With 2020 race all but halted over coronavirus, Biden quietly widens lead over Trump - Reuters/Ipsos poll

[candide]

2 hours ago, connda said:

Every main-stream poll between now and November will show Biden leading Trump.  We've seen this before in 2016. Main steam information source are beyond unreliable. We'll know the night after to polls close, if there is an election.  November will tell.

Btw, I've no dog in this fight.  Two sides of the same coin.  I could care less about either.

Does that include Fox News?

Saturday, March 28

Race/Topic   (Click to Sort)	Poll	Results	Spread
General Election: Trump vs. Biden	FOX News	Biden 49, Trump 40	Biden +9

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

[Crazy Alex]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Deny it all you want. I included an attachment of a video where Trump claimed this was a democratic hoax. If you watched him utter those words and are still asking me to prove this for you, there is not much I can do or say. You believe what you want to believe. 

As previously stated, the assertion that Trump said the virus was a hoax has been debunked. If that is your perception of the video, know that even leftist web sites like WaPo and Snopes have abandoned you.

[Crazy Alex]

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

An interesting compilation of pundits predicting the Biden 45 race if it ever happens. 

 

I think the first guy nails it. It's all about blood on the incumbents hands and his incompetence leading to massive covid deaths. We can't reelect that. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/03/who-has-edge-trump-or-biden/

 

 

Who has the edge? Trump or Biden?

Former Obama campaign manager David Plouffe says Biden is the one being set back by the virus.

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/ex-obama-campaign-manager-explains-how-coronavirus-crisis-not-hurting-trump-setting-back-biden

 

I somewhat disagree with Plouffe. The best thing Biden can do is stay hidden. Every time he opens his mouth, he shows how senile and/or stupid he is.

 

Your real problem is Biden himself. Trump fills stadiums. Biden struggles to fill a high school auditorium. There's no excitement for Biden. He's becoming more senile. Your best hope for 2020 is the DNC steps in and steals the nomination yet again. But then again, replace Biden with who?????

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:

As previously stated, the assertion that Trump said the virus was a hoax has been debunked. If that is your perception of the video, know that even leftist web sites like WaPo and Snopes have abandoned you.

it would be interesting to read your link to the WAPO article. In the meantime Snopes did not agree, what they actually said is at URL below.

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-covid19-statements/

[spidermike007]

9 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

As previously stated, the assertion that Trump said the virus was a hoax has been debunked. If that is your perception of the video, know that even leftist web sites like WaPo and Snopes have abandoned you.

My heart truly goes out to you. I hope you are able to recover soon. 

[candide]

12 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

As previously stated, the assertion that Trump said the virus was a hoax has been debunked. If that is your perception of the video, know that even leftist web sites like WaPo and Snopes have abandoned you.

I am a bit lost. What exactly is he calling a hoax?

Quote

"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs . . . They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country.And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that . . . we’ve lost nobody, and you wonder, the press is in hysteria mode.“

Edited April 4, 2020 by candide

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, bristolboy said:

In that event, you aren't going to be counting the results of most polls.

I don't believe any poll except the real one- the election.

[samran]

19 minutes ago, candide said:

I am a bit lost. What exactly is he calling a hoax?

Quote

"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs . . . They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country.And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that . . . we’ve lost nobody, and you wonder, the press is in hysteria mode.“

details, details.....such insignificant details 5555

[samran]

12 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Trump fills stadiums.

People slow down on freeways to watch the aftermath of car crashes as well...

 

 

[jany123]

1 hour ago, candide said:

I am a bit lost. What exactly is he calling a hoax?

Quote

"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs . . . They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country.And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that . . . we’ve lost nobody, and you wonder, the press is in hysteria mode.“

Lmao.... and trumps followers attack Biden’s speech.

 

communication skills are a leaders most important skills.... with this idiot in charge of communication, it’s no wonder folk that listen to him are confused.

 

thankfully a Democrat has stepped forward in New York to address the nation in a factual no nonsense manner.

 

[jany123]

14 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Former Obama campaign manager David Plouffe says Biden is the one being set back by the virus.

