Michelin City Pro

[worgeordie]

I am looking to buy some Michelin City Pro tyres for a Honda Wave 125 i

I know F/A about motorbike tyres, so are they tubeless or do they need

inner tubes, if they do, does Michelin also sell tubes, no good having a

quality tyre with a <deleted> inner tube.

 

Is that a good tyre choice, it's just for my daughters motorbike,hopefully

she won't be going fast, just for safety in the coming rainy season,where

good grip is paramount.thanks

regards Worgeordie

[canthai55]

Member Papa Al swears by them

Whether he runs tubes or not I will leave him to say.

[Kwasaki]

IRC just as good now and half the price.

Go ahead and pay for import tax & names if you think you'll get better tyres. 

[fruitman]

I brought me a set from Italy....they make noise when i go 80-90....so i 'm not that happy with them. I also had a puncture which the dealers couldn't fix...Tesco sold me a repair spray which is for emergency but it's still lasting well.

[worgeordie]

21 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

IRC just as good now and half the price.

Go ahead and pay for import tax & names if you think you'll get better tyres. 

I thought Michelin's  were made in Thailand ?

and i don't consider them to be expensive,I

have always used Michlen's on cars,trucks

and HGV's that i ran, no problems.

 

Can anybody comment on tubeless or not, and if not 

do Michelin make inner tubes.

regards worgeordie 

[Kwasaki]

31 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

I thought Michelin's  were made in Thailand ?

and i don't consider them to be expensive,I

have always used Michlen's on cars,trucks

and HGV's that i ran, no problems.

 

Can anybody comment on tubeless or not, and if not 

do Michelin make inner tubes.

regards worgeordie 

What tyre type do you have on the wave now ?  If the rims can take a tubeless OK if it can't then you can put a tube in the tyre type you want, tubes are tubes same as tyres. Just keep a check on the psi constant in tubes tyres, then good to go.

[ktm jeff]

If they are spoked wheels then they probably run tubes. Michelin and Continental make good quality heavy duty tubes

[papa al]

If you have laced spokes you will need tubes.

Cast wheels can be tubeless.

[NCC1701A]

On 3/3/2020 at 4:39 PM, worgeordie said:

I am looking to buy some Michelin City Pro tyres for a Honda Wave 125 i

i have city pro's on my click and they are far superior to IRC. The difference was dramatic. Like day and night when it come to gripping the road.

 

they still need inter tubes.

 

 2460 baht out the door for a pair. make sure they pay attention to the direction of rotation arrow on the sidewall or they might put them on backwards.

 

[worgeordie]

One more question... looking at some of these tyres on Lazada,

the are selling different size tyres for FRONT and REAR ,bigger

size in rear, is that correct ?

regards worgeordie

[VocalNeal]

https://bikez.com/motorcycles/honda_wave_125_alpha_2015.php

 

Front Tire Size	70 / 90-17M / C 38P
Back Tire Size	80 / 90-17M / C 50P

 

 

Edited March 4, 2020 by VocalNeal

[Kwasaki]

20 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

One more question... looking at some of these tyres on Lazada,

the are selling different size tyres for FRONT and REAR ,bigger

size in rear, is that correct ?

regards worgeordie

That is usually normal.

[DaRoadrunner]

3 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

make sure they pay attention to the direction of rotation arrow on the sidewall or they might put them on backwards.

Many tyres are directional and have a bloody great arrow pointing direction of rotation. You would not think a tyre shop could fit the tyre the wrong way around but TiT! The other dangerous thing Thais do is fit the wrong size tyre for the wheel..... Duh, it hurts my brain.

[papa al]

On 3/3/2020 at 6:05 PM, Kwasaki said:

IRC just as good now and half the price.

Go ahead and pay for import tax & names if you think you'll get better tyres. 

If you want even cheaper,

go Vee Rubber.

They are good.

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Michelin extensively field tested the City Pro tyres

in BKK mocy-taxi trials.

Stronger, more puncture resist, better wear & in wet, than others.

A good value.

'Pro' baby; pro.

Edited March 5, 2020 by papa al

[canthai55]

31 minutes ago, papa al said:

Michelin extensively field tested the City Pro tyres

in BKK mocy-taxi trials.

Stronger, more puncture resist, better wear & in wet, than others.

Was not aware of that. Good to know.

Running Metzelers on the PCX, Diablos on the Forza

[Kwasaki]

10 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Many tyres are directional and have a bloody great arrow pointing direction of rotation. You would not think a tyre shop could fit the tyre the wrong way around but TiT!

Maybe they thought it better for when you are reversing.

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, papa al said:

If you want even cheaper,

go Vee Rubber.

They are good.

////////

Michelin extensively field tested the City Pro tyres

in BKK mocy-taxi trials.

Stronger, more puncture resist, better wear & in wet, than others.

A good value.

'Pro' baby; pro.

