Thailand reports 106 new coronavirus cases and 3 deaths

[mfd101]

12 minutes ago, ParkerN said:

Truth is not valued in Thai society, only what is convenient for the purposes of the moment is important, and any moral messages are lost very quickly. It's possible, perhaps even probable, that there are some people in Thailand (including in the government) who value truth for its own sake, but in my view, it's a very small percentage people who are smart enough to the stand above the prevailing culture. Thai culture, apart from not valuing truth, is extremely intolerant of people who do no people who do not comply with the Borg, and who wish to follow their conscience. Thai culture is a group game, not an individual game, and people that do not comply are quickly ostracised or otherwise punished for the impertinence (or, more accurately the impudence thinking they're better than other Thais). Like forest animals in a forest clearing, they were always equate what is culturally familiar, with what is safe.

Yes, these are characteristics of a not-yet-modern society with a small & politically weak bourgeoisie. As the latter grows in numbers & power, and the expectation of planning, law & clarity that go with it, so Thai culture will change.

 

But it's a 50-year project and hardly begun. Meantime the feudals, plutocrats & generals do whatever they want.

[cyril sneer]

3 now..

[dinsdale]

3 today. Now 4.

[PerkinsCuthbert]

2 hours ago, colinneil said:

So the health ministry said a second person has die from the virus.

Anybody who believes its only 2 is deluding themselves.

Who is the health minister..................... Anutin, he could not even lie straight in bed.

If you think he tells whoppers, how's this for a double with cheese: https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/myanmar-in-denial-with-zero-covid-19-case-claim/

 

[transam]

1 hour ago, tlandtday said:

Don't your recall "everything is under control", "we have cured the patients", "the patients have been released in full health"

They can't even keep hospital toilets clean here, so how can they deal with serious stuff, it's a mystery to me.....????

[wasabi]

The death number is the only number I think has a degree of accuracy because it is the hardest to hide. In my opinion this low number is good news. It's possible the virus while just as contagious in Thailand may be less virulent for whatever reason.

[DLock]

2 hours ago, EricTh said:

People here are getting paranoid over 2 deaths when other countries are reporting hundreds of deaths.

 

Anyway, he is 70 years old and had TB so it's understandable that he won't survive.

 

Thailand is still considered safe for now. Not sure about the future.

 

Indonesia has reported 49 deaths, Malaysia 14 deaths. Philippines 33 deaths.

 

You do understand that Italy, Iran, South Korea, Spain and even China had 2 deaths at one point?

 

Thailand has the benefit of how that played out, and they need to do everything possible to make sure that doesn't happen here.

 

Paranoid. Not even close. Complacent...more likely.

[unsubscribe]

Anyone currently in Thailand care to weigh in on these headlines of Thailand blaming Caucasians?

Is there a sense that your safety might be in jeopardy or do most Thais ignore this narrative?

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thailand-increasingly-blaming-caucasians-for-coronavirus-crisis

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[Mavideol]

2 hours ago, colinneil said:

OK i agree with you, why downplay the numbers, but the government keeps prattling on about plenty of masks, yet nobody can find any.

So in my opinion they are deliberately hiding the truth.

and they created an APP/Website that showed each provinces had the infected people, unfortunately the Website stopped working, maybe it overloaded with too many cases 555................I  can't access it

 

https://covidtracker.5lab.co/?fbclid=IwAR1bAH4qDAZtWkdh2MVwAiFmow9lAtRFg78vPSZKr76__ezADDlBNwYHTyk

CovidTracker กำลังปิดปรับปรุงชั่วคราว
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[Tingnongnoi]

4 minutes ago, unsubscribe said:

Anyone currently in Thailand care to weigh in on these headlines of Thailand blaming Caucasians?

Is there a sense that your safety might be in jeopardy or do most Thais ignore this narrative?

