One in four women is not free to say no to sex, U.N. research finds

[faraday]

1 hour ago, pdtokyo said:

In Australia, Sydney, Mudgee, Nowra, Brisbane and Melbourne and various points between ... quite a few ... admittedly more so driving the trucks and buses and prime-movers and dump trucks and as mechanics ... but maybe Oz doesn't qualify as West ... more South really. 

Yes, similar to the UK it seems.

 

However, your reply to my post, doesn't really address what I was saying.

[BangkokReady]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Given you were quoting me I'd like to know what you meant.

I took it as they were suggesting that there may be a genetic cause to your ex-wife's behavior, or it maybe behavior that she learnt from someone else (normally parents).  I think her final suggestion is to not give it any more thought and forget about it.

 

I feel, while this is a good suggestion in terms of forgetting what happened and moving on with your life, I'm not sure if the user has your best interests at heart or if they would rather not see anyone considering that anything bad a woman does is innate.  This would really go against the "women good/men bad and anything that women do that is bad is caused by men" view that many "feminists" espouse.

 

Personally, given the behavior you see in women and men and the difference in their motivation to have sex, there is probably something genetic in terms of women being more likely to want sex if they seek to gain something.  Women will prostitute themselves for money, have sex with disgusting but rich men, show libido variance related to wanting to secure a mate or get something.  I don't believe the same can be said for men, however, they do go to ridiculous lengths to secure income which then translates to access to sex.  Then again, you do sometimes see men prostituting themselves in certain circumstances.  And you could consider most jobs to be an exploitation of the body.

 

It's an interesting subject and if you want to explore it, you are free to do so.

[faraday]

I see I got yet another 'confused emoji' from Chomps, on my posts # 17 & #23.

 

He's quite skilled at that. And at avoiding giving a reasonable response.

 

Bless him.....

@Chomper Higgot

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

I took it as they were suggesting that there may be a genetic cause to your ex-wife's behavior, or it maybe behavior that she learnt from someone else (normally parents).  I think her final suggestion is to not give it any more thought and forget about it.

I wasn't talking about my wife per se, but rather about women as a whole. I only lived with two women in my life ( other than my birth family ) and both of them pulled the same BS on me. I worked with women, and most that would talk about it in front of me seemed to be of the opinion that sex was a means to an end, while I'm sure most men consider sex as the objective.

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, faraday said:

I see I got yet another 'confused emoji' from Chomps, on my posts # 17 & #23.

 

He's quite skilled at that. And at avoiding giving a reasonable response.

 

Bless him.....

@Chomper Higgot

It's not at all difficult to work out why I did so. 

 

Both #17 and #23 are wide of the topic under discussion. 

 

 

[marko kok prong]

Well i can tell you in my house it is always my gf who initiates it,she can't seem to get enough,then i look in the mirror and i understand.

[BangkokReady]

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I wasn't talking about my wife per se, but rather about women as a whole. I only lived with two women in my life ( other than my birth family ) and both of them pulled the same BS on me. I worked with women, and most that would talk about it in front of me seemed to be of the opinion that sex was a means to an end, while I'm sure most men consider sex as the objective.

Yes.  I understood that.  I think that the other user was probably being deliberately obtuse in an attempt to shame you into not following that particular line of thought.

 

I have similar experiences to you and, while I'm not going to say women could never possibly have sex simply because they are driven to do so to satisfy their sexual needs in the same way men do, women do clearly have very different motivations to men when it comes to sex.  They can definitely be a lot more likely to have a purpose to having sex, rather than simply the "release" that men seek.  Obviously most "feminists" will not want to hear this (hence the attempt to silence you) because it is central to their ideology to deny any biological differences between men and women.  It probably still feels to them like an urge to have sex, but the cause is slightly different.  Maybe "spread DNA" for men but "secure provision/protection" for women.

[kensawadee]

1 hour ago, pdtokyo said:

Sorry i can't help you with that. Maybe you could stick a ''confused" smiley on my post and move on?

Yougot what you asked for........   Very laughable.......

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I wonder if there is a gene that makes western women randy till after they get married. My first partner was up for it till she had me trapped. She tried it on her next victim too, but he wasn't going to have that and divorced her pronto.

I actually believe most women are quite cold and calculating about acquiring a home.

It's planned from the first date, sex is the hook, she only pretended to be randy.

LTR bang and a sports bang are totally different choices for women with different objectives and totally different men. Sports bang (and probably insemination bang) will be with thug/drug dealer/murderer/bad boy not LTR guy.

I doubt there are many women who marry men they actually desire.

Edited April 2, 2020 by BritManToo

[Mac98]

Of course women should have the right to say 'No'. Absolutely! (Sorry, I can't control my dreams.)

[BritManToo]

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

Don't know about that but my missus say NO all the times...

My misses has the right to say no, along with the right to find somewhere else to live and the right to find someone else to pay all her expenses..

Edited April 2, 2020 by BritManToo

[Mac98]

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I actually believe most women are quite cold and calculating about acquiring a home.

It's planned from the first date, sex is the hook, she only pretended to be randy.

LTR bang and a sports bang are totally different choices for women with different objectives and totally different men. Sports bang (and probably insemination bang) will be with thug/drug dealer/murderer/bad boy not LTR guy.

I doubt there are many women who marry men they actually desire.

Correct. And then they take all their hard feelings about playing with the bad boys out on the hard-working chumps they lasso for the long run. Or, to be fair, this is more common than they would care to admit.

[Logosone]

14 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I actually believe most women are quite cold and calculating about acquiring a home.

It's planned from the first date, sex is the hook, she only pretended to be randy.

LTR bang and a sports bang are totally different choices for women with different objectives and totally different men. Sports bang (and probably insemination bang) will be with thug/drug dealer/murderer/bad boy not LTR guy.

