cyril sneer Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Tingtong2mut said: How come Iran and Italy are so hard hit. One country is spreading it on purpose in the name of Islam, the other one has a significantly older population to the rest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, GeorgeCross said: bats were a delicacy - poor people were not eating them!! anyways i heard the PC brigade was busy trying to get the Spanish Flu renamed - apparently it was messing with their anti-orange man agenda nothing better to do - as my mother would say Years ago had a rich Singaporean Chinese friend who said in the 70's she was taken by her parents to a restaurant in HK, and the expensive delicacy served up was elephant trunk! Edited March 21, 2020 by Orton Rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 54 minutes ago, cyril sneer said: One country is spreading it on purpose in the name of Islam, the other one has a significantly older population to the rest Might not be as daft as it sounds, the Quran says those who die by the plague become martyrs , can't be bothered to find the quote but it's not just blowing people up that gets them into heaven, drowning is another way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post talahtnut Posted March 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 hour ago, bkk6060 said: It will be difficult to do, especially here. And call me what you want. I will not be rude, but will make an attempt to be as far away from any Chinese for the rest of my life. It is means waiting for the next elevator, I will. They won't care, so what.. Man, I bet you got plenty of stuff made in China, probably even yer underpants, you cant get away from 'em mate. Confucius says, 'man with one chopstick go hungry'. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliss Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Tingtong2mut said: One thing I do know for sure. The meek shall inherit the earth may well and truly come to bare. The people who are going to suffer the most are the wealthy and in turn will have the most to lose. Those with nothing will carry on and survive as they always have. How do you know that for sure , do you have any links or facts . Just asking ... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Airalee said: I don’t whine about (or hate) Thailand. But if it bothers you so much that others do...why are you here? Perhaps you should search out a more positive environment. YOU may not do . But in terms of those who make comment there is a definite element tolerated. And often by people who for whatever reason have departed but insist on using the platform to reveal their personal grudges . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gweiloman Posted March 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2020 I have no issue to it being called Wuhan Flu or Chinese virus or whatever. What disgusts me is Trump’s intentional use of it as a derogatory term, in order to deflect any blame or responsibility of his totally inept handling of the crisis. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 OP... why do you term it the anti racist pc brigades? Is racism acceptable? I have difficulties with some of the habits of some cultures but which I have witnessed in many races. People of the same race who grow up to live in a different culture do not display same habits. It is not a matter of race. It is a matter of cultural norms. Is there one that is perfect? is it one that that is openly racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 hours ago, potless said: I dont know about Iran but Italy has thousands of Chinese working in textiles in northern Italy. Have a Google "Chinese factories in Italy" or something like that. The time scale fits the bill in relation to the Chinese new year with workers going home to China and then returning to Europe. I think you might have gotten your timeline wrong. Italy banned flights from China on Jan 31, long before the workers would have returned to Italy. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2020/03/12/italy-banned-flights-from-china-before-americait-didnt-work/#382605d4481b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted March 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2020 It was the CCP that endorsed the wildlife markets. Anything flying their way, nuclear warheads included, is fine. It's an organization that needs to be destroyed. If the common Chinese silently approve and don't fight them, they are complicit. It's simple as that. If they don't like it, they can go back home, eh? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoNiaw Posted March 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Orton Rd said: Pointing the finger at the source does not have to be hateful, facts are facts. This mess started in CHINA in WUHAN sourced from highly unhygienic markets and eating habits of the CHINESE, unless you believe in the mad conspiracy theories including the bio lab. How many countries in the world have dog restaurants, even though they deny it as they now laughingly deny it started with them and claim the virus was from the USA or Italy. Nothing to do with hate, just facts, here is another one - the CCP are liars. From what I understand, it probably didn't come from the market in Wuhan. That's where the first main cluster occurred and they think it originated elsewhere. But still from China anyway. And just because the Chinese lied, it doesn't excuse the incompetence and denial of the UK and US governments surely? And it also seems that Xi Jinping might have had (will await further news on this) direct phone calls to Johnson and Macron on 19 February and explained the measures that were effective against the virus, only for them to ignore his advice. China seem to have been what you would expect from them at the beginning, but when all is done and dusted may emerge with a bit more credit than some others for the latter stages. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted March 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, justin case said: look up ITALY corona virus : it came and started from 2 chinese tourists https://nextstrain.org/ncov CCP will have a hell of a job trying to Chinasplain how come the genetics point to their bat cave. I'm sure Xinhua and the assorted trolls will figure out something. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaviator Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, Orton Rd said: Years ago had a rich Singaporean Chinese friend who said in the 70's she was taken by her parents to a restaurant in HK, and the expensive delicacy served up was elephant trunk! 555 I used to eat elephant meet regularly when I was in Congo ... a bit like eating an old boot ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChouDoufu Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, cyril sneer said: One country is spreading it on purpose in the name of Islam, the other one has a significantly older population to the rest really? i'd like to read about that if you've got a link. i was under the impression these were just really super religious people who demanded to get into the sacred shrines, nothing about "spreading on purpose." we certainly don't claim that christian cult in south korea, where the leaders told their followers not to report symptoms, was spreading it intentionally in the name of christ. that's the kind of talk i'd expect from a certain health minister..... Edited March 21, 2020 by ChouDoufu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Airalee said: I don’t whine about (or hate) Thailand. But if it bothers you so much that others do...why are you here? Perhaps you should search out a more positive environment. Like what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airalee Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 11 minutes ago, papa al said: Like what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Yeah this pandemic situation has brought out the worst in people and governments worldwide. Right now I'm concerned about a possible racist backlash against farang (or foreigners in general) in