Change of Thai attitude since Anutin Twitter outburst

[drbeach]

4 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I think in the moment lots of people are stressed and lots of people overreact.

And whatever is done (like close this and that, restrictions) some people will think and say it's a good idea and others will think it's a bad idea.

Summary: Nobody really know what should be done and how it would change what will happen in the future.

But somehow everybody things: something should be done.

And it's obviously always easier to do something with people who are easy to identify like "Westerners".

Let's try to stay cool and take it easy. It will get worse before it will get better.

Exactly the point I made in an earlier reply. Easier to take it out on westerners, since we stand out more than Chinese. However, one can't help but think the inflammatory remarks made by Anutin, first last month and now, even if the latter are later proven to have come from an impersonator, which could be anyone from one of his staff member's (as is being claimed) or a member of the public trying to be funny, have added fuel to the fire that wouldn't have occurred otherwise.

 

Thailand should, for the good of Thais and expats/foreigners already here, do what other countries have done and close the border to all foreign arrivals (or at least all Europeans and Americans) for 15-30 days (except expats returning to the country) just until this situation settles down a bit. Then fewer locals would have reason to become worried, since neither "little ghosts" nor "farang" nor "Chinese or khon Jeen/Jek" would be able to 'infect' anyone.

 

Why Thailand is still desperately keeping the borders open in a last-ditched attempt to make a few bucks beggars belief. By keeping the borders open, these attitudes are flourishing, whereas if the borders were temporarily closed, people would have less reason to discriminate.

[BeltAndRoad]

10 minutes ago, drbeach said:

Well that's the thing isn't it...why is it surprising to some, that a group of immigrants is racist towards the native population of a country? It happens the world over. There are racist farang living in Thailand, though I'm sure, they're a small minority and there are Asians living in Australia who dislike the native inhabitants, the Aborigines.

There are most definitely Asians in Australia who dislike Aboriginals. People are tribal and view different tribes with skepticism, it's fundamental in the protection of one's culture and preservation of the tribe itself.  This is not a new development, despite the many efforts of westerners trying to convince themselves otherwise.

[yogi100]

16 minutes ago, drbeach said:

Well that's the thing isn't it...why is it surprising to some, that a group of immigrants is racist towards the native population of a country? It happens the world over. There are racist farang living in Thailand, though I'm sure, they're a small minority and there are Asians living in Australia who dislike the native inhabitants, the Aborigines.

Wait till they start blowing people up on the transport system and at pop concerts!

 

Then you'll know what racism against the native inhabitants is really all about.

 

That's not happened in the LOS nor Oz as yet.

[Isaanbiker]

Yep, it seems to be true that these words have a lot of influence to our "loved ones."

 

I've just bought some nice lingerie for my wife and she said:

 

Wow, let's go to the bedroom, you dirty ol' man. Give it to me baby. Aha aha.....????

 

 

   

[ThailandRyan]

7 minutes ago, drbeach said:

Exactly the point I made in an earlier reply. Easier to take it out on westerners, since we stand out more than Chinese. However, one can't help but think the inflammatory remarks made by Anutin, first last month and now, even if the latter are later proven to have come from an impersonator, which could be anyone from one of his staff member's (as is being claimed) or a member of the public trying to be funny, have added fuel to the fire that wouldn't have occurred otherwise.

 

Thailand should, for the good of Thais and expats/foreigners already here, do what other countries have done and close the border to all foreign arrivals (or at least all Europeans and Americans) for 15-30 days (except expats returning to the country) just until this situation settles down a bit. Then fewer locals would have reason to become worried, since neither "little ghosts" nor "farang" nor "Chinese or khon Jeen/Jek" would be able to 'infect' anyone.

 

Why Thailand is still desperately keeping the borders open in a last-ditched attempt to make a few bucks beggars belief. By keeping the borders open, these attitudes are flourishing, whereas if the borders were temporarily closed, people would have less reason to discriminate.

