Thais in Pattaya forced to sell belongings to buy food

[OnTheGround]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

Thais like to have nice things. Houses, posh cars, designer clothes and accessories, send their children to expensive schools, etc etc etc.

 

All part of the "face" culture. And generally, unfortunately, look down on those perceived not able to keep up with the latest trends.

 

The reality is a lot of that is financed on credit, expensive monthly repayments, and relies on income. Many good earners will suddenly find they're in big cash flow problems.

Few months ago news reported average household debt in Thailand was +- 380,000

 

I guess many of Pattaya local residents live day by day, or week by week. Those still in the city are desperate, how to pay food, and next months rent. Some apartments reduced their rent, still many can't pay. They hoped that things would be back to normal 01 May. Now they know better.

 

A little kindness from us who are still here, to our regular motor taxi driver, laundry shop etc can make a big difference for them, in this very difficult time. 

[19DL86]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Good to see another self announced very rich farang licking his lips in anticipation of getting some good deals out of the crisis at the expense of the poor!

 

Reminds me of Harry Enfield's "Loadsamoney" character; or the obnoxious rich Brummie character.

Yep you got me absolutely summed up correct.  SHAMLESS too.

Wouldn't go as far as "very rich", but very comfortable not worked a day since I was 46, retired here in a good lifestyle.

 

But this is way too easy getting you lot to bite ????

[Number 6]

Very sad

 

Will be an army of these people and the hardships really haven't even started.

 

Selling their tv for a few hundred baht...

[Number 6]

2 hours ago, scotsdude said:

The ratio of fresh to recycled air in a plane is 50-50 percent, and two things happen with recirculated air: Some air is dumped overboard while the remainder is pumped through HEPA air filters, which remove more than 99 percent of all contaminants, including bacteriologic agents.

I'm never seriously ill but I'll be damned if I don't end up with a slight cold every time I fly to States.

 

Regardless of all that magic machinery I guess.

[fredwiggy]

Planned on going back in October to visit family and fish and hunt. Hopefully by then travel internationally will be back to "normal". Rarely sick here also but last time I flew from here through japan, a Japanese man was sneezing and coughing all the 12 hours on the flight. Of course I had a cold withing a couple of days of returning to Texas.

[paulikens]

On 4/13/2020 at 5:25 AM, Liverpoolfan said:

Tourists won't be going back to Pattaya anytime soon.

Think around 18-24 month ball park figure.

Even then I think they will be thin on the ground.

 

Might be a good idea to get the old fish nets out again! 

and you base that on what?

[moontang]

There have been numerous lawsuits against both airbus and boeing by flight crews regarding the air recirculation..diesel fumes are common in the cabin..but hey, it works on paper, kind of like a mercedes diesel.

[bodymassagemyfriend]

On 4/13/2020 at 7:28 AM, Liverpoolfan said:

what does Pattaya have that you can't get anywhere else in the world only cheaper?

I've never seen the attraction of the place myself.

Walking street is like hell on earth to me.

It can takes monthes to restart airline traffic.

If held for too long ( 2 monthes for AF ) ,pilots are loosing their license and need to pass them again to be allowed to fly...

Edited April 14, 2020 by bodymassagemyfriend

[gk10002000]

As is always the case, the lower economic classes are and will get hammered by this shutdown.  They had no reserves.  They lived day to day, week to week and many had debts and loans before this mess. 

[gk10002000]

56 minutes ago, bodymassagemyfriend said:

It can takes monthes to restart airline traffic.

If held for too long ( 2 monthes for AF ) ,pilots are loosing their license and need to pass them again to be allowed to fly...

I do not know the number of  hours large airline pilots need in a given year to remain certified or proficient, but you bring up a good point.

[3NUMBAS]

many folks are selling assets to put food on the table .this will be common in the coming months .expect the classic car market to collapse as money dries up ..ferraris will be dirt cheap in a few months

[3NUMBAS]

5 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

I do not know the number of  hours large airline pilots need in a given year to remain certified or proficient, but you bring up a good point.

rolls royce may not be able to service the engines or parts available .not sure if their real time monitoring of planes in flight will be working

[wilscoop]

On 4/13/2020 at 11:54 AM, steven100 said:

The pawn shops will be having a field day. I suspect everyone will want to get in early to porn as much stuff as they can because I bet they will stop taking goods after a week or two. 

Yes 'porn' is another option.

[owl sees all]

40 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

many folks are selling assets to put food on the table .this will be common in the coming months .expect the classic car market to collapse as money dries up ..ferraris will be dirt cheap in a few months

Can a tow-bar be easily fitted to a Ferrari?

 

I quite fancy towing a cart across the farm in one.

Edited April 14, 2020 by owl sees all

[coastguard]

My lady says the Thai are joking that the virus is eating their gold rings and necklaces now, and will come for their car and house soon.

[19DL86]

1 hour ago, gk10002000 said:

I do not know the number of  hours large airline pilots need in a given year to remain certified or proficient, but you bring up a good point.

Maybe Simulator hours can be considered as hours behind the "stick" - I'm not sure but think it might be.

 

Also all those grounded A/C will need to go through a return to service maintenance program, many that might have been old neglected or at the end of a service cycle will not be re entering service.

 

Just storage or parking fees at airports isn't cheap. Big down turn in this area of the economy, plus lots of operators will be filing Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection by June.  Drastically reducing competition in the market once normality returns. So huge increase in airfares.

Edited April 14, 2020 by 19DL86

[473geo]

2 hours ago, bodymassagemyfriend said:

It can takes monthes to restart airline traffic.