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/ex-obama-campaign-manager-explains-how-coronavirus-crisis-not-hurting-trump-setting-back-biden

 

I somewhat disagree with Plouffe. The best thing Biden can do is stay hidden. Every time he opens his mouth, he shows how senile and/or stupid he is.

 

Your real problem is Biden himself. Trump fills stadiums. Biden struggles to fill a high school auditorium. There's no excitement for Biden. He's becoming more senile. Your best hope for 2020 is the DNC steps in and steals the nomination yet again. But then again, replace Biden with who?????

Classic.... you counter a center left article citing nine people, with a far right publications article citing one person. Not even “check”, let alone “checkmate”

 

[Crazy Alex]

16 hours ago, simple1 said:

it would be interesting to read your link to the WAPO article. In the meantime Snopes did not agree, what they actually said is at URL below.

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-covid19-statements/

"Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."

 

Checkmate.

[Crazy Alex]

8 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

My heart truly goes out to you. I hope you are able to recover soon. 

From Snopes:

 

"Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

 

Even your pals at Snopes say you are WRONG. I hope you are able to accept the truth and stop posting the untruth soon.

 

PS: posting personal attacks in lieu of FACTS only highlights the fact you know you've lost the argument.

Edited April 4, 2020 by Crazy Alex

[candide]

4 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

"Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."

 

Checkmate.

Please enlight us. What did he call a hoax?

I.e. 

Quote

"Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs . . . They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country.And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that . . . we’ve lost nobody, and you wonder, the press is in hysteria mode.“

[jany123]

6 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

From Snopes:

 

"Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

 

Even your pals at Snopes say you are WRONG. I hope you are able to accept the truth and stop posting the untruth soon.

 

unsurprisingly... your not actually telling the whole truth. Snopes did not say that it was wrong... that’s your wording that your emboldening and presenting as fact .... what they really said was closer to a mythbusters “plausible” rating.... so yelling WRONG at the forum seems a bit tish.

[simple1]

6 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

"Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."

 

Checkmate.

No, not checkmate. trump accused the Dems of a hoax in their concern of trump's lack of urgency in his response to Covid  - it has since been proven the Dems were absolutely correct. Again with not one word from trump in any form of apology. trump even ignored early intelligence warning from his own intelligence agencies as to what was going on in China. The US now has 300,000 cases of Covid-19 primarily due to errors made by the trump administration.

 

It has now come to light the Obama administration had funded the development of N95 masks manufacture equipment (O&M Halyard) with very large volume output. trump administration canned the project, more than likely a political act as it was an Obama admin initiative. Let's hear from you and other trump apologists why no action was taken. Probably will have to wait for trump to comment in order you and others can be his propaganda echo chamber.

 

 

Edited April 4, 2020 by simple1

[metisdead]

A "45 cult" troll post has been removed.  

 

Some off topic posts and replies regarding the Clinton/Comey investigation have been removed. 

[bristolboy]

4 hours ago, simple1 said:

No, not checkmate. trump accused the Dems of a hoax in their concern of trump's lack of urgency in his response to Covid  - it has since been proven the Dems were absolutely correct. Again with not one word from trump in any form of apology. trump even ignored early intelligence warning from his own intelligence agencies as to what was going on in China. The US now has 300,000 cases of Covid-19 primarily due to errors made by the trump administration.

 

It has now come to light the Obama administration had funded the development of N95 masks manufacture equipment (O&M Halyard) with very large volume output. trump administration canned the project, more than likely a political act as it was an Obama admin initiative. Let's hear from you and other trump apologists why no action was taken. Probably will have to wait for trump to comment in order you and others can be his propaganda echo chamber.

 

 

Here's an article with links to support your claim:

 

Federal government spent millions to ramp up mask readiness, but that isn’t helping now

 

In September 2018, the Trump administration received detailed plans for a new machine designed to churn out millions of protective respirator masks at high speed during a pandemic.

The plans, submitted to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) by the medical manufacturer O&M Halyard, were the culmination of a venture unveiled almost three years earlier by the Obama administration.

