Thailand confirms 33 new COVID-19 infections, 147 cases in total

[JCP108]

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Except their graphic that's dated today (March 16) doesn't include the additional 33 cases they announced this afternoon... And I'm looking at their website tonight as of 9 pm, many hours after today's announcement, and they still haven't updated the live graphic...

 

 

No need to rush these things. It's not like it's supposed to be a real-time graphic updated daily...er, wait...

[rabas]

59 minutes ago, Traubert said:

There are no reported cases of surface to person contagion. Theoretically it is acknowledged but all the documented cases are person to person.

Surfaces are immune to viruses and cannot contract the disease thus there is nothing to report.  If you mean person to person via mutual contact with a common surface, it is very common and documented for at least 100 years. See Louis Pasteur. Quite common for cold and corona viruses.

Edited March 16, 2020 by rabas

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

10 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

No need to rush these things. It's not like it's supposed to be a real-time graphic updated daily...er, wait...

 

If you're bored, you can always look at the EN language update reports, where the most recent one as of tonight is dated March 13!  

[Wongkitlo]

2 hours ago, androokery said:

I think you’ll find that air conditioning actually removes moisture. That’s sort of how it works. Or do you mean on the other side, i.e. the moisture is just pumped elsewhere?I would

I just thought that  a closed environment like an air conditioned shopping centre would have more moisture from people breathing than out in the open. 

[Eibot]

4 hours ago, Timwin said:

That is actually good news. The spreading is not exploding the same way as in northern countries. It is the hot&humid&UV lowering the R0 down. 

No, I don't believe that. I think the virus mutated. It's blowing up in Malysia, Philippines etc. 

 

People are simply not being tested. 

[Orton Rd]

1 hour ago, Traubert said:

They've still got less than HK who are still importing a few a day because people heading for mainland China after landing in HK and being told they're going into a quarantine hotel at the border are turning back and waiting in HK for two weeks.

 

The Thai tracing seems good too, they seem to know where every case originated. That's key. Plus still only one death.

Only one reported as being from covid19, what about all those pneumonia deaths, did they check them for covid. Either it's another strain here as only one dead, or they are not being honest.

[Eibot]

2 hours ago, Sheryl said:

With each confirmed case they then do contact tracing and testing and at least a few of the close contacts are likely  to be positive so this pattern of increase is to be expected. In addition Thais are returning from countries of severe transmission (e.g. Italy) and being tested/screened on arrival. Something like 7 of the last group from Italy were sent straight to hospital.

 

As long as all cases can be tied to another  known case or to someone arriving from abroad it is reassuring. It is when you start having cases cropping up that can't be explained as imported or that have no known connection to an already known case that things have progressed to the next level.

My wife fell sick today. My brother in law came from bangkok 5 days ago. He has his own minivan and drives foreigners around. His last costumers were a family from SK and a single man from China. 

Now my wife has fallen ill and we went to the hospital today. They told us there was no need for testing, and to self-isolate. Only come back if she has breathing problems (Khon Kaen). 

 

Go figure.

[Orton Rd]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Just heard from doctor at Rayong provincial hospital -  400 cases been tested positive.

Nationwide? you might ask about the pneumonia deaths if you get a chance.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

16 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Nationwide? you might ask about the pneumonia deaths if you get a chance.

 

http://www.boe.moph.go.th/boedb/surdata/506wk/y63/d31_0963.pdf

 

http://www.boe.moph.go.th/boedb/surdata/506wk/y62/d31_5262.pdf

 

[Traubert]

59 minutes ago, DLock said:

 

Please.

You know better? Or just more 'I don't believe it.'

 

There's a lot of jaw bumping about viral pneumonia going on, but that's what kills flu sufferers and it's an established fact that flu kills hundreds of thousands every year all over the world before this virus even appeared.

 

So 'please' is just meaningless.

 

Unless you are Joan Rivers and I claim my 1000bht.

 

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Just heard from doctor at Rayong provincial hospital -  400 cases been tested positive.

Ten days ago, there was a guy near Udon who's said his wife heard from a doctor that someone had died of Covid-19 at his hospital. It was all BS.

 

Unless you have a citation or a reliable corroborating source, such claims are really not helpful at all.

[Traubert]

7 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Ten days ago, there was a guy near Udon who's said his wife heard from a doctor that someone had died of Covid-19 at his hospital. It was all BS.

 

Unless you have a citation or a reliable corroborating source, such claims are really not helpful at all.

I was trying not to say that. I keep getting the hoof for hurting peoples feelings.

[SAINT THOMAS]

4 hours ago, Xaos said:

And how many tests they did?

 

Apparently its 3500 for thais in gov hospitals and it can be 25 000 in Bangkok Hospital - saw poster pic here o other thread.

 

Anyone got that Bangkok hospital poster pic with 25k test ad?

 

Here are the costs if you do get a coronavirus test at a hospital:

Public/University Hospitals

• Chulalongkorn Memorial Hospital: Tests are 3,000 – 6,000 baht, same price for foreigners. Admission available. 

