue their currency to follow the USD. exact; and thank you I forgot the baht exaggeratedly and artificially strong to be able to buy weapons and second-hand submarines 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, baansgr said: Its also better, the quality especially of Thai Jasmine rice has deteriated immensely over the past 5 years. Our favorite delivery restaurant uses jasmin rice (according to my wife) but it consists of tiny pieces, no nice large grains...the taste is good though but it looks like b-choice or something inferior.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Thian said: How can the Vietnamese grow their rice so much cheaper? That´s a good question, but Assurancetourix have already given a bloody well written answer to that one. I have a better question, though! How can the Thai farmers be so stupid, that they think Thailand can tell Vietnam to sell their rice for a higher price? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAppletons Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Matzzon said: I have a better question, though! How can the Thai farmers be so stupid, that they think Thailand can tell Vietnam to sell their rice for a higher price? They aren't. They're asking the Thai government to impose higher tariffs on imported rice. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meechai Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 I hate to say it but.... Way back when the rice scheme was on & they were paying Thai farmers more than market value & warehousing rice The thinking was the market would be shorted & price would rise with demand As we know that didn't happen but instead folks like Vietnam filled the void by growing more & more While Thai farmers were happy to take more than what rice was worth on the govt scheme I told my wife back then this will likely end badly as Thailand just created a major competitor Now it comes back to haunt them & they lose more than the govt overpay ever earned them back then 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 jasmine fragrant gives away to Orange tainted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: Farmers in the northeast province of Kalasin have called on the government to impose penalties on the importers of rice from a neighbouring country, saying that the practice has led to price decrease in the domestic market . Trying to manipulate free trade again, the market dictates the price of commodities.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Assurancetourix Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 46 minutes ago, TheAppletons said: They aren't. They're asking the Thai government to impose higher tariffs on imported rice. This will never happen because the rice trade in Thailand belongs to very wealthy Sino-Thai traders; they only exist for profit and if Vietnamese rice is as good but 2 times cheaper than Thai rice, Thai producers will have to think about growing something else because nobody will lift a finger for them. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAppletons Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Assurancetourix said: This will never happen because the rice trade in Thailand belongs to very wealthy Sino-Thai traders; they only exist for profit and if Vietnamese rice is as good but 2 times cheaper than Thai rice, Thai producers will have to think about growing something else because nobody will lift a finger for them. Doubtful. Thailand has a long history of imposing punitive tariffs to protect their wealthy monopolies. Ref: see "Chang" and "Boon Rawd". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sonhia Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 VH farmers are more pro active farmers who do not need to drink whiskey before and during a working day. VH rice is far better quality with next to no extoruon attached with most of the VH peoples being able to read, write and speak the global language of English. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, Matzzon said: That´s a good question, but Assurancetourix have already given a bloody well written answer to that one. I have a better question, though! How can the Thai farmers be so stupid, that they think Thailand can tell Vietnam to sell their rice for a higher price? Well that ain't stupid, that's how Thailand works, they make price agreements all the time...hence they won't show any retailprice on the markets. They still don't understand how business works and think their corrupt ways of doing it will also work with other countries. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TheAppletons said: Doubtful. Thailand has a long history of imposing punitive tariffs to protect their wealthy monopolies. Ref: see "Chang" and "Boon Rawd". You speak of ancient times that young people cannot know. The junta which currently governs , shot itself in the foot by making condemn Yingluck for having wanted to subsidize the rice producers; now they cannot do the rear machine; although they did it a little without any results, moreover, with the producers of raw rubber. the current purchase price is around 15 to 16 baht per kg of blanchatres ball and with the quarantine of hundreds of production plants in China, purchase prices can only fall; for it is not only that; the entire transportation system for manufactured goods is completely disorganized; the trucks are sorely lacking in drivers and those who remain, when they manage to make an outward journey, cannot make the inward journey because they are systematically quarantined by the authorities; therefore full but stationary trucks; Edited February 21, 2020 by Assurancetourix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAppletons Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said: You speak of ancient times that young people cannot know. The junta which currently governs , shot itself in the foot by making condemn Yingluck for having wanted to subsidize the rice producers; now they cannot do the rear machine; although they did it a little without any results, moreover, with the producers of raw rubber. the current purchase price is around 15 to 16 baht per kg of blanchatres ball I think google translate failed you on this post. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheAppletons said: I think google translate failed you on this post. "now they cannot do the rear machine" Can't imagine what this could mean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Thian said: How can the Vietnamese grow their rice so much cheaper? Because they probably spend more time working on the land. This is a fairly typical Thai reaction to fair competition, and instead of whinging the Thais need to become more efficient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, TheAppletons said: I think google translate failed you on this post. You tell us about Thai breweries; one that makes the Chang and the other the Leo and the Singha it has nothing to do with the smash price of Vietnamese rice compared to Thai rice. On the other hand, you could tell us about the stupid niece of the boss of the Leo who called the Isaans people stupid buffaloes ; which immediately jumped Chang's consumption in our provinces to the detriment of the Leo and the Singha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matzzon Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, TheAppletons said: They aren't. They're asking the Thai government to impose higher tariffs on imported rice. As of that was an easier task. ???????? Too me that sounds even more stupid and unaware of what really rules the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) free trade , still not available in thailand in 2020 why not trade 1 ton of rice for 1 ton of soi dog meat ? win win Edited February 21, 2020 by justin case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 27 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said: which immediately jumped Chang's consumption in our provinces to the detriment of the Leo and the Singha In our provinces? The provinces of the smart buffalo's??? 555???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAppletons Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 26 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said: You tell us about Thai breweries; one that makes the Chang and the other the Leo and the Singha it has nothing to do with the smash price of Vietnamese rice compared to Thai rice. On the other hand, you could tell us about the stupid niece of the boss of the Leo who called the Isaans people stupid buffaloes ; which immediately jumped Chang's consumption in our provinces to the detriment of the Leo and the Singha No one should call their fellow countrymen "stupid buffaloes" - I'm with you on that. And - no offense intended - but most Thai beers are just not very good. Why? Because your government imposes high taxes on good beer. The result - Thai people drink Thai beer cos it's cheap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assurancetourix Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, TheAppletons said: Because your government imposes It's not my government; I'm french and proud to be from Brittany ( province 29 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Tongue Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Wait until Cambodia gets their act together and increases rice production. They used to produce more rice than Vn or Thailand and have the land, rainfall/irrigation and farmers for rice growing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Eat more potato's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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