Thailand, though so far, everything has been OK. I hear it's quite bad in Vietnam though...lots of foreigners are getting nasty comments directed their way and many hotels and businesses refuse to host/serve westerners. Thailand has had a couple of incidents but not to the extent of Vietnam. Now is not a good time to be a minority anywhere in the world, but at least in the west, businesses can't deny service based on race or ethnicity, while due to multiculturalism, there are large communities of people from different parts of the world. In countries like Thailand westerners are scattered loosely in a few areas but we don't have much of a support network. I wish ALL countries will eventually adopt multiculturalism for their own good...by force if necessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted March 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Airalee said: I assume that there are even more Chinese people (just due to their massive population) ranting and raving about the west on their Chinese forums. That's all good, let 'em rant, but why the hell are people from democratic countries doing any business with them? They should go full cold war, bar all trade, build a wall, throw away the key and check out every few years if they've managed to proceed to democracy yet. Western greed is to blame for the rise of the commies. West should never have agreed to use China's cheap slave labor. They had enough Mexicans and former East block countries nearby to avoid it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Airalee Posted March 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, DrTuner said: That's all good, let 'em rant, but why the hell are people from democratic countries doing any business with them? They should go full cold war, bar all trade, build a wall, throw away the key and check out every few years if they've managed to proceed to democracy yet. Western greed is to blame for the rise of the commies. West should never have agreed to use China's cheap slave labor. They had enough Mexicans and former East block countries nearby to avoid it. I don’t know what the solution is. Arguing with my Economics professors in the 80s about what I saw as the pitfalls to outsourcing labor/factories to China just got me a lower grade in the class. Myself...I vote with my wallet and try to buy as little slave made stuff as possible. That gets harder and harder as time goes by. At least my underwear is still 100% American made. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 hours ago, justin case said: look up ITALY corona virus : it came and started from 2 chinese tourists Although the genetic relationships among sampled viruses are quite clear, there is considerable uncertainty surrounding estimates of transmission dates and in reconstruction of geographic spread. Please be aware that specific inferred transmission patterns are only a hypothesis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marqus12 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, DrTuner said: Western greed is to blame for the rise of the commies. West should never have agreed to use China's cheap slave labor. They had enough Mexicans and former East block countries nearby to avoid it. Very racist. Empires come and go. It's time for you to spread manure, attach the plow to your own back ...and plow the field. New rulers need soy, wheat and corn. Edited March 21, 2020 by marqus12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 3 hours ago, ChouDoufu said: there is no need for trump to use terms like "china virus" or "wuflu" when we have the perfectly useful "covid 19" to use. trump is just being trump. ask sleepy joe or mini mike or crooked hillary, or gosh, any of the hundreds on this list. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_used_by_Donald_Trump it's kinda fun at campaign rallies i suppose, fires up the base and all. not sure now is the time though..... well he is trying to be more inclusive, so hes copying CNN and MSNBC, theu use the termuntil Trump did, then its no good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 5 hours ago, sirineou said: trump is trying to deflect attention from himself and the fact that only a few days was telling us not to worry and go about our lives normally, or the fact that he was warned by the intelligence community months ago and did nothing, and direct it towards China. and the moron followers of the moron leader are eating it all up. That man will get his, and yes he is doing his best to deflect. BUT, here's the bigger issue: We allowed our critical care capacity to be destroyed and are dependent upon China to give us critical care equipment. Most of our masks, our personal protection equipment, our basic medical equipment comes from China. Let the fear and loathing of China increase. It will be needed to convince countries to repatriate the critical care capacity. It is inexcusable that we have such a dependency upon China and India for our pharmaceuticals. It is criminal that our governments allowed our intellectual capital to be sold off, and our critical security apparatus to be contracted out. Now we are very much dependent upon China for help. People should be scared. Now they need to support rebuilding our critical care capacity. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potless Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gweiloman said: 6 hours ago, potless said: I dont know about Iran but Italy has thousands of Chinese working in textiles in northern Italy. Have a Google "Chinese factories in Italy" or something like that. The time scale fits the bill in relation to the Chinese new year with workers going home to China and then returning to Europe. I think you might have gotten your timeline wrong. Italy banned flights from China on Jan 31, long before the workers would have returned to Italy. Chinese new year fell on the 25th January. Some may have left and already returned before a ban came into effect. Shift patterns etc. Your point and link is noted thanks. The timeline would certainly fit other European countries. Edited March 21, 2020 by potless added something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 11 hours ago, sirineou said: trump is trying to deflect attention from himself and the fact that only a few days was telling us not to worry and go about our lives normally, or the fact that he was warned by the intelligence community months ago and did nothing, and direct it towards China. and the moron followers of the moron leader are eating it all up. Until maybe 10 days go he kept saying it's not real, it's a Chinese hoax, such ignorance, dangerous ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, talahtnut said: Man, I bet you got plenty of stuff made in China, probably even yer underpants, you cant get away from 'em mate. Confucius says, 'man with one chopstick go hungry'. I bought condoms made in China and they are way too small. I guess the girls are right:) Edited March 21, 2020 by bkk6060 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 7 hours ago, drbeach said: Right now I'm concerned about a possible racist backlash against farang That has been happening it seems for a while now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, scorecard said: Until maybe 10 days go he kept saying it's not real, it's a Chinese hoax, such ignorance, dangerous ignorance. where did he say it was a hoax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patongphil Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 12 hours ago, Mavideol said: can't figure out your point, what are you trying to say? and btw, did you ever order/eat Chinese food or did you call it something else What do you call a Chinese Restaurant in China? A Restaurant 5555555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roo860 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 59 minutes ago, bkk6060 said: I bought condoms made in China and they are way too small. I guess the girls are right:) You're not supposed to put them on your head, but then again! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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