WHO myth busting web site.

[Moonlover]

I came across this useful WHO web site which exposes a few myths that are going around. Sadly, including my own theory regarding climate. ????

 

Mods might like to consider pinning this page for reference.

 

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/myth-busters

 

Edited March 30, 2020 by Moonlover

[richard_smith237]

Thanks for posting... its Good information, especially for dumb people who lack common sense and believe gossip. 

 

 

 

 

 

[NCC1701A]

might try to use common sense and wear a mask. the first thing the WHO said not to do.

 

 

 

Edited March 30, 2020 by NCC1701A

[NCC1701A]

https://qz.com/1820422/coronavirus-why-wont-who-use-the-name-sars-cov-2/

 

why do they call in Covid19 and not its real name SARS-CoV-2?

 

Edited March 30, 2020 by NCC1701A

[richard_smith237]

21 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

https://qz.com/1820422/coronavirus-why-wont-who-use-the-name-sars-cov-2/

 

why do they call in Covid19 and not its real name SARS-CoV-2?

 

 

Covid-19 is the respiratory disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 (Virus) - but the WHO seem to be dumbing down their information, as if they think people are incapable of recognising the difference. 

 

Sometimes highly intelligent people suffer when trying to communicate to those of lesser intelligence (i.e. WHO scientists to the masses). In the same manner they have fallen foul of providing flawed advice with ‘mask wear’..... 

Edited March 30, 2020 by richard_smith237

[NCC1701A]

40 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Covid-19 is the respiratory disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 (Virus) - but the WHO seem to be dumbing down their information, as if they think people are incapable of recognising the difference. 

 

Sometimes highly intelligent people suffer when trying to communicate to those of lesser intelligence (i.e. WHO scientists to the masses). In the same manner they have fallen foul of providing flawed advice with ‘mask wear’..... 

this is not the answer to the question.

 

Edited March 30, 2020 by NCC1701A

[Maestro]

5 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

https://qz.com/1820422/coronavirus-why-wont-who-use-the-name-sars-cov-2/

 

why do they call in Covid19 and not its real name SARS-CoV-2?

 

 

Your question: "why do they call in [sic] Covid19 [sic] and not its real name SARS-CoV-2?"

 

My assumptions: 

1. With "they" you mean the World Heath Organisation (WHO) mentioned in the title and the body of the news article to which you linked.
2. With "in" you mean "it", and judging from the context with "it" you mean SARS-CoV-2
3. With "Covid19" you mean "Covid-19"
4. Your question is a reference to this part of the news article":
   But despite the virus having a full name, the WHO almost never refers to it as SARS-CoV-2. Instead, it uses “the virus responsible for Covid-19” and “Covid-19 virus.”

My guess:

The WHO is dumbing down its language to what they assume to be the lower intellectual level of their readers and listeners than the level of Ryan et al, as is explained in the last paragraph of the article:

Quote

 

The WHO writes on its website that it steers clear of SARS-CoV-2 because “using the name SARS can have unintended consequences in terms of creating unnecessary fear for some populations, especially in Asia which was worst affected by the SARS outbreak in 2003.” At a press briefing on Feb. 13 (pdf), WHO executive director Michael Ryan noted that SARS-CoV-2 is a technical term for virologists in labs, while Covid-19 is a term for the average person. “We’re trying to relate the virus to the world, the experience that people have with the virus… so I don’t think there’s any inconsistency,” he said.

 

 

Incidentally, contrary to what you seem to imply, the news article does not say that the WHO uses Covid-19 to refer to SARS-CoV-2. This is what the article says:

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But despite the virus having a full name, the WHO almost never refers to it as SARS-CoV-2. Instead, it uses “the virus responsible for Covid-19” and “Covid-19 virus.”

 

That said, “the virus responsible for Covid-19” and “Covid-19 virus" are indubitably also incorrect terms for SARS-CoV-2

 

Conclusion:

Your – incorrectly formulated –  question in your post is answered by the article to which you linked, which begs the question why you posted your question on this forum to begin with.

 

[Maestro]

Removed some off-topic posts.