 

 

 

I would say from personal experience most ignore, the title of that article is classic clickbait. There is a strong narrative built on here though, but in the real world I havent noticed where I am.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, unsubscribe said:

Anyone currently in Thailand care to weigh in on these headlines of Thailand blaming Caucasians?

Is there a sense that your safety might be in jeopardy or do most Thais ignore this narrative?

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thailand-increasingly-blaming-caucasians-for-coronavirus-crisis

Caucasians did not swim here or get turned away at entry, those who control should have faced up to the facts in front of them.....

No passing the buck, we all knew the facts.... 

[Timwin]

Hot&humid&UV help a lot to lower the R0. Otherwise Thailand would have been much worse than northern Italy many weeks ago. 

[Tayaout]

6 minutes ago, unsubscribe said:

Anyone currently in Thailand care to weigh in on these headlines of Thailand blaming Caucasians?

Is there a sense that your safety might be in jeopardy or do most Thais ignore this narrative?

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/thailand-increasingly-blaming-caucasians-for-coronavirus-crisis

I think it's sensationalism with a pinch of distorted truth blended with Chinese propaganda. In my part of Thailand the thai  are as sympathetic as usual. 

[Canuck1966]

2 hours ago, glennb6 said:

glad you asked. Italy pop 60,000,000

average age of those who died from CV in Italy was 79.5

99% of those people who died who had one or more pre-existing conditions

the avg life expectancy in Italy is 83.4 yrs

 

sourced from;

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-virus-had-other-illness-italy-says

 

Unfortunately it is unhealthy old people at or over their life expectancy who died from WuFlu in Italy.

How many times do people need to be told.

It's not about the number of deaths or the ages of deaths.

It's about a virus that leaves a lot of people requiring critical care and then significant periods of time in hospital recovering.

It's about swamping health care systems and making a doctor choose which lives are more worthy, as there are not enough ventilators

More than 30 doctors have died in Italy after contracting the virus from patients!

What do you think about that?

All that experience and know how gone in just one week. 

 

This preexisting condition thing is another load of BS. 

Almost everybody over 40 has some kind of pre-existing condition that is not life threatening on it's own.

Type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure are easily treatable for long periods of time.

It's the virus that's killing most people not the pre existing conditions

 

 

[Chazar]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

while 766 are still being treated in hospitals.

really??not mostly  staying at  home, theyre  all in hospital?

[dinsdale]

Funny how they are pushing the underlying heath issues. I wonder in the total world population what percentage of people have underlying heath issues. I would think the percentage would be quite high. Then you could break it down a bit. 20-40 yrs, 40-50, etc. One would have to think that the majority of deaths, being that they are mostly but not exclusively older people, will have one or more underlying health problems. So! Is it going to be here that every person who dies from the CCP virus the underlying health issues will be stated in some bizaar blame shifting game. Thier death is due to, exacerbated or not by underlying health issues, contracting CCPsarscovid2.

[Guderian]

Look on the bright side, the number of new cases isn't increasing by 50% every day like in some countries. In fact, the numbers have been decreasing now for two days in a row. In Italy the same thing has just happened and it's being hailed as a possible turning point there. I know the official Thai numbers are dodgy, but what else do we have to go on? Guesswork and gossip are even worse than dodgy official statistics. 

[Tingnongnoi]

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Funny how they are pushing the underlying heath issues. I wonder in the total world population what percentage of people have underlying heath issues. I would think the percentage would be quite high. Then you could break it down a bit. 20-40 yrs, 40-50, etc. One would have to think that the majority of deaths, being that they are mostly but not exclusively older people, will have one or more underlying health problems. So! Is it going to be here that every person who dies from the CCP virus the underlying health issues will be stated in some bizaar blame shifting game. Thier death is due to, exacerbated or not by underlying health issues, contracting CCPsarscovid2.

Underlying health issues have been major statistics all over the world since the outset of the virus, why is it only here that you see a bizarre blame shifting game?

