Maybole Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 The search function returns nil entries, if there is an existing thread please attach this to it. A Question for the Medical Experts. I received a BCG Tuberculosis inoculation in my teens 50+ years ago and about 8 years ago was also inoculated against Pneumonia. I read that BCG affords some protection against Covid-19, how true is that and will it still be effective ? Also deaths from Covid-19 seem to occur after the onset of Pneumonia. Will my inoculation help to protect me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 The pneumonia jab is for bacterial pneumonia, the Corona is viral pneumonia so no use sadly except will hopefully prevent you getting both 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/08/bcg-jabs-mean-six-times-less-likely-get-coronavirus-study-finds/?fbclid=IwAR1TDVJTINR_PBQO1IOqruF8vTXdGr-YvrcV9pyM7WxJ-RmUcxuFwI9NX_Q Could be grasping at straws but great if proves to help some with immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Moved to the Health and Medicine Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sheryl Posted April 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2020 What is known at this time is that there countries where COVID infections are inexplicably low tend to be ones where thete is roitine nationwide BCG immunization in childhhod. There is a strong statistical correllation but that in itself does not prove causation. Studies are underway. So the answer to your first question is: maybe As for the second question the pneumonia vaccine protects only against certain types of bacterial pneumonia. Not COVID. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 Many thanks, I live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nip Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I listened to this very subject on the radio last week. At present there are labs in the UK & Ireland working together to check to see if indeed the BCG can provide an answer cos there is evidence that it might? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxx Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 17 hours ago, Sheryl said: There is a strong statistical correllation But one based upon poor analysis, at least according to Prof Madhukar Pai, MD, PhD, Canada Research Chair in Translational Epidemiology & Global Health, Director, McGill Global Health Programs & Director, McGill International TB Centre. With that background, I think his opinion is worth serious consideration. https://www.forbes.com/sites/madhukarpai/2020/04/12/bcg-against-coronavirus-less-hype-and-more-evidence-please/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgMech Cowboy Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Nice thread. Thanks for this bit if info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Every anomaly in incidence/mortality might be worth analyzing, but a first-pass screening of any suggested correlation between nations-with-higher and nations-with-lower rates based on any specific childhood intervention ... would, first, need to consider/exclude obvious macro factors like level of health care in general, demographics (population density), poverty, etc. Given the need to focus limited funds for epidemiological research in the current crisis, many other interesting anomalies may not be followed up on. "Beware the siren song of low-hanging fruit," my statistics professor once said to me ???? ~o:37; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 In the UK at the moment the media is banging on about greater deaths from black and Asian people, they seem to be relating it to poverty / more pre existing health conditions such as diabetes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickudon Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I do not think BCG makes much differennce. In the UK nearly everyone is vaccinated for it while at school - they have done it for at least 60 years, hasn't helped! Yes, black and South Asians have suffered more. They tend to have more age related health problems, and they also overwhelmingly work in public facing occupations - health workers, transport, shops so are more likely to become infected. Also as more urbanised more likely to live in crowded homes. So a triple whammy for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, scubascuba3 said: In the UK at the moment the media is banging on about greater deaths from black and Asian people, they seem to be relating it to poverty / more pre existing health conditions such as diabetes Wow - what a revelation: the poor suffer more sickness than anybody else. Who said investigative journalism is dead? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, rickudon said: I do not think BCG makes much difference. In the UK nearly everyone is vaccinated for it while at school - they have done it for at least 60 years, hasn't helped! I thought the UK had stopped giving routine BCG vaccinations so I checked. The policy to vaccinate schoolchildren aged 10-14 was discontinued in 2005. Still, that means the majority of people above their mid-20's in the UK, should have had the vaccination. And yet the UK is in the top ten of the worst-affected countries for both total coronavirus deaths and deaths per million people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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