[Chazar]

8 hours ago, Moonlover said:

I came across this useful WHO web site

Then  pin this  one as  well but that goes  against a  Thai profs  advice

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

[Moonlover]

2 hours ago, Chazar said:

Then  pin this  one as  well but that goes  against a  Thai profs  advice

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

Yes I agree. I will only wear a mask where it is mandated. For me that only means Big C. There are only 3 items that I need to visit that store for and I'm well stocked on all 3 right now.

 

Most of the useless rags that I've seen on peoples faces a joke anyway.

Edited March 31, 2020 by Moonlover

[Kaopad999]

LOL the same organization that says wearing masks don't help... ????

This Korean leading Covid-19 expert seems to think otherwise. And coming from a country that has a lot less cases than the west. So, I think i know who I will be listening to...
 

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by Kaopad999

[Proboscis]

18 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

might try to use common sense and wear a mask. the first thing the WHO said not to do.

 

 

 

And do you ever ask why? The reason is two-fold. While a mask will help to reduce the spray of virus laden croplets if you sneeze or cough, it does not help to significantly reduce the transmission because most masks are not designed to do that and people can contaminate the mask when putting it on or off.

 

In addition, as is clear from reputable news sources from developed countries, if everyone gets a mask, there will be none for the folks who should get them, namely medical staff. And remember, this is not the medical staff being selfish - they wear a mask to ensure you don't get their infection. So next time you try to impugn what the WHO are saying, remember that they are in possession of far more data and understanding than you are.

[chang1]

Was it written by Anutin for farangs? As I see washing hands mentioned a couple of times. 

[brain150]

Not a myth but real science !

 

The New England Journal of Medicine

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387

This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.

[mfd101]

The mortality rate is deaths/total infected.

 

Given that most people recover from the disease, but recovery takes up to 2 or 3 weeks, then - as new infections start to flatten out because of prevention measures - recoveries will keep on increasing and eventually far outrun infections. Thus the 'fatality rate' as measured today is mostly just a statistical artifact of time: early on you have many infections & few recoveries. Mostly now the fatality rate will improve steadily, whatever further we do

Edited March 31, 2020 by mfd101

[DeeMak9]

2 hours ago, Kaopad999 said:

LOL the same organization that says wearing masks don't help... ????

This Korean leading Covid-19 expert seems to think otherwise. And coming from a country that has a lot less cases than the west. So, I think i know who I will be listening to...
 

 

For everyone who doesn't want to see the whole interview skip to 15:00 min for the mask part.

 

 

Who the hell is still listening to the WHO after numerous of misinformation since the beginning of this outbreak.

 

A certain country has a certain incentive to spread misinformation and let this spread in the west. Guess who's controlling the WHO. And before anyone says "oh pretty please, you stop it with your conspiracy theories, you're just an online nobody" I invite you to have an unbiased research yourself first. The last pandemic was only a 100 years ago. The last world war less than 80. What makes you think this isn't going to happen again?

 

Never forget:

WHO
Jan 5 - No evidence for h2h discovered
No travel advisories recommended to China
Jan 12 - No clear evidence for h2h
Jan 14 - Limited h2h > Maybe limited h2h > No evidence of h2h
Jan 15 - Maybe limited h2h
Jan 17 - Does not recommend quarantine
Jan 19 - No clear evidence of h2h
Jan 21 - Maybe h2h
Jan 23 - No evidence of h2h outside China
Jan 27 - Raise alert level (slightly)
Jan 28 - China will stay in control
Jan 30 - Till now no deaths in China, for which China deserves our gratitude and respect. China's transparency is protecting the world
Feb 3 - There is no need to restrict travel in order to slow the spread
------ nothing until China got control over this and stocks tops were sold ------
Mar 12 - This is a pandemic
"The WHO has been full response mode. We have called countries to take urgent and aggressive action." ... "Deeply concerned by the world leaders inaction"

Until today they are still advising no mask if not sick, with a sickness where you really don't know that you're sick, for weeks. Hiding behind the weak argument it gives a false sense of security. The truth is, when 2 people wear a mask, the chance of spreading from this one person to the other is immensely reduced. Even if these two masks are homemade cloth ones. Then R0 will be even less than seasonal flu.