Yeah fair cool but it's marginal many companies can produce the technology needed nowadays for tyres.

Pirelli, Cooper (Avon), Goodyear, Continental, Dunlop, BfGoodrich, Bridgestone, Yokohama, Hankook, Firestone, Deestone, Vee Rubber etc etc. all tested.

The new tyre speed rating chart by Michelin is confusing their ratings goo up to Y,  I can only get ZR for my bike. ????

[papa al]

7 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Yeah fair cool but it's marginal many companies can produce the technology needed nowadays for tyres.

Years ago

papa bought a 2nd-hand moto in Chiangmai,

with 'new' brand-x tires.

The plan: scenic route back to Pattaya via MaeSot.

Weather was marginal, wet/drizzly.

During braking or acceleration,

the rear tire would break traction & slide.

papa went down w/ low-side fall on one tight curve.

Got the bike bent back operable, & 

returned to Patts on the third day.

Promptly stopped by I-Moto for ...

              ... well, you know,

marginally better tires.

????

 

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, papa al said:

Years ago

papa bought a 2nd-hand moto in Chiangmai,

with 'new' brand-x tires.

The plan: scenic route back to Pattaya via MaeSot.

Weather was marginal, wet/drizzly.

During braking or acceleration,

the rear tire would break traction & slide.

papa went down w/ low-side fall on one tight curve.

Got the bike bent back operable, & 

returned to Patts on the third day.

Promptly stopped by I-Moto for ...

              ... well, you know,

marginally better tires.

????

 

Yeah OK get ya but tyres in my experience are what you find in your own riding experience, feel is important Michelin are good grip and they grip and grip again I found until I low sided, Marc and others in Motogp can cope with that.

With Bridgestone I didn't have that problem they gave me a warning.

[Farangwithaplan]

2 hours ago, papa al said:

Years ago

papa bought a 2nd-hand moto in Chiangmai,

with 'new' brand-x tires.

The plan: scenic route back to Pattaya via MaeSot.

Weather was marginal, wet/drizzly.

During braking or acceleration,

the rear tire would break traction & slide.

papa went down w/ low-side fall on one tight curve.

Got the bike bent back operable, & 

returned to Patts on the third day.

Promptly stopped by I-Moto for ...

              ... well, you know,

marginally better tires.

????

 

That would have been a pain, Papa. You are spot on. Different companies have different recipes for their rubber. The vulcanizing / heat treatment process and silicone content all play a part in wet and dry grip as well as longevity. Better quality rubber just like anything else.

 

You usually gets what you pay for. Find a tyre that meets your expectations in price and performance. It sounds like you and others have for the Michelins ???? There would be little difference in the price from well respected and local tyres for a scooter.

 

 

[papa al]

1 hour ago, Farangwithaplan said:

Different companies have different recipes for their rubber. The vulcanizing / heat treatment process and silicone content all play a part in wet and dry grip as well as longevity. Better quality rubber just like anything else.

silica 

[scubascuba3]

19 hours ago, papa al said:

If you want even cheaper,

go Vee Rubber.

They are good.

 

IRC Vee Rubber come with the Honda Click 125i, have been good since I've had them 2 years, no negatives noticed. Any idea of the price of new ones? The IRC website is poor where I can't even find the ones i currently have

[Farangwithaplan]

8 hours ago, papa al said:

silica 

touche'

[OneMoreFarang]

I have to admit I never paid much attention to the tires.

I used whatever the at that time responsible technician for my bike recommended.

So my question here: Does it make a difference for "daughters motorbike" if she has brand name tires A or B?

I guess she won't use any tires to the region where it makes a difference. She won't scrap her knee in the corner...

 

What do you think?

 

[tlandtday]

On 3/4/2020 at 11:59 PM, DaRoadrunner said:

Many tyres are directional and have a bloody great arrow pointing direction of rotation. You would not think a tyre shop could fit the tyre the wrong way around but TiT! The other dangerous thing Thais do is fit the wrong size tyre for the wheel..... Duh, it hurts my brain.

Honda dealer put one on backwards for me.

[tlandtday]

Personally I would put one size larger on the bike so 80 front and you will notice better handling and ride at higher speeds.

[DaRoadrunner]

On 3/7/2020 at 2:01 PM, OneMoreFarang said:

She won't scrap her knee in the corner...

She could scrape more than her knee if she comes off cuz the tyre lacked grip. Roadrunner has personally experienced gravel rash on his <deleted> yyyyeeeeeeeooowwwwwwww!!!!!!

[canthai55]

[papa al]

[eisfeld]

On 3/7/2020 at 7:01 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

So my question here: Does it make a difference for "daughters motorbike" if she has brand name tires A or B?

I guess she won't use any tires to the region where it makes a difference. She won't scrap her knee in the corner...

Yes it can make a difference between crashing and not crashing in emergency or wet conditions. I wouldn't cheap out on tires and I've noticed big big differences between tire models.