I agree with closing the borders and gathering places such as large venues.  If you have not done so already be prepared to self isolate yourself for at least 21 days.  The time for stocking your pantry and freezer is long gone.  As I have observed panic buying and loading up and clearing out shelf space here in BKK has already started.  The Government seems to have gone into hiding and instead of being out in front of this are more like ostrich's with their head stuck in the sand.  The people in my condominium are helping there neighbors, and it seems like everyone around me is preparing for the necessary measures when its announced.  My pharmacist neighbor has said that folks have been stocking up with there medications instead of buying for the week they bought for the month.  

[drbeach]

4 hours ago, SteveK said:

Anutin knows that he can say whatever he wants because he is the leader of the Bhumjaithai party, which in essence makes him unsackable no matter what he does. I wouldn't be surprised if what he says is the tip of the iceberg regarding the government's attitude towards westerners, and the more bile he spews about us, the more likely is that the Thais will start to feel justified in being more overtly racist towards farangs.

 

So he isn't going anywhere soon. And I suspect he will say something else about farangs in the weeks to come, especially now that China is actively trying to shift the blame for the coronavirus onto the USA/Europe. On one hand you've got almost daily stories about the woes of the Thai tourism industry (https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51796812), and on the other, you've got this seniopr government minister with an obvious chip on his shoulder making these disgustingly racist comments. Either the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, or more likely, there is a severe lack of brainpower here.

Excellent comments.

 

As I've said numerous times in these threads...the poorer and less educated masses will take his comments at face value. Many Thais believe in the most absurd conspiracy theories and are easily manipulated by those in power.

 

I know someone, a friend of a friend who's on my Facebook friends list but I wouldn't consider her a personal friend. In the aftermath of the Feb 8 mall shooting, her post was like "I'm so so happy that we're living under a military government". I didn't respond but I was thinking: "what, huh? Your military friends didn't help stop the slaughter of 30 innocents did they?!" Nor did they manage to stop the earlier shooting of 3 civilians at that gold shop in Robinson Lopburi. Or the other 2 ones in the Bangkok area that ended without any casualties. At least 4 shootings (of which there were 2 mass shootings) since the beginning of the year and you "thank" your incompetent government? The brainwashing and insanity runs deep here. What surprises me further is the lack of media talk about gun control (except among the more liberal media channels like channel One31 and ThaiPBS).

 

As for Anutin...I think he could be let go...but he would remain the head of the Bhumjaithai party. That's possible, isn't it?

[Isaanbiker]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

I agree with closing the borders and gathering places such as large venues.  If you have not done so already be prepared to self isolate yourself for at least 21 days.  The time for stocking your pantry and freezer is long gone.  As I have observed panic buying and loading up and clearing out shelf space here in BKK has already started.  The Government seems to have gone into hiding and instead of being out in front of this are more like ostrich's with their head stuck in the sand.  The people in my condominium are helping there neighbors, and it seems like everyone around me is preparing for the necessary measures when its announced.  My pharmacist neighbor has said that folks have been stocking up with there medications instead of buying for the week they bought for the month.  

The time for stocking up your freezer is long gone?

 

  You've observed some very important human behaviour.

 

Thanks for sharing your pharmacist neighbor's input on that. It's always good to hear that from highly educated specialists. 

 

 

[Kadilo]

2 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:

The time for stocking up your freezer is long gone?

 

  You've observed some very important human behaviour.

 

Thanks for sharing your pharmacist neighbor's input on that. It's always good to hear that from highly educated specialists. 

 

 

His “pharmacist neighbour” as in his neighbour who is a pharmacist I think he means. 

[drbeach]

3 hours ago, mngmn said:

Are you serious?  The White Australia Policy ended in 1970s and you are using it to justify a racist outburst fifty years later in 2020?  In any case Thai Ministers are welcome in Australia now with the welcome even being extended to correctional facilities for some.

 

Have already commented on the Howard era in another post.