Edited March 31, 2020 by DeeMak9

[apetryxx]

Problem is with WHO is that it has become a mouthpiece for the Chicoms and it’s difficult to believe what they say anymore. Current head of the organization, Dr. Tedros Ghebreyesus, is a toady for Xi Jing Ping and won’t even allow Taiwan so much as observer status. It’s criminal and a once principaled organization has descended into a political monster. Really sad to see and this creep is in a big part responsible.

[Snackbar]

Wearing a mask on a motorbike is in vogue, unfortunately wearing a motorcycle safety helmet isn’t so fashionable.

 

Anyone noticed the mask of choice is either plain black or multicoloured. 
 

Love a trend don’t they. 

[phkauf]

I would sooner take advice from that moron Anutin than the WHO. They have been wrong, behind the curve and political during this whole mess. Just watch the HKTV interview with a Canadian WHO official and see how he reacted when asked a legitimate question about Taiwan. The whole organization is now corrupted by politics and utterly untrustworthy at this point in time.

[AgMech Cowboy]

There are some good basic statements made, but I will never believe WHO. They're nothing but 'international' bureaucrats. Look back and see how they parroted China in Dec/Jan and continue to applaud China and their handling of the virus.

[Iron Tongue]

On 3/30/2020 at 6:39 AM, NCC1701A said:

https://qz.com/1820422/coronavirus-why-wont-who-use-the-name-sars-cov-2/

 

why do they call in Covid19 and not its real name SARS-CoV-2?

 

Because SARS-CoV-2 is directly attributed to China from bats and pangolins, while covid-19 is more vague.  It is the WHO afterall.  

[partington]

59 minutes ago, Iron Tongue said:

Because SARS-CoV-2 is directly attributed to China from bats and pangolins, while covid-19 is more vague.  It is the WHO afterall.  

No. Because SARS-CoV-2 is the name of the virus that causes the disease, and Covid- 19 is the name of the disease ( Corona Virus Disease -2019)

 

In exactly the same way HIV was the name of the virus, and AIDS was the name of the disease it caused.

[blazes]

 

I see one myth not mentioned is the myth that WHO gives sensible travelling advice.

[teatree]

Good example of how much influence China has on the WHO.

[britanicus]

He just pretended he did not hear, then refused to answer anything to do with Taiwan, CCP boot licking low life.

Edited April 1, 2020 by britanicus

[blazes]

14 minutes ago, teatree said:

Good example of how much influence China has on the WHO.

 

 

God, what a slimy snake of a fellow.  Who is paying his wages (or threatening not to)?

[Nyezhov]

9 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

There are some good basic statements made, but I will never believe WHO. They're nothing but 'international' bureaucrats. Look back and see how they parroted China in Dec/Jan and continue to applaud China and their handling of the virus.

 

6 hours ago, Iron Tongue said:

Because SARS-CoV-2 is directly attributed to China from bats and pangolins, while covid-19 is more vague.  It is the WHO afterall.

Ido not trust, or respect, any of the UNs beauracratic instituitions, which seem to be sinecures for folks who couldnt fuction as the Mayor of a small town in Iowa, and a means for the anti-west to push agendas.

 

In light of the clear deference of the WHO to China, I find them to lack credibility.

[5633572526]

On 3/30/2020 at 8:39 PM, NCC1701A said:

https://qz.com/1820422/coronavirus-why-wont-who-use-the-name-sars-cov-2/

 

why do they call in Covid19 and not its real name SARS-CoV-2?

 

I would assume to avoid confusion of the sars epidemic with this pandemic. The scientific name and the common name are often different for that reason 

[FarFlungFalang]

On 3/30/2020 at 8:12 PM, Moonlover said:

Sadly, including my own theory regarding climate. ????

 

If you need further confirmation go to the site linked below and count how many cold countries trail behind Brazil (on the equator) on the list.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[Moonlover]

40 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

If you need further confirmation go to the site linked below and count how many cold countries trail behind Brazil (on the equator) on the list.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

I've been convinced for quite some time that the climate here in Thailand is working in our favour and I'm still convinced, despite WHO's apparent skepticism.

 

I've also been studying this web site and, to me, it's just about irrefutable.

 

We will prevail!