I doubt there are many women who marry men they actually desire.

It is us men who suffer from a deep emotional life, women do not suffer from it in such large extremes. They have generally played the game a whole lot more than you and lost a whole lot more than you. Because being a woman is like being a rocking star for a man, constant options and attentions, the other sex throwing themselves at you.  Their experience outclasses ours.

 

Because they've been lied to and disappointed so much basically they think everything is game and will lie even worse.

 

Like Whitney Houston said, it's a contact sport.

 

 

[Isaanbiker]

6 hours ago, Chazar said:

Not to me she doesnt????

Your wife told me a totally different story. 

[colinneil]

11 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

My misses has the right to say no, along with the right to find somewhere else to live.

Not a very nice attitude, life can be great without sex you know.

My wife and i no sex now in over 6 years, just as happy now without sex as we were when we were doing it.

[deeks]

"No" "Don't" "Stop"--------------- "Ooh don't stop"????

[faraday]

33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It's not at all difficult to work out why I did so. 

 

Both #17 and #23 are wide of the topic under discussion. 

 

 

Really......?

 

Paragraph # 3 from the OP.

 

 

"Achieving gender equality by 2030 was one of the global goals adopted by the United Nations in 2015 to tackle social ills like poverty and conflict."

 

And, if you look at the link, provided by pdtokyo in his post #3, then look at the picture, where a female is holding a card up....read what those words say.

 

So, not really, in you saying my posts were:

 

"wide of the mark"

 

Comprehension not your strong point, or do you just like to be controversial?

 

 

 

Here's an explanation of that big word:

 

 

 

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/controversial

[faraday]

6 minutes ago, Logosone said:

It is us men who suffer from a deep emotional life, women do not suffer from it in such large extremes. They have generally played the game a whole lot more than you and lost a whole lot more than you. Because being a woman is like being a rocking star for a man, constant options and attentions, the other sex throwing themselves at you.  Their experience outclasses ours.

 

Because they've been lied to and disappointed so much basically they think everything is game and will lie even worse.

 

Like Whitney Houston said, it's a contact sport.

 

 

Do you actually know anything about women, because your first sentence is completely inaccurate.

[Logosone]

I've forgotten more than you will ever know.

[Airalee]

Due to psoriasis/psoriatic arthritis, I’m usually the one who says no.

 

I’m sure that somehow, that will be used against me.

 

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

[George Aylesham]

7 hours ago, Chazar said:

Not to me she doesnt????

Doubtless Ezzra is now getting ready to biff Chazar.

[Sujo]

44 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

My misses has the right to say no, along with the right to find somewhere else to live and the right to find someone else to pay all her expenses..

Perhaps find a missus that doesnt rely on you for that and would be with you for love, instead of for money. I couldnt marry a girl knowing i have her basically imprisoned to me.

[BritManToo]

20 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Perhaps find a missus that doesnt rely on you for that and would be with you for love, instead of for money. I couldnt marry a girl knowing i have her basically imprisoned to me.

Tried that in the UK, 30 years of no sex and she still got everything in the divorce she initiated.

My current misses has many choices, she just sees working for a living as the worst possible choice.

 

Edited April 2, 2020 by BritManToo

[talahtnut]

The Greeks were onto the game C700BC,

Why aren't we? Concerning the god Pandora,

Hesiod writes, "From her is the race of women and female kind: of her is the deadly race and tribe of women who live amongst mortal men to their great trouble, no helpmeets in hateful poverty, but only in wealth".

Edited April 2, 2020 by talahtnut
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[Happy Grumpy]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

One in four women is not free to say no to sex

I've definitely dated the other 3. 

[Krataiboy]

9 hours ago, ezzra said:

Don't know about that but my missus say NO all the times...

Serves you right for asking rather than telling.

[puipuitom]

8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Lets look i.e. at the land of the free: How many women vote for many officials who are against abortion? Many women do that, otherwise these people wouldn't be elected. And many women chose to support religions and preachers who force women in certain roles. Why do women do that?

 

If all women would insist that they are free and only 10% of men would support them that would still be the majority. Women have the power to change things the way they want it. Or, in other words, it shows that many women want it like it is.

You think, any woman ha s any choice in the muslim dominated countries ? Or in several macho dominated catholic countries liek Mexico ?

[BritManToo]

3 hours ago, BritManToo said:

My misses has the right to say no, along with the right to find somewhere else to live and the right to find someone else to pay all her expenses..

PDtokyo on ignore for being 'sad'.

I don't need sad people in my life, or confused people for that matter.

Edited April 2, 2020 by BritManToo

[jvs]

5 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

Oh God,she said it was only me she was having an affair with.

You have a nice house!!!

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, pdtokyo said:

hear hear ... after 3 or 4 months prowling TV i should not be surprised at the seemingly high proportion of males on this site with early 20th century attitudes towards their 'partners' ... but i am.

 

On the bright side, i hope many of them treat this site as some sort of Trumpian 'locker room' and in real life actually show (and receive) a bit of genuine love and affection, but gee, some of the posts are so sad and confused i'm running out of stamps. 

If you weren't stuck looking through a "gendered lens" and thought about the type of people that hold these views, you would see that they are very often of the "her indoors", "check with the boss", "happy wife happy life" generation.  This is why they often actually have decent relationships with Thai women as their attitudes are often complimentary.  (Thai women respect the opinion of the man, Western men respect the opinion of the woman.)

 

This is also the reason that these types of men have difficulty with the "feminist" viewpoint that women are somehow oppressed and this needs to be addressed.  You essentially have a group of men who are working hard to provide for their family, allow the woman to be passively in charge of the family, yet still end up with people telling them they also have to try to address some sort of imaginary oppression that women face.  I'm sure you can relate to how frustrating this must be.