British man is Thailand’s 48th confirmed virus victim

[Jonathan Fairfield]

British man is Thailand’s 48th confirmed virus victim

 

 

A 43-year-old British business adviser who arrived in Bangkok from London on February 29 after changing flights in Hong Kong has been confirmed as Thailand’s 48th case of the Covid-19 virus.

 

Public Health Ministry permanent secretary Dr Sukhum Karnchanapimai announced the news on Friday (March 6).

 

The Briton was admitted to a private hospital on March 3 with high fever and a cough and was later transferred to an institute specialising in respiratory disorders.

 

A 30-year-old female migrant labourer just returned to Thailand from overseas is suspected of being infected and is undergoing tests at the Bamrasnaradura Infectious Diseases Institute in Nonthaburi.

 

The 48 confirmed cases in Thailand thus far break down to 16 still being treated in medical facilities, 31 recovered and one dead.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30383518

 

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[spiekerjozef]

Stop traveling, just stay where you are !

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

22 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

31 recovered

 

Except are they REALLY recovered?  Time will tell....

 

There have been multiple cases of confirmed CV patients who were treated in hospitals, supposedly recovered and ended up testing negative for CV, and then only thereafter to end up back in hospital again with positive CV tests again.

 

 

[Vacuum]

13 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

Stop traveling, just stay where you are !

Indeed, I never understood the "ants in pants' thing.

[mtls2005]

The "undergoing treatment" catgeory - which includes an unknown number of CV19 infections - is rising, was at 1,577 as of 4 March. Seems like it's going up by ~ 300 /day.

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/situation/situation-no61-040363.pdf

 

[4MyEgo]

Will be hundreds if not thousands by next month.

 

Went to Makro shopping today, been a while as we would just go to the local Tesco for our basic stuff, but decided now with the school holidays to stock up.

 

Was frightening to see so many people wearing masks, temperature tests as you walked in, 36.4 so was good to go, I would say at least 70% had on masks, including all the staff, one customer was half wearing his black mask as if it were an accessory hanging off of his ear, then he coughs a few times. I had two of our kids with us, and stayed away from people and as soon as the wife was done shopping, I sent her and the kids to the car to wait while I lined up and paid for the bill, all this time watching and listening to the check out girl coughing, Jesus did that make me feel uncomfortable, not the Thai's though.

 

Anyways, the trip down south is off, we are staying put as I expect this to get worse, before it gets better because of certain factors out of all of our control, and yes I have become paranoid of late.

Edited March 6, 2020 by 4MyEgo

[smedly]

so correct me if I am wrong

 

of all the cases in Thailand only one has been a local infected in Thailand - a taxi driver 

 

all the other cases Thailand seems to be claiming were infected before they arrived in Thailand...……………...Came from London - transfer Hongkong, pretty much every tourist came from somewhere - were they infected before arriving 

 

How many Thais have been infected in country - apparently only one, a taxi driver

[MikeyScars]

Well, we all see the pattern here with every report presumably run by the officials. 

Report basically says Thailand is the victim. 

I will tell you who the victims are.  

It's the hardworking Thais and law abiding foreigners because officials are not capable of implementing 4 points by Ray Dalio:

 

Containing the virus (i.e., minimizing its spreading) will occur best where there are:

1) capable leaders who are able to make executive decisions well and quickly,

2) a population that follows orders,

3) a capable bureaucracy to enforce and administer the plans, and

4) a capable health system to identify and treat the virus well and quickly. 

 

[bkk6060]

18 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

Indeed, I never understood the "ants in pants' thing.

Is that why you travel?

Because many people want to get to a place for a funeral, sick relative, wedding, business, etc.

They have good/legit reasons to want to be someplace.

 

Edited March 6, 2020 by bkk6060

[spiekerjozef]

1 minute ago, bkk6060 said:

Is that why you travel?

Because many people want to get to a place for a funeral, sick relative, wedding, business, etc.

They have good reasons to want to be someplace.

 

You must have a very good reason to go to Northern Italy or Wuhan for example

[smedly]

10 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

The "undergoing treatment" catgeory - which includes an unknown number of CV19 infections - is rising, was at 1,577 as of 4 March. Seems like it's going up by ~ 300 /day.

