Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

Most men have been manipulated by women since the first man when the first woman "suggested" that he give her the best bits of the sabre toothed tiger he just killed, in return for a warm fuzzy feeling. I know who got the best of that deal.

well it werent the frikkin tiger was it

10 minutes ago, Chazar said:

was he a midget?

I have seen it in many marriages in my culture. That's just to show respect to the groom and it's more like that I am giving you my princess's hands and now you need to fulfill her wishes. So he touches the feet as a sign of respect. 

2 minutes ago, lovethai123 said:

Ok, thanks. Let me try. 

 

I am already fed up of my money going to raise kids who aren't mine. 

My first ( western ) partner managed to get me to support one of her children financially till I left her. I was really stupid back then, but I wasn't alone by any means. Western world is full of men supporting stepchildren.

2 minutes ago, lovethai123 said:

I have seen it in many marriages in my culture. That's just to show respect to the groom and it's more like that I am giving you my princess's hands and now you need to fulfill her wishes. So he touches the feet as a sign of respect. 

that wont go down well in the land of bs

1 minute ago, Chazar said:

that wont go down well in the land of bs

That reminds me of when I told a ( western ) female friend that my Thai wife put my shoes on for me. She was so offended at me that I didn't tell her anything more about all the things a Thai wife does that make them so much better than a western model. Seemed a wise thing to do.

10 minutes ago, lovethai123 said:

Ok, thanks. Let me try. 

 

I am already fed up of my money going to raise kids who aren't mine. 

tell her  you need to sell some of their organs to  support  your elderly  parents, a  couple of  kidneys should do it and its not like youre being greedy as they have two......greedy  buggers

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That reminds me of when I told a ( western ) female friend that my Thai wife put my shoes on for me. She was so offended at me that I didn't tell her anything more about all the things a Thai wife does that make them so much better than a western model. Seemed a wise thing to do.

Mine  cant cook and is  untidy, good  jugs and useless round the house but earns  good  money, they should create a new  visa...Thai Wives  supporting flang husbands  just for me

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

My first ( western ) partner managed to get me to support one of her children financially till I left her. I was really stupid back then, but I wasn't alone by any means. Western world is full of men supporting stepchildren.

But only in Thailand foreigner boyfriend is expected to take care of the entire greedy family. 

 

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That reminds me of when I told a ( western ) female friend that my Thai wife put my shoes on for me. She was so offended at me that I didn't tell her anything more about all the things a Thai wife does that make them so much better than a western model. Seemed a wise thing to do.

This reminds me of a British girl I met in siem reap years ago. We were together for a few days but it didn't go very well. She always thought she is better than me even though I was paying for all her stupid cocktails and Cambodian adventures. 

I just asked her to massage my head for a bit and she dumped me and told me that she is not one of those asian whores. 

1 minute ago, lovethai123 said:

This reminds me of a British girl I met in siem reap years ago. We were together for a few days but it didn't go very well. She always thought she is better than me even though I was paying for all her stupid cocktails and Cambodian adventures. 

I just asked her to massage my head for a bit and she dumped me and told me that she is not one of those asian whores. 

I used to go to the Thai beaches a lot. I laughed like a drain seeing all those western women ordering their tame BF around like they were his boss. Far as I know, no backpacker couples go to Pattaya- the girls know they probably wouldn't be leaving Pattaya as a couple.

35 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Had you married a woman in your own country would you have been expected to provide an education for relatives and keep her parents "comfortable"?

What would they have done had you not married into the family?

Yes, I helped my wife's family in USA... they were poor and a bit nasty too, but it made my wife feel better to help them. 

 

As to my Thai family, they would have survived just not as comfortably. 

 

If you had good fortune wouldn't you want to share some of it with the people closest to you? It makes me feel much better than if i bought a wad of gold chains... 

This "infinite" love is a fact.

 

Nothing to do with the background of the woman.

 

Is it annoying ?

 

Yes sure !

 

It is irrational (sometimes) ?

 

Yes.

 

Is it unfair (some children among the same family... are more "equal" than others, as far as "infinite" love is concerned)....

 

Oh yes....

 

But to marry a thai woman... means to marry (a little bit) her parents too.

 

So deal with it, as a grown man. You have responsabilities. And some of those responsabilities are... linked to money.

 

That's the way it works.

 

Her 2 parents are old, and with very small income ... They need medical care... And if your wife has no income on her own... What would you do ? Complain and cry about a little bit of money, and let them rot ?

 

Think like a western man of the 19th century. The "bourgeois mariage" was... a contract. 

 

A deal.

 

Love, if any, would come, eventually, after. As a bonus. ????

 

You see... nothing new under the sun !

 

So in order to keep your fair share of sanity, i would advise you to stop the paranoia ("they take advantage of me ! Help momy !"), stop pretending like a teenager to "defeat the system" or "game the game"... and just see those gestures as "social".

 

Take it seriously as your responsability as a man. And lightly as well.

 

That's the key, to put some distance.

 

At the end of the day, would you complain about having a happy wife, with her happy parents ?

 

Of course not. It's your interest.

1 hour ago, Matzzon said:

Some people would say that is crazy. Count me in! 

