ParkerN Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 hours ago, NanLaew said: You claim to be a misanthrope, so where's all this cultural anthropology coming from? Chicken and egg, friend. How do you think I got to be misanthrope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 5 hours ago, EricTh said: People here are getting paranoid over 2 deaths when other countries are reporting hundreds of deaths. Anyway, he is 70 years old and had TB so it's understandable that he won't survive. Thailand is still considered safe for now. Not sure about the future. Indonesia has reported 49 deaths, Malaysia 14 deaths. Philippines 33 deaths. EricTh, TB is survivable with medication. Unfortunately I have had it twice when I was younger, once at 35 and then again at 42. Job related picked up from people we had taken into custody and had to transport to the jail facility. Unbeknownst to my partner and myself we both came down with it. Had to take some heavy meds for awhile as well as stay away from my children, but it is survivable with the right treatment. Now add on Viral Pneumonia which is a component of the COVID-19, and it will and can shut down your breathing and you can possibly die because of the underlying medical condition. Just because you stub your big toe does not mean your going to die, but if you do it could be from psychogenic shock......so please learn and live, do not believe what you read. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elreeco Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Peterw42 said: You may be right, but what possible advantage would come from downplaying the figures, tourism is already shut down, the country is already in semi lockdown. I cant see what could be gained by not doing correct numbers. Face..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Chazar said: really??not mostly staying at home, theyre all in hospital? and many apparently have been there for a long time if you want to believe that..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLuce Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I just got this from the United States Embassy for current updates. According to the United States Embassy message: “The Travel Advisory does not constitute a “recall” of all U.S. citizens to the United States.” https://www.coronavirus.gov https://th.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/ https://travel.state.gov/ https://www.dhs.gov/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elreeco Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Canuck1966 said: I wonder if a Thai official has ever told the truth......EVER, even once? 'Nearly' is as close as you'll get...... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, JimLuce said: I just got this from the United States Embassy for current updates. According to the United States Embassy message: “The Travel Advisory does not constitute a “recall” of all U.S. citizens to the United States.” https://www.coronavirus.gov https://th.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/ https://travel.state.gov/ https://www.dhs.gov/ Why would they recall expats who want to be here in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 hours ago, glennb6 said: In nation of 70 million people, 2 have died attributed to WuFlu since January, and the first person who died had existing lung complications. 700+ infections, or maybe it's 7000 because you don't believe govt stats, or maybe it's 70,000 because you don't believe govt stats and lots of people who have WuFlu aren't or were not sick enough to go to hospital and officially get tested and affirmed. Even if you chooses to believe 70,000 that is 0.001 of the total pop and but 2 people have died. But govt, official doctors, leaders, and half the pop is crying the need to further shut down the country effectively applying martial law. Bankruptcies, loss of jobs, loss of incomes, and mass fear will most certainly drive the country into a bad depression and all the misery and deaths that come with it. All because 0.001 of the population is wildly "guessed" at having WuFlu, or if you believe the govt, then it's 0.00001 of 70,000,000 people, and 2 people died. The government has shot themselves in BOTH feet, and they are cocking the hammer and taking aim at their head. Sad that most people can't wake up. Same over the entire world. Earth population 7.7 billion. Cases worldwide 383,900. Deaths worldwide 16,586. Effect on the population, jobs and economy - Priceless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 Off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 hours ago, glennb6 said: glad you asked. Italy pop 60,000,000 average age of those who died from CV in Italy was 79.5 99% of those people who died who had one or more pre-existing conditions the avg life expectancy in Italy is 83.4 yrs sourced from; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says Unfortunately it is unhealthy old people at or over their life expectancy who died from WuFlu in Italy. Oh well, that’s ok then. Any thoughts on those who died, but might have been saved, had the health system not been overwhelmed? or if it had been one or both of your parents in one of those hospitals? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post humbug Posted March 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said: Your using the racist and juvenile term "WuFlu" rather than the universally accepted medical term COVID19 erases all of your credibility as a human being. I would trust a 5 year old's math before I would trust yours. Your fearmongering is despicable. Would you do us all a favor and self quarantine from any further posts here? They are self serving and do no one else any good. Correction, I would not say self serving, I would say speaking of shooting yourself in the foot . . . Wuhan virus comes from Wuhan, China commonly known as WuFlu, CCP virus, China virus and XIFlu, repeating centuries of viruses being named after places; Ebola virus= named after the river in Africa Nipah virus= named after the area in India Mers virus= named after the Middle East but originated in China Spanish flu, SARS just more example of viruses named after places, so yes it’s the WuFlu, unless you are a pro-bejing troll, or Han Chinese nationalist, along with the fake western liberals who want to repeat CCP China propaganda, and call it covid19, so people forget it came from CHINA 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifmu Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: Three Covid-19 patients die while 106 new cases confirmed By THE NATION Three Covid-19 patients died on Monday while 106 new cases were confirmed, taking Thailand's total cases past 800, Dr Taweesin Visanuyothin, spokesman for the Public Health Ministry, said on Tuesday (March 24). The cases over a 24-hour period can be divided into three groups. The first group of 25 are connected to cluster cases -- five people