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/situation/situation-no61-040363.pdf

 

confirmed infections (or what they will admit too) are still only 45 over an 8 week period, that is what they are telling people and I for one don't believe them

 

it is better to tell people exactly what is going on so we can all take measures to protect ourselves - as of right now Pattaya has no reported infections yet they are disinfecting major tourist areas like walking street and soi 6 ………….why ?

[ukrules]

1 minute ago, smedly said:

confirmed infections (or what they will admit too) are still only 45 over an 8 week period, that is what they are telling people and I for one don't believe them

Also zero community spread outside of people who've traveled from abroad and brought it back with them.

 

They can't keep this up forever.

 

Take this guy from the UK for example, are we supposed to believe that as infectious as this virus is that he hasn't passed it onto anyone else who has then unwittingly passed it onto others........if they very quickly locate all the people he's been in touch with including all those on his plane they might be able to keep up with it but all it takes is one person who thinks they've got a normal cold and only has mild symptoms after arriving from abroad and it's in the wild.

 

I can't believe this hasn't happened since January which is when it first came to Thailand.

[SpanishExpat]

The strategy of those morons is obvious! Basically all new cases infected themselves out of Thailand showing how great their measures within Thailand are. Even if the virus spreads much less with the climate here, Thailand would be the only country worldwide with just isolated cases not spreading further around the population. It`s close to impossible, that a person carrying the virus doesn`t spread it on plane, in the public transportation etc.

Edited March 6, 2020 by SpanishExpat

[humbug]

If they cared they would set up free-test sites around the country, to test 20, or 40 or 50,000 a day, set up extra ICU beds, so not to disrupt other patients, looking at 80-90% mild cases, and 10% needing hospital care, everyone around doesn’t believe the numbers, just like CCP china, they have the money $2-3 billion from the IMF $50 billion to pay for administrating the aid of the virus, they just going back into their gangster shells, hoping it all goes away, and they still be in charge when it’s all done, and earn more billions of dollars

[scubascuba3]

43yo man has got to be a worry, no mention of existing health conditions means game on for everyone

[JAFO]

What about the Italian in Laem Chabang today? All over the local Social media sites.

 

Make it 49..... if we can even trust 48...????

[JAG]

20 minutes ago, SpanishExpat said:

The strategy of those morons is obvious! Basically all new cases infected themselves out of Thailand showing how great their measures within Thailand are. Even if the virus spreads much less with the climate here, Thailand would be the only country worldwide with just isolated cases not spreading further around the population. It`s close to impossible, that a person carrying the virus doesn`t spread it on plane, in the public transportation etc.

Don't forget Thailand has never been colonised, not even by a virus!

[JAG]

22 minutes ago, humbug said:

If they cared they would set up free-test sites around the country, to test 20, or 40 or 50,000 a day, set up extra ICU beds, so not to disrupt other patients, looking at 80-90% mild cases, and 10% needing hospital care, everyone around doesn’t believe the numbers, just like CCP china, they have the money $2-3 billion from the IMF $50 billion to pay for administrating the aid of the virus, they just going back into their gangster shells, hoping it all goes away, and they still be in charge when it’s all done, and earn more billions of dollars

If, as I take it, they have been given a cash grant to help with fighting the virus, then that could explain a certain lack of transparency...

[ukrules]

17 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

43yo man has got to be a worry, no mention of existing health conditions means game on for everyone

Anyone can catch this, his age merely suggests that he is at a low, but not non existent risk of getting a severe reaction.

 

Chances are he will be just fine but it's important to limit spread. This guy is doing the right thing!

Edited March 6, 2020 by ukrules

[christophe75]

And what about... Malaysia ?

 

We forget them.

 

Today + 28 cases ! 

Total 83...

 

When Thailand has officially... 48 cases.

 

Damned ! Again the good luck, the som tam, the... heu... warm weather perhaps ?

????