Yo, lively up yourself... I thought Rastas were a little bit more family/community oriented... you think it is crazy to help family members? I am just not very materialistic and helping others makes me feel good. My parents paid for my education - what is wrong with helping children in my family get an education? 

You paint the image that you are some sort of hero because you pay a girl you occasional ''visit'' and then complain about it.

 

If you're a vagrant that sleeps around when you feel like it you will treated like one.

6 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

. My parents paid for my education - what is wrong with helping children in my family get an education? 

Nothing wrong. But now i feel that, no matter what you do for these people. It is never enough and they keep wanting more. And you will never be considered as a part of their family.

6 minutes ago, johnray said:

You paint the image that you are some sort of hero because you pay a girl you occasional ''visit'' and then complain about it.

 

If you're a vagrant that sleeps around when you feel like it you will treated like one.

Look at the other side. She can sleep at her home all day because of my money. She doesn't have to shout welcome to every foreigner who walks on front of the bar

48 minutes ago, lovethai123 said:

I am already fed up of my money going to raise kids who aren't mine. 

Who’s kids are they?

2 hours ago, lovethai123 said:

 I won't lie about it and I have no shame in admitting that I met her in a bar.

You are only the customer. A sex tourist. You really think she will like you more than mom? 

money not buy love.

 

 

1 hour ago, lovethai123 said:

How do I tell her I want to finish the relationship with her? Please suggest.

 Tell her you not pay her again. 

Ask her for money.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

My wife loved her mother so much she destroyed our marriage because of it. She also loved her sister, her nephews and her BIL much, much more than me, her husband. she loved every relative no matter how distant more than me. If they had had a dog she'd have loved that more than me too. I think she even loved our hamsters more than me.

How you meet together?

She doesn't "love" you, she is a prostitute and you are 1 of her paying customers.

1 hour ago, lovethai123 said:

Ok, thanks. Let me try. 

 

I am already fed up of my money going to raise kids who aren't mine. 

And to be brief with most thai boy offspring school is only a place to keep them until they go to prison

3 hours ago, lovethai123 said:

What I don't like here is that whatever money I give her, most of it is spent on her mom and her siblings upbringing and education. Her mom doesn't earn much.

So you give her money for 'her', but you want to control whom or what she spends it on!

 

Controlling much! Your insecurities are massively apparent.

 

Walk away from this girl. That way she can get on with her life without an additional kid ( you) to deal with. ????

38 minutes ago, lovethai123 said:

Nothing wrong. But now i feel that, no matter what you do for these people. It is never enough and they keep wanting more. And you will never be considered as a part of their family.

That because you are clearly not worthy of respect. You give some money and you expect them to bow down to you, don't you? Be honest, you expect it, don't you?

 

Go back into your cave. It's where you belong.

41 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Who’s kids are they?

Her mom

33 minutes ago, Yinn said:

You are only the customer. A sex tourist. You really think she will like you more than mom? 

money not buy love.

 

 

 Tell her you not pay her again. 

Ask her for money.

So yinn came to reply to my thread. I am honoured. 

 

I did more for her than her parents ever did and she accepts it. Money cannot buy love be but I have never seen a girl dating a broke man.  

 

I am man enough to work hard and provide food and shelter to her. I don't need ask my lady money. I am not thai a man who drinks , never works and drops his wife to meet new bf every night.

 

 

17 minutes ago, thequietman said:

So you give her money for 'her', but you want to control whom or what she spends it on!

 

Controlling much! Your insecurities are massively apparent.

 

Walk away from this girl. That way she can get on with her life without an additional kid ( you) to deal with. ????

He think he “give” it.

 

She think he “pay” it. 

 

Confused customer.

21 minutes ago, poohy said:

And to be brief with most thai boy offspring school is only a place to keep them until they go to prison

My girl has a son from her ex thai bf. That son calls me papa now. You guys keep saying things like this and makes me hard to finish relationship with her. 

 

I have some attachment to her son as well. I don't have a child if my own. I provide everything to her son from ex thai bf. Don't say things like this please. I am emotionally very weak. You just scared me. Sorry 

1 minute ago, lovethai123 said:

I have some attachment to her son as well. I don't have a child if my own. I provide everything to her son from ex thai bf. Don't say things like this please. I am emotionally very weak. You just scared me. Sorry 

This is a genuine question .................. are you retarded??

Just now, Yinn said:

He think he “give” it.

 

She think he “pay” it. 

 

Confused customer.

Upto u what u think. May be u don't like all this foreigner men and thai women love business but it's a reality yinn. 

 

U called me a sex tourist. But I guess in past 5 years , I hve spent more money in Thailand which an average thai would earn in all his life. So that's bringing money in your economy. You should be thankful to us dirty tourist who are taking one of your people out of the bars which your people run and providing the entire family food and clothing.

2 minutes ago, lovethai123 said:

Money cannot buy love be but I have never seen a girl dating a broke man.  

It happen a lot.

school kid, poor people have dates. For love. Natural attraction. 

 

You ask ask a question, I give you the solution.

 

Ask her for money. If she love you she will give it.