• Ramathibodi Hospital: Due to limited test kits, testing will only be given to those with Covid-19 symptoms. Tests cost 5,000 baht for Thais, 7,000 baht to foreigners. 

• Siriraj Piyamaharajkarun Hospital: Does not provide Covid tests unless patients already have Covid-19 symptoms. The hospital said they cannot determine the price for a test, since they can only be prescribed by doctors. 

• Bamrasnaradura Infectious Diseases Institute: Tests cost 8,000 – 14,000 baht, but may be free depending on the doctors’ discretion. 

Private Hospitals

• Ramkhamhaeng Hospital: 6,500 baht for a Drive Thru service where doctors will swab your nose and throat. Medical results will be sent through text messages within eight hours. Same price for both Thais and foreigners. Book via their Facebook, though the service is fully booked through Thursday.
• Vichaiyut Hospital: 7,500 baht, not including any prescribed medicine. Same price for Thai and foreigners, but tests are reserved for those showing symptoms.
• Bangkok Christian Hospital: 8,200 – 10,000 baht. Same price for Thais and foreigners.
• St. Louis Hospital: 8,000 baht but will only test those showing Covid-19 symptoms. Same price for Thais and foreigners.
• Phyathai 2 Hospital: 6,500 baht, but will have additional service fees. Same price for Thais and foreigners.
• Phyathai 3 Hospital: Same price as Phyathai 2, but will only test on those with symptoms or recent travel to at-risk countries. 
• Samitivej Sukhumvit Hospital: Will not say how much a test costs. Tests can only be prescribed by doctors, no walk-in check ups available. 
• Samitivej Hospital Thonburi: 8,000 – 10,000 baht, same price for foreigners.
• Bumrungrad International Hospital: 10,500 baht for those with no Covid-19 symptoms, test results available within 48 hours. Those with symptoms pay 7,500 – 18,500 baht, but the hospital will not admit Covid-19 patients. They will be sent to other hospitals.
• Paolo Phaholyothin Hospital: 5,000 baht for Thais, 7,000 baht to foreigners.
• PatRangsit Hospital: 8,000 baht for both Thais and foreigners.
• Praram 9 Hospital: 10,000 baht for patients with symptoms, 8,000 baht for those without. Same price for Thais and foreigners.
• Mongkutwattana Hospital: 6,000 baht for both Thais and foreigners. 

Covid-19 Tests Unavailable At:

• BNH Hospital
• Samitivej Srinakarin Hospital
• Bangkok Hospital
• Siriraj Hospital
• Rajavithi Hospital; but treats patients sent via the Department of Disease Control for free. 
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https://www.khaosodenglish.com/featured/2020/03/16/some-hospitals-apply-farang-pricing-for-coronavirus-testing/?fbclid=IwAR2knMsX6DXB7xVbYLn8YC69OVwhMt-SBlPNs-MMOfOioi45titts4FE4_8 

I would guess by keeping the prices so High almost no Thais would get tested or even foreigners ahead of time, so it leads to lower numbers of Infected and Dead with/from Coronavirus.

 

China was doing the same thing, people not being tested or confirmed and died, that's what the 2 whistle blowers were recording, dead in hospital beds and body bags loaded in Ambulances, the video is most likely still online.

 

This video came out a month ago and at this point still, no one knows the true numbers in China, while Italy recorded almost 400 Dead in 24 hours.

 

 

[Orton Rd]

why do the prices vary eg 3-6 k, what is the difference for if not one price for Thai and another for foreigners? I thought tests were all done the same way.

Edited March 16, 2020 by Orton Rd

[NanLaew]

23 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

why do the prices vary eg 3-6 k, what is the difference for if not one price for Thai and another for foreigners? I thought tests were all done the same way.

What value is the test when we are still in the early days of this outbreak? One can test -ve today and by the same time next week or even tomorrow, you could be +ve. It's a test, not a flu shot.

 

Blanket testing is a huge waste of money, resources and effort. It maybe makes a lot of people feel good but lends a false sense of security. That's why the Chinese and other countries stopped the universal testing and focused on the most likely candidates and that's when a spike was seen in their daily counts as the 'real' indicators, the real infected numbers became apparent.

Edited March 16, 2020 by NanLaew

[TheAppletons]

18 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

why do the prices vary eg 3-6 k, what is the difference for if not one price for Thai and another for foreigners? I thought tests were all done the same way.

  Because all of the various hospitals have differing cost structures.  Varying amounts of overhead, square footage, salary costs, administrative, and other cost centers.  Same reason any other treatment doesn't have an identical cost to the patient across all hospitals and/or medical clinics.

[Soikhaonoiken]

5 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

That’s right now that it’s getting hotter the numbers are starting to go up much more rapidly.That must mean this virus likes the hot temperatures.

Didn't a Minister say a few weeks ago, that once the weather gets hotter the virus will disappear as it doesn't like it hot... ????

[Thunder26]

9 minutes ago, Soikhaonoiken said:

Didn't a Minister say a few weeks ago, that once the weather gets hotter the virus will disappear as it doesn't like it hot... ????

