No water

[mran66]

Anybody know what is behind the water supply stop, no water for 3 or 4 days in Pratamnak already?

[scubascuba3]

there was a thread about the planned cut off of water, i can't recall Pratamak being mentioned

[Bandersnatch]

Suspension of the water from Provincial Waterworks Authority Pattaya / ประกาศแจ้งตารางการจ่ายน้ำประปาจากการประปาส่วนภูมิภาค พัทยา

 

Dear:  Co-Owners / Residents,

The Building management would like to inform that Provincial Water Authority had announced temporary shortages in water supply all over Pattaya. The Provincial Waterworks Authority, Pattaya branch, has announced the water distribution schedule for April 2020 
 

 

 

 

 

[LongTimeLurker]

Do you meant he mains water supply? I guess Mabrachan Lake is empty, it was mud last time I was down that way.

 

Or do you meant the bottled water suppliers who deliver to condos? I expect they have been affected by the coronovirus, just buy water from 7-11 or those filter machines in the street.

 

Or do you mean the water bowsers? They're delivering to my condo since the public supply has been limited.

[mran66]

1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Do you meant he mains water supply? I guess Mabrachan Lake is empty, it was mud last time I was down that way.

 

Or do you meant the bottled water suppliers who deliver to condos? I expect they have been affected by the coronovirus, just buy water from 7-11 or those filter machines in the street.

 

Or do you mean the water bowsers? They're delivering to my condo since the public supply has been limited.

I meant mains. As bandersnatch posted it appears to be because of water supply situation now, first due to some pipe broken in top of pratamnak soi 6.

[Guderian]

7 minutes ago, mran66 said:

I meant mains. As bandersnatch posted it appears to be because of water supply situation now, first due to some pipe broken in top of pratamnak soi 6.

I think it's more extensive than just Pratumnak. Where I live on Theprpasit Soi 8 we've only been getting mains water every second day for a while now. Before that we had water every night but during the day they dialed down the pressure so there was a trickle but not much. The current situation is a closed valve somewhere, no pressure or water flowing at all. I guess unless we get some decent rain soon then we'll be reduced to mains water on every third day only.

[DrTuner]

It's been like that for weeks here in southern darkside. Maprachan and Nong Kho have zero usable water. 

https://www.thaiwater.net/DATA/REPORT/php/show_sm_dam.php?lang=en

 

The other reservoir that feeds the system is Nong Pla Lai and it too is nearing it's dead limit:

https://www.thaiwater.net//DATA/REPORT/php/rid_lgraph3.php?dam_id=30

 

By the way it's going it'll hit the dead limit in the latter half of April. Expect more shortages or complete outages. Rains might take months to come.

 

[mran66]

Couple of months ago I recall reading some local goverment people telling no need to worry about water supply as it would be delivered thru some pipelines from some other areas which presumably had water resources. 

 

Anybody know about this? Was for real or just some political <deleted>? 

 

If tourism would be normal, situation would probably be quite bad actually if no supply from outside as consumption would be quite some more. 

[DrTuner]

30 minutes ago, mran66 said:

Couple of months ago I recall reading some local goverment people telling no need to worry about water supply as it would be delivered thru some pipelines from some other areas which presumably had water resources. 

Not many pipes on the eastern seaboard: http://eastw.listedcompany.com/misc/AR/20160323-eastw-sdr-2015-en.pdf

 

Only thing one can do, if you have water tanks, is to order tanker fill-ups which I presume come from Maprachan. Although it has zero usable water, meaning the pump intake is above the water level, tankers can suck some out. We just had our tanks filled today.

[thaibeachlovers]

Back in the 90s the water tankers were a familiar sight. Since the number of accommodations increased substantially since then, water shortages were inevitable.

Like many city bureaucracies, they keep increasing numbers of people to make more money without increasing infrastructure to cope.

[Guderian]

Lots of tanker trucks around the area today, as if we didn't all have enough on our plates with Covid19.

[DrTuner]

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Since the number of accommodations increased substantially since then, water shortages were inevitable.

A lot of the water is consumed by the EEC industries. And it's only going to get worse with the Chinese piling on with their whip & belt conquering plans and water resources being scarce on the eastern seaboard.

[thaibeachlovers]

If Thai authorities were on the ball, they'd have set up solar powered desalination facilities decades ago, but of course the reality is that they ain't.

[jmccarty]

Shut off this morning Mabtato area!

[William Osborne]

it would have been interesting to know if they would have gone ahead with the week-long wastage of water during Songran ...if the virus hadnt struck.

 

[Kerryd]

In Nong Prue (the Darkside) we have had "lowered" pressure for months but most of the cutoffs have been due to construction issues (breaks in the line) that have lasted for a few hours.

However, 2 days ago our village posted signs that for the rest of the month (at least) there would be water cut-offs on odd numbered days. The signs say from 05-18:00 however it seems to be more of a 24 hour thing.

Yesterday no water in the morning and none in the late evening. 
This morning, normal (low pressure) water in the morning. My tank (and garbage pail used for water) are full again so no worries for a few days or so all going well.

 

On 4/7/2020 at 7:25 PM, DrTuner said:

Only thing one can do, if you have water tanks, is to order tanker fill-ups which I presume come from Maprachan. Although it has zero usable water, meaning the pump intake is above the water level, tankers can suck some out. We just had our tanks filled today.

