riclag Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, simple1 said: <deleted> the task force was embedded with National Security as a measure to manage risk assessment and develop policy in case there was a pandemic. It is alleged Bolton disbanded the unit as a cost saving mechanism. I understand there will be an investigation as to the circumstances and affect on the trump admin response to Covid. Personally I don't trust trump admin for a transparent investigation by a country mile. Article reviewing the backward and forwards ins & outs below. Just a month before the first coronavirus cases emerged in China, a two-year CSIS commission, which included six members of Congress, health experts, and former U.S. and military officials warned that they were “sounding the alarm that the U.S. government is caught in a cycle of crisis and complacency” when it came to preparing the country for a pandemic. As its very first recommendation, the commission urged the White House to restore health security leadership at the NSC. https://time.com/5806558/administration-officials-fight-criticism/ "Now architects of the NSC reorganization are speaking out, defending the White House’s decision by arguing that they merely streamlined a bloated organization and put pandemic and bioweapons experts in the same room, a move that was tested in real time by the 2018 upsurge in cases of the Ebola haemorrhagic fever in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Former officials say that the outbreak has been largely defeated, proof that the current White House can readily respond to such threats if given enough warning. They instead blame China, claiming the country waited weeks, if not months, to warn the world early enough to stop the spread of COVID-19" https://time.com/5806558/administration-officials-fight-criticism/ 180 countries including the USA relied on the WHO, who was using China's facts in early January! Edited April 8, 2020 by riclag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UbonThani Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dap said: Could someone (in the know) please tell me what President Trump's credentials are of ... anything??? As opposed to Biden who doesnt know what year it is or Obama who claimed co2 was our biggest problem 555 Trump is slaming the useless WHO and rightly so. Edited April 8, 2020 by UbonThani 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Well it was originally suggested by China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization#Establishment Quote During the 1945 United Nations Conference on International Organization, Szeming Sze, a delegate from the Republic of China, conferred with Norwegian and Brazilian delegates on creating an international health organization under the auspices of the new United Nations. No wonder since they are one of the main sources of new epidemics. Unsanitary habits and destroying the forests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selatan Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Tug said: Imo he’s looking for something or someone to blame for his bungled response just canned the inspector general threatening the World Health Organization it’s pathetically obvious trump never ever takes responsibility for anything he always blames and if possible slanders the fall guy it’s how he rolls Is it possible that he might have some Thai lenniage. ?? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, natway09 said: The worlds Policeman at it again. Blame game ,,,,childrens stuff He would do better keeping his eyes on his own plate which is in a terrible state with all the bickering & lacking countrywide strong direction Suggestions ! While Mr. Trump is fighting all the opposition to his efforts in the CV crisis ,the whole world of critics are pinning the blame on anything that begins with T and ends with P imop .The WHO has a lot of explaining to do! A rational person would see that! imop 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: There should be a major inquiry into him ASAP. Ground breaking idea there. Don't worry Schiff is on the case. I am sure they will get him this time LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaJames Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Dap said: Could someone (in the know) please tell me what President Trump's credentials are of ... anything??? A simple question only requires a simple answer. What are his credentials? that make him so much smarter and more experienced than the professionals in anything but A television show muppet and properties landlord? Please, list his credentials. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 minute ago, PattayaJames said: Ground breaking idea there. Don't worry Schiff is on the case. I am sure they will get him this time LOL Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he is innocent. Remember O.J.? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 He criticize WHO, UN, Climate Change, TPP, NATO, EU. Did I miss out any others? He is just a serial criticizer. No much substance in his criticism. Just that none of the above stroke his fragile ego & defend his shortcoming like his ardent supporters. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, riclag said: "Now architects of the NSC reorganization are speaking out, defending the White House’s decision by arguing that they merely streamlined a bloated organization and put pandemic and bioweapons experts in the same room, a move that was tested in real time by the 2018 upsurge in cases of the Ebola haemorrhagic fever in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Former officials say that the outbreak has been largely defeated, proof that the current White House can readily respond to such threats if given enough warning. They instead blame China, claiming the country waited weeks, if not months, to warn the world early enough to stop the spread of COVID-19" https://time.com/5806558/administration-officials-fight-criticism/ 180 countries including the USA relied on the WHO who was using China's facts in early January! As I said backwards and forwards. No surprise trump appointees are defending him is it. May be so, but WHO updated advisories as info came to hand. Read the mid Feb WHO report. In the meantime lets hear from you your defence on why trump administration ignored US intelligence reports of the threat of Covid spread in late 2019 / early 2020. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/intelligence-report-warned-coronavirus-crisis-early-november-sources/story?id=70031273 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, riclag said: Suggestions ! While Mr. Trump is fighting all the opposition to his efforts in the CV crisis ,the whole world of critics are pinning the blame on anything that begins with T and ends with P imop .The WHO has a lot of explaining to do! A rational person would see that! imop Most of the rest of the known world, do not give a rats about Trump. and his incompetence with the exception of compassion for the number of dead and ill, soon about to overtake the rest of the known world. The exception being that the populace in general are breathing a sigh of relief he is not in their country. The world does not want GM or Trump. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Pity the USA is cursed with such a gigantic idiot like Trump. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonThani Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Most of the rest of the known world, do not give a rats about Trump. and his incompetence with the exception of compassion for the number of dead and ill, soon about to overtake the rest of the known world. The exception being that the populace in general are breathing a sigh of relief he is not in their country. The world does not want GM or Trump. Trump would be great in Europe or Aus or NZ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PattayaJames Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he is innocent. Says it all really. Orange Man Bad. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, Dap said: Could someone (in the know) please tell me what President Trump's credentials are of ... anything??? A simple question only requires a simple answer. What are his credentials? that make him so much smarter and more experienced than the professionals in anything but A television show muppet and properties landlord? Please, list his credentials. Ask thoswe, who voted for him and again, rejected an impeachment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said: Obfuscation, deflection and down right lies. Some things never change. Hopefully in November ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 hours ago, RoadWarrior371 said: The 'experts' that did not declare a Pandemic until the middle of March? Ok, release suction now and step away from the w.ho. ???? 2 hours ago, stevenl said: WHO told many things, and took this imo too lightly. However after they changed their position and called it a major health threat it took trump 1.5 months to call it a pandemic, in the mean time calling it under control, a flu, etc. So yes, trump bears responsibility for this being a bigger disaster than was necessary. And yes, calling out the WHO on this is hypocritical. Didn’t Trump declare publicly that he knew it was a pandemic before the WHO declared it as one? I believe it was from one of his TV rallies press briefings 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gweiloman said: Didn’t Trump declare publicly that he knew it was a pandemic before the WHO declared it as one? I believe it was from one of his TV rallies press briefings Moot point for the families of the 10s of thousands of dead, and the unacceptable number currently in hospitals who may never fully recover, sheer ego driven arrogance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chiphigh Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 And the tvf anti Trumpers will defend this corrupt agency and the stooge who is running it, and defend the lying duplicitous Chinese as well, because they have to bash the president regardless of the reality. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Redoubt Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 Absolutely 100% the truth; has just been stated. And, all of the pathetic weak and envious morons and trolls incapable of thinking objectively based upon actual facts, and who just hate for DJT to be correct, successful, patriotic to his own nation, proud and popular with anyone at all, after all is said and done are having their blood pressures to through the roof again! Relax! Have some more drinks and cigarettes!! Inhale deeply, because he is not yet finished. And, to those who know how to understand the historic perspective of a dynamic and pragmatic leader with exemplary human qualities and strengths, this entire part of our living history is fantastic to behold. Certainly these hoards just remain quiet and watch from the sidelines as the circus moves about the rings. 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiphigh Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, pacovl46 said: Wasn’t it Trump who said Covid19 is a hoax? Not at all, but the media tried to tell it that way. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Posts containing unattributed content that was copy and pasted from site has been removed. Please provide a valid link to the source of information even if it is from Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlinclaifornia Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 6 hours ago, chokrai said: ABC New York Times ..Fake news. I always ask posts such as this for there sources and yet to have a response! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tgcoll Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 God bless President Donald T. for his good work, and all your enemies will be looking and see u go again 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiphigh Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 48 minutes ago, puipuitom said: Pity the USA is cursed with such a gigantic idiot like Trump. Get ready for another 4 years of perpetual irrational outrage boy.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta408 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 During 2009/2010, then Head of the WHO, Margaret Chan called a pandemic for the, "when pig's fly virus" which turned out to be a total cock-up. Now, to date, those who have died do not outnumber the deaths last year of only the Americans who died from influenza. So is this a pandemic when deaths of flu in country outnumber the world's deaths from Covid which includes: flu, pulmonary disease, respiratory disease and influenza. Go figure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, Chiphigh said: And the tvf anti Trumpers will defend this corrupt agency and the stooge who is running it, and defend the lying duplicitous Chinese as well, because they have to bash the president regardless of the reality. Not much WHO and China defense here, mainly criticism of Trump. And those 2 are not the same, all 3 rightly deserve criticism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Isaan sailor Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 WHO indeed is in China’s pocket. And US should cut off all funding immediately. Let China pick up the slack. Let WHO become a direct subsidy of the CCP. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post earlinclaifornia Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 35 minutes ago, pacovl46 said: Wasn’t it Trump who said Covid19 is a hoax? He did say it was a Democrats Hoax, yes. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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