 

Daley said "Our young children will flee and who are they being replaced with? They are being replaced by young people from typically Asia with PhDs," and "So there's a transformation happening in Sydney now where our kids are moving out and foreigners are moving in and taking their jobs".  I see it more as a suggestion that young Australians think more carefully about their futures in an increasingly competitive world.  BTW this is almost a constant theme in many posts on TV.  In a few years time the Asians with PhDs will be Australian citizens who are able to work, own property, vote and will pay the same price for everything as I do.  No amount of PhDs will ever achieve that for a "white n*gger" in Thailand.

Actually, "white n*ggers" can become Thai citizens and avail themselves of all the rights as native born citizens. That being said, they will find themselves subtly discriminated against in the same ways a 1970s Asian citizen of Australia would have been, mainly because Thailand is still a very politically incorrect society and there are few migrants from non-Asian countries. Since Thailand also has policies that Australia has never had (that I'm aware of) such as dual pricing, it might be an uphill battle for some farang Thai to be accepted and not discriminated against. One of the most successful and definitely the richest of the "farang Thais" is a naturalized Thai citizen of white American heritage, a billionaire who owns Minor International Group, Bill Heinecke. 

 

I could imagine that Indian Thais (who are very small in number and stand out from the rest of Thai society) may be able to give some in-depth perspectives on their experiences living as a recognized minority group in Thailand. I would imagine they also face subtle discrimination but possibly of a different type than farang who become Thais, mainly because there are so few farang Thais, and even fewer than there are Indian-Thais.

[ben2talk]

First thought - the best way to catch coronavirus is to indulge in social activity. Visiting massage venues would be high on my list of risks easy to avoid...

 

The fact that they're running a massage service and worrying about farang giving them the virus is just indictive of low education and ignorance. They're more likely to catch it from ignorant Thai's.

[Kalorymetr]

I was refused serving food today for an unknown reason in a food court in shopping mall(I just came here and still learning basics of Thai) while local had been served.

I had weird looks all day while exploring local sois and sukhumvit area.

 

I do not take all of this personally as I come from developing country (Poland) and it is also very xenophobic society - especially less educated, poor and country folk.

 

 

First question I was asked at work - Why I came here and if it was for the girls

[Denim]

This thread is so full of negativity it just seems that half the posts are fiction made up by posters with an axe to grind against some perceived slight they imagine they have been the victim of . 

 

I have just driven from Kanchanaburi to Petchabun staying in hotels and visiting malls , banks and restaurants and met with only good service and smiles exactly as normal. I have not met with the smallest paranoia mentioned here either in my travels or locally.

 

Either I am a whole lot more handsome than my wife will agree or where I live is an oasis of normality.

 

Now excuse me while I set our dogs on the lynch mob outside our gate baying for my diluted royal blood.

[Destiny1990]

17 hours ago, CNXexpat said:

I wonder why they are so afraid of sick farangs. There are NO corona cases with farangs in Thailand. Most are Thais. So they should cancel all appointments with Thais.

Yeah that does seem xenophobic, meanwhile the virus welcomes everybody  !

[soalbundy]

18 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

you will be surprised how long things last on the internet.

Hint: it's forever.

Nothing more boring than old news or the rubbish that I posted a year ago.

Edited March 16, 2020 by soalbundy

[soalbundy]

Well I just returned from my morning walk around the lake here in Isan, people in their gardens waved at me as usual, I was greeted by a couple of joggers and had a chat with a couple of people on the way. Nothing negative to report. Last week I was at the dentist in our local hospital and have another appointment for the 19th, nobody except for the women dentists wore a mask in the hospital, up to 500 people waiting in the main hall, 30 or so in the dentist waiting room. Before treatment everybody was temperature tested, no mention of sanitizer gels or the like. So no nothing has changed, if your hospital has a policy I can imagine it was an ad hoc decision because of the news from Europe and the officials carrying out this policy are trying to avoid a reprimand so I wouldn't make a big thing out of it.

[watso63]

A couple of coughs, a sneeze in their direction, about turn and briskly march away. Always good for a laugh????

[metisdead]

There is a already a topic about Anutin running here:

 

 

 

Please continue there.

 

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