Be wary of those tankers. Many years ago when I was living in South Pattaya there was a severe water shortage and everyone was paying for those tankers to fill their storage tanks.

 

Until they found out that those trucks were filling up with water out of any klong they could drop their hose into !
Some were filling from the reservoir but a lot of others were sucking up ditch water.

(I think it was a local newspaper that investigated that after reports of "smelly" water being delivered. Not sure what the outcome was as it wasn't long before normal water was restored.)

[mran66]

2 hours ago, Kerryd said:

However, 2 days ago our village posted signs that for the rest of the month (at least) there would be water cut-offs on odd numbered days. The signs say from 05-18:00 however it seems to be more of a 24 hour thing.

Yesterday no water in the morning and none in the late evening. 
This morning, normal (low pressure) water in the morning. My tank (and garbage pail used for water) are full again so no worries for a few days or so all going well.

The official info from pwa seems just a lip service... Here in Pratamnak should have water every 2nd day however sometimes few days without and until today had for 2 or 3 days in a row... So as usual, they can not plan even for water allocation. Or at least not execute the plan. 

[Kerryd]

Like many things, "Planning" and "Execution" are often at odds with each other.

Easy for some to "Plan" outages in certain areas at certain times. Maybe not so easy for the people who actually have to go out and start cranking valves or turning pumps off and on, especially with everything else going on at the moment as well. I'm guess the water authority isn't at the "modern control room full of monitors, gauges and remote switches that control all the water flow from a single console" stage yet so a lot of the "on/off" has to be done manually.
Just a guess though !

I'd say - make sure you fill up what you can when there is water and try to stretch things out when there isn't any.

I'm lucky, I've got a 1,200 liter tank on the patio and three 45 gallon plastic garbage cans (aka mosquito breeders it seems, despite having lids on them). Only have one can full currently though (emptied the other 2 recently as they seemed to be accumulating some large quantities of a dark substance somehow, despite being inside the house and having the lids clamped on. I thought they might be masses of dead mosquito larva. Emptied the cans, rinsed them and put them away for the time being).
If things get worse I'll put them in the bathroom and fill them again so I'll have water for the toilet and can have a bowl bath now and then.
 

[tropo]

On 4/6/2020 at 1:32 PM, LongTimeLurker said:

Do you meant he mains water supply? I guess Mabrachan Lake is empty, it was mud last time I was down that way.

 

Or do you meant the bottled water suppliers who deliver to condos? I expect they have been affected by the coronovirus, just buy water from 7-11 or those filter machines in the street.

 

Or do you mean the water bowsers? They're delivering to my condo since the public supply has been limited.

I would think the lack of rainfall is the primary concern. All year we have had no rainfall (other than a brief shower about 3 weeks ago). We've had nothing since October, and even then it was sparse. Our building was repainted in November and I'm still waiting for a shower to clean off the dust/dirt that has accumulated since then. The brief shower I mentioned above was too short.

[OneeyedJohn]

We got a call from our Phu yai bahn today offering maybe some water delivered to our house, god knows where its coming from, but will use it for washing the rear end only.

[Leaver]

On 4/6/2020 at 9:05 PM, DrTuner said:

By the way it's going it'll hit the dead limit in the latter half of April. Expect more shortages or complete outages. Rains might take months to come.

Judging by the graph you posted, it looks like the dam will run dry in the last week of April.  If Corona Virus never came about, the water would already be gone. 

 

That will then put pressure on wherever the water trucks will be sourcing their water, which would never have ben intended to supply Pattaya City with water, so then it dries up also. 

 

Interesting times ahead for water infrastructure here.  

 

 

[Guderian]

We had a few hours with decent pressure yesterday evening, so I got the lawn sprinkler started and washed the car. The water meter says that over 800 litres was delivered, and my tank is full, so I'm OK for another day or two.

[marmaduke]

Water Co. on Chaipornwithi told us water would be on 5AM-9AM, and 4PM-8PM a few days back. That did not occur even one time. We did notice water came into our tank 3AM-6AM the last few days. We live 1K from Mabprachan.

 

Edited April 10, 2020 by marmaduke

[Leaver]

1 hour ago, Guderian said:

We had a few hours with decent pressure yesterday evening, so I got the lawn sprinkler started and washed the car. The water meter says that over 800 litres was delivered, and my tank is full, so I'm OK for another day or two.

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Edited April 10, 2020 by Leaver

[Leaver]

Have those members who buy trucked water noticed any price increases? 

 

Are all the companies charging the same? 

[vogie]

4 minutes ago, Leaver said:

Have those members who buy trucked water noticed any price increases? 

 

Are all the companies charging the same? 

It is a recent experience getting the 2000L trucks delivering water to fill my water tanks, they charge between 140 - 160 baht for their service. Cheap as chips.

[Leaver]

9 minutes ago, vogie said:

It is a recent experience getting the 2000L trucks delivering water to fill my water tanks, they charge between 140 - 160 baht for their service. Cheap as chips.

Yes, very cheap, thus, I think many will use the service when the lake runs dry.  Just wondering where they are getting it from, and what percentage of that supply is left. 

 

Edited April 10, 2020 by Leaver

[time2093]

19 hours ago, William Osborne said:

it would have been interesting to know if they would have gone ahead with the week-long wastage of water during Songran ...if the virus hadnt struck.

 

Of course they would as thers plenty of spare water for Songkron, but not for everyday life.