Those were the initial speculations that the virus doesn't like hot and humid weather. Even Trump said that starting from April this virus would go away.  I understand hot weather might have a slowing down effect on spreading, but humid, I'm not that sure. Cloudy and rainy weather I think it's perfect for the spread. The weather pattern shifted in Bangkok becoming less hotter and with more moisture in the air from yesterday. That's not good in my opinion.

[MikeN]

2 hours ago, JCP108 said:

No need to rush these things. It's not like it's supposed to be a real-time graphic updated daily...er, wait...

Unlike this :

 

 

 

[SAINT THOMAS]

3 hours ago, Eibot said:

My wife fell sick today. My brother in law came from bangkok 5 days ago. He has his own minivan and drives foreigners around. His last costumers were a family from SK and a single man from China. 

Now my wife has fallen ill and we went to the hospital today. They told us there was no need for testing, and to self-isolate. Only come back if she has breathing problems (Khon Kaen). 

 

Go figure.

Sorry to hear that, do hope hope she gets well.

 

I left about 3 weeks ago my Taxi driver from the bus station to my hotel and hotel to airport both couldn't stop coughing,

 

I have a brother in law in Bangkok also that is a Taxi driver [ motorcycle ] hoping he doesn't visit my wife, since she is alone in our house till I get back in a few months.

[bkkcanuck8]

4 hours ago, Eibot said:

My wife fell sick today. My brother in law came from bangkok 5 days ago. He has his own minivan and drives foreigners around. His last costumers were a family from SK and a single man from China. 

Now my wife has fallen ill and we went to the hospital today. They told us there was no need for testing, and to self-isolate. Only come back if she has breathing problems (Khon Kaen). 

 

Go figure.

From the point of view of medical professions treating the sickness - testing for COVID-19 does not change how they would treat your wife.  It would be the same for flu or for COVID-19.  Basically the treatment is just to let the virus run it's course -- unless and until she has severe symptoms/complications such as difficulty breathing, abnormally high temperatures that risk organ damage, or acute pain... at which point you would go into hospital for support until the disease has relented.  At no point do they need the test for treatment.

 

The test is only necessary tracing an outbreak and for policy determination with regards to controlling an outbreak.   I have had no doubt that they are not testing local transmission of the disease and only reacting to it at this point.  It has been obvious that there is ongoing outbreak above what they have confirmed, but they seem to be fine waiting and seeing if there is a significant upswing in the local population before changing course.  I hope that does not happen, but I fear it is only a matter of time.   It was likely transmitted locally in the US for a month prior 'the sudden' upswing (which they still don't have visibility on) [based on genetic testing of infections after the fact - basically genetic genealogy of the virus].

 

They are making the assumption that if she is not part of tracing contacts that are known that she has the flu...

Edited March 16, 2020 by bkkcanuck8

[Solidpoo]

I have no doubt thailand and most of SEA would follow italy's path in the coming weeks. Especially Thailand and Indonesia.

[Don Chance]

Cases multiply by x10 every 2 weeks.  Good news is that by August it will all be over.

 

BTW, do you think Thailand will close it's borders?  I am thinking of flying back next week!

Edited March 16, 2020 by Don Chance

[mbenson]

11 hours ago, Timwin said:

That is actually good news. The spreading is not exploding the same way as in northern countries. It is the hot&humid&UV lowering the R0 down. 

As regards the hot & humid hypothesis: Malaysia now has 566 cases. Far fewer tourists and a smaller population. Singapore reports 243.

[bkkcanuck8]

37 minutes ago, Don Chance said:

Cases multiply by x10 every 2 weeks.  Good news is that by August it will all be over.

 

BTW, do you think Thailand will close it's borders?  I am thinking of flying back next week!

I could see required self-quarantine for 2 weeks... and you might need a medical certificate... but I don't think they will close the border completely.

 

The question though will there be any flights ... from which country are you planning to escape from? 

Edited March 16, 2020 by bkkcanuck8

[Chazar]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-51906604

[Chazar]

9 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

wear masks if sick,

finally  the  penny  drops...............now  u  have  had  your  own  mask  on  for  a  week.............something  u  want  to  tell  us  all?

also  wear  masks if  taking  care  of  sick  people OTHERWISE DONT WEAR A MASK

[Chazar]

5 hours ago, Soikhaonoiken said:

Didn't a Minister say a few weeks ago, that once the weather gets hotter the virus will disappear as it doesn't like it hot... ????

and  theres  no mask shortage and everythings  under control

[Tayaout]

1 hour ago, Chazar said:

and  theres  no mask shortage and everythings  under control

I'm worried that he said there is food for everyone and Thailand must win the fight. 

[Orton Rd]

7 hours ago, TheAppletons said:

  Because all of the various hospitals have differing cost structures.  Varying amounts of overhead, square footage, salary costs, administrative, and other cost centers.  Same reason any other treatment doesn't have an identical cost to the patient across all hospitals and/or medical clinics.

I was referring to prices at the same hospitals