AussieBob18 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said: not really communist, despite the outdated label. (to be rich is glorious!) i'd go with authoritarian, perhaps totalitarian, but not as far as dictatorship. there is the single main party, but just as with east germany, there are a number of small, controlled "opposition" parties. after all, nobody would claim north korea is a "peoples democratic republic." i expect things will go very badly with thailand in the next month if they can't get the population under control. the government will panic, they will see the success china has had controlling the spread, and they will request assistance in setting up similar systems to track individuals. all will be done with good intentions of course, for national security. and maybe next year when there's a vaccine and this is all over, the new measures will not go away. as with the inappropriately-titled "patriot act", new powers gifted to the government won't ever be relinquished. I agree 100% - sad that many Expats seem to think that it will all be OK and nothing will go wrong/bad for them. They have the same 'mai pen rai' attitude to this, that Thais have to helmets on bikes - which they ridicule them for. Done my bit - given advice to prepare, just in case it goes bad - now I am like the Thais and say: Laew Tae Khun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TooBigToFit Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 Are they heading to boy scout camp with little tents all around in a big auditorium? I also wonder if the rich and connected are able to remove their kids or family members from the quarantine. I just don't see these requirements and official prevailing over the power of the powerful or traditional Thai culture aka corruption and privilege. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 The phrase, couldn't organise a <deleted> up in a brewery, spring to mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChouDoufu Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 wow. just got an email from my sister in the usa. we were chatting last night about people ignoring advice to stay home. she thought it was stupid and selfish of them to go out. oh, the latest email? she's going shopping at walmart tomorrow. she NEEDS to buy clothes for her 12 year old daughter. (apparently the latest fashions can't wait) says there will be a line, so she needs to get there by 6am. we are doomed. 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego49 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 hours ago, justaphase said: Typical Thais, thinking that it doesn't apply to them. Like road rules ect ect 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, AussieBob18 said: I agree 100% - sad that many Expats seem to think that it will all be OK and nothing will go wrong/bad for them. They have the same 'mai pen rai' attitude to this, that Thais have to helmets on bikes - which they ridicule them for. Done my bit - given advice to prepare, just in case it goes bad - now I am like the Thais and say: Laew Tae Khun I disagree. Thailand has had its struggles. The 2011 floods, the numerous coups and the 1997 Asian financial crisis. It is a hardy country which tends to deal with crisis as part of it normal existence and knows fairly well how to bounce back from them. I'd be more worried about the entitled suburban joes and janes back the west in their highly leveraged McMansions dealing with this to be honest. They've already shown they struggle to deal with a simple lack of loo roll. Edited April 4, 2020 by samran 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Grumpy John Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, z42 said: Didn't Thai nationals need fit to fly certificates before they would be allowed to board planes, as an entry requirement at the Thai end. If that was the case here, and they'd obtained that, then i see why they would be unwilling to undergo quarantine for something they'd been cleared for already. Tough titties. Their all potential spreaders. The police and the army should have cuffed the lot of em and taken them to an army base prison for 14 days without their mobile phones. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, samran said: It is a hardy country which tends to deal with crisis as part of it normal existence and knows fairly well how to bounce back from them. I agree , Thailand is in a perpetual state of chaos but still continues to stagger on ???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Grumpy John said: The police and the army should have cuffed the lot of em and taken them to an army base prison for 14 days without their mobile phones. I read that they where taken to the Sattahip Navy base for quarantine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, johng said: I agree , Thailand is in a perpetual state of chaos but still continues to stagger on ???? Basically this is what is required for the time being. Not idea for other things, but perfect for this challenge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, johng said: I read that they where taken to the Sattahip Navy base for quarantine The naval base has a top beach there. Would have been quite nice... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Dcheech said: Hey IO/Police! Leave Those PooYais Alone!! Back off , these are Very Important People, & need to get home. No quarantine or self isolation for them. No no. Thai Authorities best tactic is IGNORE and pretend nothing happened maybe no one will notice. Go find some dirty foreigners, and bang them up in the hoosegow. You obviously haven't taken a look at Thai social media... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, samran said: The naval base has a top beach there. Would have been quite nice... The beach was closed a while back before the other beaches....but yes it is supposed to be a nice beach..maybe the best in the area but every time I tried to visit they never let a "dirty no mask foreigner" like me in so gave up trying ages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomazbodner Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 5 hours ago, rooster59 said: After twenty minutes the reluctant health authorities were obliged to back down and the group were allowed to go into a 14 day quarantine at their homes. Are you kidding?! They don't want to go into quarantine, send them back behind the immigration to fend for themselves or lock them up in IDC until they come to senses! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, hotelbri said: Serious question !!! Do any posters KNOW of any expats their partners or family who actually are experiencing symptoms of this virus ?, There was a thread about this a few weeks ago and every poster described symptoms including me and now my wife and grand niece and MIL have or have had symptoms.These flu like symptoms go around here all year every year as well as the rest of the world stretching health services every year and when you pile this virus on top (wether is more deadly or not) it shows how easily the stretched health systems can break.No country has proven that it was as ready for this as they lead their people to believe. Edited April 4, 2020 by FarFlungFalang 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, RandolphGB said: in a quarantine prison I did not realise that prisons we now located in hotels in BKK. Other countries have quarantined returnees in hotels, why not Thai ? I would consent to being quarantined at the Banyan Tree in a suite or Sindhorn Kempinski Hotel They may be disaappointed that they are delayed returning to home, but what about the good of the community? I am not sure anyone has died from disappointment. Edited April 4, 2020 by RJRS1301 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 too funny , except it is serious. Farangs are being forced into three hotels in Phuket. But Thais, oh no, yell and rant and they can do what they want. Thailand was so much fun a few years ago. Now of course the underbelly is showing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 5 hours ago, z42 said: Didn't Thai nationals need fit to fly certificates before they would be allowed to board planes, as an entry requirement at the Thai end. If that was the case here, and they'd obtained that, then i see why they would be unwilling to undergo quarantine for something they'd been cleared for already. What about that? :The Department of Health said that three of the group with fever had already been found. These disappeared in the crowds taking advantage of the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, mauGR1 said: Agree, one should be allowed to quarantine at home, in theory. In theory, but in practice many people would not stick to staying self isolated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Camillof said: I'm eagerly awaiting to hear Mr. Anutin's comment on this. It's the farangs' fault for letting them on the plane or not getting them home earlier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 The Thais are revolting ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said: The Thais are revolting ? OK!That's the last straw I'm revolting too! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: I did not realise that prisons we now located in hotels in BKK. Other countries have quarantined returnees in hotels, why not Thai ? I would consent to being quarantined at the Banyan Tree in a suite or Sindhorn Kempinski Hotel They may be disaappointed that they are delayed returning to home, but what about the good of the community? I am not sure anyone has died from disappointment. Not that long ago the U.S. quarantined a great many returnees at Air Force Bases and last I read they were set up for a thousand occupants. Edited April 4, 2020 by Dap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, darksidedog said: Now can you imagine the furore if 100 farang were putting on the same performance. There would be calls for all of us to be deported or shot. They would have backed down too though. It's called people power, and we farang are usually more aware of our civil rights than Thais are. I am most surprised that these Thais weren't forcibly detained. It just goes to show how fragile the whole system is...it's more of an illusion than a reality. If enough people rise up, the government's dictates would be forced to crumble overnight. Not advocating anything...just saying. Watch what will happen when the food runs out. If that happens, people will rise up and the military/police will be powerless to stop it. Edited April 4, 2020 by drbeach 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, samran said: I disagree. Thailand has had its struggles. The 2011 floods, the numerous coups and the 1997 Asian financial crisis. It is a hardy country which tends to deal with crisis as part of it normal existence and knows fairly well how to bounce back from them. I'd be more worried about the entitled suburban joes and janes back the west in their highly leveraged McMansions dealing with this to be honest. They've already shown they struggle to deal with a simple lack of loo roll. I don't see Thailand bouncing back that easily. I think many Thais are simply going to be resigned to their fate and make do with less. After all, as you've implied here, Thais live in smaller, less comfortable properties. They have less to begin with. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damascase Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 hours ago, stuhan said: I've just tracked 2 planes 1 from taipei to bkk and 1 from ubon to dmk so are they going to be allowed to land,if not now would be a good time to tell them. It’s about international passenger-carrying flights only. From Taipei, EVA flies empty to BKK and picks up passengers for, e.g., London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieBob18 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, samran said: I disagree. Thailand has had its struggles. The 2011 floods, the numerous coups and the 1997 Asian financial crisis. It is a hardy country which tends to deal with crisis as part of it normal existence and knows fairly well how to bounce back from them. I'd be more worried about the entitled suburban joes and janes back the west in their highly leveraged McMansions dealing with this to be honest. They've already shown they struggle to deal with a simple lack of loo roll. But they panic because they dont have bum guns :) Hope you are right, but none of the previous problems involved matial law clampdowns. In Aust we will be all right mate - but in the US it could get very ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, samran said: You obviously haven't taken a look at Thai social media... You mean Thai social media is full of people criticizing the police/military/government? Well , being fluent in Thai I already knew that, but some posters here have a strange view of reality. On the one hand, Thais are all sheep, on the other, they have just successfully managed to avoid quarantine. Despite being more aware of our rights, I somehow doubt a group of 100 Aussies would have had the same success if they had tried the same thing at Melbourne airport. Then again, Aussies are overall, less likely to rise up against authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritsSikkink Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 hours ago, RandolphGB said: They boarded their planes thinking they would shortly be home, seeing family again, without ever being told that they would have to spend 14 days in a quarantine prison. It’s understandable that they were angry. Many would not have returned if they had known what would happen. If they had read the news they would know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woogoo Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Soupdragon said: After twenty minutes the reluctant health authorities were obliged to back down and the group were allowed to go into a 14 day quarantine at their homes. Okay. It's official. Thais are the biggest cowards on the planet. If it's not 10 cab drivers on 1 foreigner or a solider with assault rifles at a shopping mall then they just backdown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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