had attended a boxing event in a stadium, six had been to entertainment venues, two had attended religious ceremonies and 12 had had close contact with others previously confirmed as infected. The second group comprised 34 people of whom 20 had just returned from overseas (8 Thais and 12 foreigners), 10 were working in crowded areas or close to foreigners, and four are medical staff in Yala, Phuket, Buri Ram, and Nakhon Pathom provinces. Taweesin added that all the medical personnel got infected because patients lied or did not reveal their travel history. The last group of 47 are being investigated on the source of the infection. Meanwhile, five people have fully recovered and returned home. The total number of deaths from Covid-19 increased to four, three fatalities being reported on Tuesday. A 70-year-old male patient who also carried tuberculosis(the first critical symptom patient in Thailand), died on Monday. Another 79-year-old man, whose infection was related to a boxing stadium cluster, carried multiple chronic diseases and succumbed, while a 45-year-old man also suffered from diabetes and obesity. As of March 24, the total number of confirmed cases in the country stands at 827 -- 766 are under treatment, 57 have recovered and been discharged, and there have been four deaths. Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30384724 -- © Copyright The Nation Thailand 2020-03-24 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates there is a fourth group ........... those that were never tested and never added to the list and those who died in that group 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 hours ago, Peterw42 said: I cant see what could be gained by not doing correct numbers. Coming up smelling of roses! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 6 hours ago, ParkerN said: Face - believing that the actions they are taking equate to a modern educated, experienced government. Which it isn't, or anything like it. The very reason the third world remains The Third World! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 hours ago, glennb6 said: In nation of 70 million people, 2 have died attributed to WuFlu since January, and the first person who died had existing lung complications. 700+ infections, or maybe it's 7000 because you don't believe govt stats, or maybe it's 70,000 because you don't believe govt stats and lots of people who have WuFlu aren't or were not sick enough to go to hospital and officially get tested and affirmed. Even if you chooses to believe 70,000 that is 0.001 of the total pop and but 2 people have died. But govt, official doctors, leaders, and half the pop is crying the need to further shut down the country effectively applying martial law. Bankruptcies, loss of jobs, loss of incomes, and mass fear will most certainly drive the country into a bad depression and all the misery and deaths that come with it. All because 0.001 of the population is wildly "guessed" at having WuFlu, or if you believe the govt, then it's 0.00001 of 70,000,000 people, and 2 people died. The government has shot themselves in BOTH feet, and they are cocking the hammer and taking aim at their head. Sad that most people can't wake up. You haven’t really grasped the concept of ‘exponential increase' have you,nor noticed how it manifested itself in Italy and other European countries? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les1 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I understand that there is confusing information out there about covid19 cases but I have some points on this. 1. How many foreigners know of other foreigners who are corona virus positive? 2. How many know of a death suspected of being related to covid19? 3. Those of you married or living with Thai don't you think that if they suspect a related death it would fly around by social media so quickly the whole of Thailand would know. 4. I went to my local pharmacy in Chiang Mai on Saturday & during my purchase I was telling him that we were undecided whether we stay or return UK. He seemed a bit bemused when my reason for leaving was that I didn't think that we had the full information here in Thailand. He didn't say anything but the look on his face was as if to say "Why Not". Just a few points to consider if we are accusing the agencies for false information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glennb6 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 48 minutes ago, JimLuce said: I just got this from the United States Embassy for current updates. According to the United States Embassy message: “The Travel Advisory does not constitute a “recall” of all U.S. citizens to the United States.” https://www.coronavirus.gov https://th.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/ https://travel.state.gov/ https://www.dhs.gov/ well isn't that nice to know we are not chattel property that can be 'recalled' at the whim of a bureaucrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jonathan Swift said: If anyone gets sick of wading through the waist deep mud of misinformation in this topic, and hearing the ignorant fearmongering blowhards' proclamations of doom, here is the latest from the WHO, no surprise to see it predicted that we will get through this and come out basically OK, just as we have with all of the other "plagues" some of which were a lot worse - polio, H1N1, swine flu, sars, mers, etc. https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-ever-away-heres-one-094824995.html I'm not sure I take much solace from his comments, including the following: Quote When you look around the world in Europe, North America, the Middle East, you can see that we’re really at the period of exponential growth, we’re still seeing the virus going up very, very rapidly, even in hard hit places like Italy, for example. These countries still have months of this challenge in front of them. And meanwhile, the WHO director general has popped up again with the following: Quote Coronavirus pandemic is accelerating as cases eclipse 350,000, WHO says The coronavirus pandemic that’s spread to nearly every country in the world is picking up pace, the World Health Organization said Monday, as global cases eclipsed 350,000 and deaths soared past 15,000. “The pandemic is accelerating,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said at a press briefing from the organization’s Geneva headquarters. “It took 67 days from the first reported case to reach 100,000 cases, 11 days for second 100,000 cases, and just four days for the third 100,000 cases.” https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/coronavirus-pandemic-is-accelerating-as-cases-eclipse-350000-who-says.html That's a trendline thats' not good news for anyone in those regions. Edited March 24, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diddl Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 The three deaths were patients who had other