[diks]

2 hours ago, PingRoundTheWorld said:

Might be even older than that (81). An eye opening read tell you all you need to know about Italy and why what happened there will NOT happen in Thailand no matter what: https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

 

The panic needs to stop. Just ride it out until there's herd immunity - that's the only real option.

A very interesting read indeed. 

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, Tingnongnoi said:

Underlying health issues have been major statistics all over the world since the outset of the virus, why is it only here that you see a bizarre blame shifting game?

When I watch reports from, the USA, Britain, Australia etc they don't mention underlying health issues. Just death by coronavirus. Do you think Italy has said what the underlying heath issues of each of the 6077 covid19 deaths was? It may be statistically important and prudent to mention that diabeties and lung disease will put you at higher risk of being critical or dying but it is not necessary or newsworthy to tag it on to everyone who dies from this. Just my opinion.

[Grumpy John]

3 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

but how many deaths from viral pneumonia?

At last....the right question is asked!

[Mr Smithy]

Whilst the authorities are attempting to discourage unnecessary travel AIR ASIA has launched a cheap domestic fare promotion from Bangkok to a variety of Thai tourist destinations.

[4MyEgo]

2 hours ago, EricTh said:

People here are getting paranoid over 2 deaths when other countries are reporting hundreds of deaths.

 

Anyway, he is 70 years old and had TB so it's understandable that he won't survive.

 

Thailand is still considered safe for now. Not sure about the future.

 

Indonesia has reported 49 deaths, Malaysia 14 deaths. Philippines 33 deaths.

If you believe for one minute that Thailand only has two deaths, you are sadly mistaken, they are not testing people for it, and if they have and they come up with a positive, it is quashed quickly and they add them to the viral pneumonia stats, for how much longer I don't know because I am sure this graph would be through the roof by now.

 

I am saying this because we had a guy in our village who was tested positive and as soon as the top brass got wind of it, it was all over the village that a 2nd test was carried out and he was negative, his family is under house quarantine and he was taken away, now why was he taken away is he tested negative and why did the top brass waste their time on him if he wasn't positive, also heard from good sources two people died in a nearby hospital, bodies removed by men in those white gowns, e.g. Thai's usually collect the bodies of their deceased.

 

I don't believe a word this government is saying, the only reason the numbers are coming out now, because they know that the numbers are bursting at the seams.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, colinneil said:

So the health ministry said a second person has die from the virus.

Anybody who believes its only 2 is deluding themselves.

Who is the health minister..................... Anutin, he could not even lie straight in bed.

 

The article says THREE new fatalities among confirmed COVID cases.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

3 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

You may be right, but what possible advantage would come from downplaying the figures, tourism is already shut down, the country is already in semi lockdown. I cant see what could be gained by not doing correct numbers.

 

It's what they do... always. It's ingrained.

 

[legend49]

3 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

You may be right, but what possible advantage would come from downplaying the figures, tourism is already shut down, the country is already in semi lockdown. I cant see what could be gained by not doing correct numbers.

loss of face!

[glennb6]

25 minutes ago, Grumpy John said:

At last....the right question is asked!

A few minutes of googling, all I could find was worldlifeexpectancy.com  click Influenza and Pneumonia and the latest data shows 60,321 deaths in the year 2017, 12% of total deaths. FYI, coronary heart disease is 63,000, lung disease is 22,800, TB 8,346.  source is WHO.

 

Unfortunately I couldn't find numbers later than 2017 but so as far as X number of addition WuFlu cases possibly being hidden as viral pneumonia, maybe govt is fudging some numbers but they've got a long way to go from 4 to reach 60,000+

[IamNoone88]

Taweesin added that all the medical personnel got infected because patients lied or did not reveal their travel history..... I wonder if the frontline staff were adequately protected as they should be?

[Canuck1966]

State of emergency incoming !

[transam]

1 minute ago, IamNoone88 said:

Taweesin added that all the medical personnel got infected because patients lied or did not reveal their travel history..... I wonder if the frontline staff were adequately protected as they should be?

Against lying....?  ????