But HHS did not proceed with making the machine.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/federal-government-spent-millions-to-ramp-up-mask-readiness-but-that-isnt-helping-now/

Edited April 5, 2020 by bristolboy

[spidermike007]

12 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

"Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax."

 

Checkmate.

Please stop. Can't you see how much you are embarrassing yourself in front of thousands? I know how hard it must be to defend this guy. But enough is enough. Why can't some of his supporters just admit that much of what he says is inane, inaccurate, misleading, and just big, fat lies?  Here are quotes from your own source. He has been misleading the American public since day one.

 

On Jan. 22, asked by a CNBC reporter whether there were “worries about a pandemic,” the president replied: “No, not at all. We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

 

On Feb. 26, at a White House news conference, commenting on the country’s first reported cases: “We’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.”

 

On Feb. 27, at a White House meeting: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Please stop. Can't you see how much you are embarrassing yourself in front of thousands? I know how hard it must be to defend this guy. But enough is enough. Why can't some of his supporters just admit that much of what he says is inane, inaccurate, misleading, and just big, fat lies?  Here are quotes from your own source. He has been misleading the American public since day one.

 

On Jan. 22, asked by a CNBC reporter whether there were “worries about a pandemic,” the president replied: “No, not at all. We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

 

On Feb. 26, at a White House news conference, commenting on the country’s first reported cases: “We’re going to be pretty soon at only five people. And we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.”

 

On Feb. 27, at a White House meeting: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”

He did't literally call covid19 a hoax. But his words and inaction reveal that he didn't believe it was a threat. In other words a distinction without a difference. 

[spidermike007]

46 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

He did't literally call covid19 a hoax. But his words and inaction reveal that he didn't believe it was a threat. In other words a distinction without a difference. 

He literally called the democratic reaction to Covid a hoax. That cannot be denied. He was caught with his pants down. He was outed by Covid. He was unmasked by a disease after all of his previous scandals could not do so. Now, alot more people know who he really is. 

[JHolmesJr]

I feel sorry for anyone who leans 100% on polls to inform themselves.

This poll is clear BS...the whole of America is being treated to the 

agony of watching Biden...a sad shell of a ex VP who, along with his

shady past, corrupt family members and sexual misconduct allegations,

is showing signs of advanced mental deterioration and hopelessly out

of touch with his own mind. Yes, his own mind.

 

A vote for this wastrel is a vote for a proxy president who will be run

by shadowy forces in the background.

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said:

I feel sorry for anyone who leans 100% on polls to inform themselves.

This poll is clear BS...the whole of America is being treated to the 

agony of watching Biden...a sad shell of a ex VP who, along with his

shady past, corrupt family members and sexual misconduct allegations,

is showing signs of advanced mental deterioration and hopelessly out

of touch with his own mind. Yes, his own mind.

 

A vote for this wastrel is a vote for a proxy president who will be run

by shadowy forces in the background.

What were your expectations for the 2018 midterms? Aligned with the polls or not?

[evadgib]

I'm not sure a diamond bullet will be enough to stop him come November.

[bristolboy]

10 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I'm not sure a diamond bullet will be enough to stop him come November.

Because of his record on health care?

[candide]

And the moron goes on....

"Trump says lupus patients are less likely to get Covid-19 due to hydroxychloroquine use despite lack of evidence"

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-04-05-20/h_3a1077251c2c3d3953551cfa45a44910

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

A vote for this wastrel is a vote for a proxy president who will be run

by shadowy forces in the background.

Textbook ‘projection’.

[Chomper Higgot]

16 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Because of his record on health care?

I have a feeling his news briefings are going to prove to be a significant factor in the coming election.

 

I hope he continues to do them.

[metisdead]

Some troll posts have been removed. 

[Crazy Alex]

On 4/3/2020 at 4:56 PM, simple1 said:

it would be interesting to read your link to the WAPO article. In the meantime Snopes did not agree, what they actually said is at URL below.

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-covid19-statements/

You have linked to the wrong post. There is a post specifically fact checking whether Trump said the virus was a hoax. They clearly state he did not say the virus is a hoax.