health complications, including a 70-year-old man who had tuberculosis, a 45-year-old man who had diabetes and a 79-year-old man who had health problems, Taweesin Wisanuyothin, a Public Health Ministry spokesman, said. Really? They died of the Coronavirus? I think not! They died of their diseases and complications thereof. This is all about more and more and more additions to the statistics so that the authorities that should-not-be have an excuse to crush us all into the ground with totalitarian control. This is happening all over the world and if you bother to look into who, how, and when of statistics, you will find that the majority were people with existing health problems as well as the elderly. - look into the Italian statistics for instance because they have been more honest on the subject. Can you not understand where all this is going? There are official and de-classified documents that speak about the intentions of all these carry-ons. Do you not remember nine-eleven and all the lies that led to people's freedom being taken away from them and how more and more laws were passed to crush us all that little bit more? The cliff edge is close so jump off if you want to believe all the nonsense. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timewilltell Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Peterw42 said: You may be right, but what possible advantage would come from downplaying the figures, tourism is already shut down, the country is already in semi lockdown. I cant see what could be gained by not doing correct numbers. Face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 A troll post getting into dangerous territory has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarth Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 hours ago, colinneil said: So the health ministry said a second person has die from the virus. Anybody who believes its only 2 is deluding themselves. Who is the health minister..................... Anutin, he could not even lie straight in bed. hi how you? you spelt his name wrong it is spelt Anus he must have had an English father lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 hours ago, glennb6 said: In nation of 70 million people, 2 have died attributed to WuFlu since January, and the first person who died had existing lung complications. 700+ infections, or maybe it's 7000 because you don't believe govt stats, or maybe it's 70,000 because you don't believe govt stats and lots of people who have WuFlu aren't or were not sick enough to go to hospital and officially get tested and affirmed. Even if you chooses to believe 70,000 that is 0.001 of the total pop and but 2 people have died. But govt, official doctors, leaders, and half the pop is crying the need to further shut down the country effectively applying martial law. Bankruptcies, loss of jobs, loss of incomes, and mass fear will most certainly drive the country into a bad depression and all the misery and deaths that come with it. All because 0.001 of the population is wildly "guessed" at having WuFlu, or if you believe the govt, then it's 0.00001 of 70,000,000 people, and 2 people died. The government has shot themselves in BOTH feet, and they are cocking the hammer and taking aim at their head. Sad that most people can't wake up. And we're still doing sixty a day on the roads from Monday to Thursday and not counting the deaths from Friday over the weekend or what crokes not on the road....... Hasn't someone twigged on yet how stupidly hysterical this is getting ?......... Malaria, Dengue, TB, Aids, cancer ????....... This Corona cra& isn't on the first rung of the ladder of nastiness....... And everyone's kacking themselves...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 7 hours ago, sanuk711 said: Its getting bad now................. The Germans have started to put their towels on hospital beds................................ Best one so far........... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek B Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Canuck1966 said: WOW! Coronavirus can survive on a surface for 17 days, says the CDC after traces were found in cabins on infected cruise ship Diamond Princess more than two weeks after passengers left Now that is a game changer if correct............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0815 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 8 hours ago, glennb6 said: In nation of 70 million people, 2 have died attributed to WuFlu since January, and the first person who died had existing lung complications. 700+ infections, or maybe it's 7000 because you don't believe govt stats, or maybe it's 70,000 because you don't believe govt stats and lots of people who have WuFlu aren't or were not sick enough to go to hospital and officially get tested and affirmed. Even if you chooses to believe 70,000 that is 0.001 of the total pop and but 2 people have died. But govt, official doctors, leaders, and half the pop is crying the need to further shut down the country effectively applying martial law. Bankruptcies, loss of jobs, loss of incomes, and mass fear will most certainly drive the country into a bad depression and all the misery and deaths that come with it. All because 0.001 of the population is wildly "guessed" at having WuFlu, or if you believe the govt, then it's 0.00001 of 70,000,000 people, and 2 people died. The government has shot themselves in BOTH feet, and they are cocking the hammer and taking aim at their head. Sad that most people can't wake up. You didn't get the real things yet, mate? What a lot of BS are you posting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 In other news, based on averages there has probably been 3500+ traffic fatalities on the roads. Time to shut down driving and stay at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayaout Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, connda said: In other news, based on averages there has probably been 3500+ traffic fatalities on the roads. Time to shut down driving and stay at home. To put this in perspective it's only 3500 on a 69,000,000 population. Roads are perfectly safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackGats Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I am ok with the gvt downplaying the figures. I am more worried about panic, infrastructure collapse, social breakdown, etc. than I am about coming down with the virus. If broadcasting only 4 deaths a day though there might be 400 can keep hotels and grocery stores open and prevent Thai Society from running amok I'm ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry343 Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 9 hours ago, madmitch said: Nothing new there! The same is happening in Australia as incompetent break the self-quarantine set down by their Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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