 

 

[Mavideol]

55 minutes ago, smedly said:

so correct me if I am wrong

 

of all the cases in Thailand only one has been a local infected in Thailand - a taxi driver 

 

all the other cases Thailand seems to be claiming were infected before they arrived in Thailand...……………...Came from London - transfer Hongkong, pretty much every tourist came from somewhere - were they infected before arriving 

 

How many Thais have been infected in country - apparently only one, a taxi driver

assuming you are correct (does not correcting you) all cases but 1 in Thailand could have been avoided, if the (stingy) PM had restricted incoming travelers..... and that makes us feel (much) worse

Edited March 6, 2020 by Mavideol
spell

[Ian Nagle]

57 minutes ago, MikeyScars said:

Well, we all see the pattern here with every report presumably run by the officials. 

Report basically says Thailand is the victim. 

I will tell you who the victims are.  

It's the hardworking Thais and law abiding foreigners because officials are not capable of implementing 4 points by Ray Dalio:

 

Containing the virus (i.e., minimizing its spreading) will occur best where there are:

1) capable leaders who are able to make executive decisions well and quickly,

2) a population that follows orders,

3) a capable bureaucracy to enforce and administer the plans, and

4) a capable health system to identify and treat the virus well and quickly. 

 

Maybe i've just got a really lousy warped  sense of humour yet, I laughed out loud and stopped reading after point 2.

Edited March 6, 2020 by Ian Nagle

[DrTuner]

At least they seem to be testing farangs. For once we're preferred. For obvious reasons, then they can scream "the evil farangs brought it here!" when the real figures finally see sunlight.

[scubascuba3]

6 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Anyone can catch this, his age merely suggests that he is at a low, but not non existent risk of getting a severe reaction.

 

Chances are he will be just fine but it's important to limit spread. This guy is doing the right thing!

Ah yes for some reason i took it that he died, good news only caught the virus

[DrTuner]

7 minutes ago, christophe75 said:

And what about... Malaysia ?

 

We forget them.

 

Today + 28 cases ! 

Total 83...

 

When Thailand has officially... 48 cases.

 

Damned ! Again the good luck, the som tam, the... heu... warm weather perhaps ?

????

Malaysia must've had a freak cold spell due to climate change. Or they've gotten their hands on some testing equipment instead of sending the samples to the back of the weeks long queues at Thailand's WHO reference labs.

[Yorkshire Tea]

I bet the thai govt is loving this news,  Ai Farang has the disease.  All those hundreds of thousands of chinese visitors over CNY didn't infect anyone...

[DrTuner]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

The "undergoing treatment" catgeory - which includes an unknown number of CV19 infections - is rising, was at 1,577 as of 4 March. Seems like it's going up by ~ 300 /day.

 

https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/eng/file/situation/situation-no61-040363.pdf

And another number to look at is "Sought medical services on their own at hospitals", which is the vast majority of PUIs. Meaning usurpers are trying to stick their heads in the sand instead of aggressively trying to find and isolate cases.

 

Now.. how many ICU beds does Thailand have? With this rate should be fully booked at some date, which I guess we could estimate from the growth rate and the usual percentage of infected ending up in critical condition.

[White Christmas13]

16 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Anyone can catch this, his age merely suggests that he is at a low, but not non existent risk of getting a severe reaction.

 

Chances are he will be just fine but it's important to limit spread. This guy is doing the right thing!

Yes in Australia a 30 year old women got it and a 8 months old baby

and today a 11 year old schoolboy.

[DrTuner]

Don't know why I didn't look for this before.. here's a video of the RT-PCR procedure: 

 

 

And here are the instructions from NIH: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/conventional-rt-pcr-followed-by-sequencing-for-detection-of-ncov-rirl-nat-inst-health-t.pdf?sfvrsn=42271c6d_4

 

Doesn't include sampling, but that's how a diagnosis works. Nothing there tells me it takes days to execute it.

 

EDIT: more info on currently available test methods: https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/how-sars-cov-2-tests-work-and-whats-next-in-covid-19-diagnostics-67210

Edited March 6, 2020 by DrTuner

[saengd]

39 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

43yo man has got to be a worry, no mention of existing health conditions means game on for everyone

Age isn't a factor in determining whether you catch the virus or not, only of you have a higher risk of death.