If held for too long ( 2 monthes for AF ) ,pilots are loosing their license and need to pass them again to be allowed to fly...

Why do you think Europe is looking to relax things a little already, they will not be oblivious to timescales involved regarding economic viability. Instances such as this are more likely to weigh on the side of lifting stringent controls than keeping them in place

[wilscoop]

On 4/13/2020 at 1:06 PM, smedly said:

I have a lodger these last 10 days - she had no money and no food 

Can you keep us posted in a separate thread? Seriously - it's an admirable thing to do. Many others might like insight into how viable it is.

 

Crocy

[Bastos60]

On 4/13/2020 at 6:25 AM, Liverpoolfan said:

Tourists won't be going back to Pattaya anytime soon.

Think around 18-24 month ball park figure.

Even then I think they will be thin on the ground.

 

Might be a good idea to get the old fish nets out again! 

Nonsense, It might take maximum 6 months before Pattaya is in full swing again, after they lift the travel restrictions. 
But how eager are the girls going to be to go work in Pattaya in bars and restaurants?

 

 

[Bastos60]

6 hours ago, bodymassagemyfriend said:

It can takes monthes to restart airline traffic.

If held for too long ( 2 monthes for AF ) ,pilots are loosing their license and need to pass them again to be allowed to fly...

Pilots only lose their license if they not fly for a number of months, but these airlines have sufficient means to have these pilots fly so they can keep their licenses.

[Bangkokazy]

I laugh all day and feed the little birds in the garden
and laughing at them hungry Thai outside the wall.

[Danny Australia]

On 4/13/2020 at 3:38 PM, bontang said:

Mate I have a big storage building on the darkside of Pattaya City drop me a  PM.

Good on you mate, I am in Pattaya and happy to give you a hand.

[torturedsole]

25 minutes ago, Bangkokazy said:

I laugh all day and feed the little birds in the garden
and laughing at them hungry Thai outside the wall.

Maybe I'm having a sense of humour failure or something, but I'm not sure laughing at impoverished people in their time of need is most appropriate.  I wouldn't see my worst enemy go hungry.  I much prefer to feed him and give him grief at a later, more appropriate, date.  ????

[androokery]

On 4/13/2020 at 1:04 PM, 19DL86 said:

   22 minutes ago,  stuandjulie said:

Charming.

 

There are always paracistes around

 

 

Well I ll give you a lesson, as it seems you need a few.  Before you start ridiculing and pontificating, throwing out insults.......learn to spell.  It's "parasite"!!

 

Secondly to you and all those others who seemed to take exception to my rather crude, but disposable remark.  Get your hands in your pockets and help these people out, if this is how you feel.  In the mean time I ll shop round for a car that is heavily discounted due to people losing their income.

 

Most of you sat there wringing your liberal socialist hands in dispair, might be the same folk who ripped another ass into those 2 Brits and their young family, who fell upon desperate time 2 weeks ago in Koh Pangang.

 

If you think all this is unfair or unjust - I ll show you that there's nothing fair to just in society.  A good part my income comes from two council properties I bought in the 1990s from the local authority, heavily discounted.  They cost me barely a years pay.  Today they're valued at nearly £500k. And earning me nearly £2000 a month leased out to the very same council who sold them to me, and have been for years.

 

I m not a parasite I am an astute businessman.  GET OVER IT.

I know nothing about you except what you’re stating here. And I have two comments. 

1. Those who live in glass houses should work on their spelling too.

2. If you live on the business you describe here you are the very definition of a parasite. You can be an “astute businessman” and a parasite at the same time, the terms are not mutually exclusive. 

Edited April 14, 2020 by androokery
Clarification

[Bangkokazy]

12 minutes ago, torturedsole said:

Maybe I'm having a sense of humour failure or something, but I'm not sure laughing at impoverished people in their time of need is most appropriate.  I wouldn't see my worst enemy go hungry.  I much prefer to feed him and give him grief at a later, more appropriate, date.  ????

I've lived in Thailand for 15 years and never got anything for free. That's why I laugh all day
and throws bread crumbs over the wall

[RedPill]

10 minutes ago, Bangkokazy said:

I've lived in Thailand for 15 years and never got anything for free. That's why I laugh all day
and throws bread crumbs over the wall

Why should a Norwegian guy even expect to get anything for free in Thailand, since 15 years?

 

What is it you are looking for to get for free?

 

Strange posts of yours, but just my opinion.

 

So far, most Norwegians I've met in my life, were all well off and taken good care by their country.

 

I know booz is not for free in Norway though ...

 

Edited April 14, 2020 by RedPill

[RJRS1301]

8 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

I do not know the number of  hours large airline pilots need in a given year to remain certified or proficient, but you bring up a good point.

Not only the pilots, but the aircraft is not like a car jump in and start. The engines will need to be fully checked for safety before attempting to fire them up. 

Edited April 14, 2020 by RJRS1301

[gk10002000]

39 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

Not only the pilots, but the aircraft is not like a car jump in and start. The engines will need to be fully checked for safety before attempting to fire them up. 

Oh yeah.  I just finished working on the X-47B UAV and did an engine run which we have to do periodically to keep things healthy as well as check and drain and fill hydraulics, service emergency Nitrogen pressurization bottles, etc.  Have to do it for both vetted maintenance reasons and for warranty reasons. Pratt Whitney who makes our engine will wash their hands of us if we don't treat the engine properly.

[Hoppyone]

On 4/13/2020 at 12:21 PM, time2093 said:

How did you get those figures????.....I see it as soon as the major restrictions have lifted on foreigners and airlines can resume flying like before as nobody knows how long it could take, but as soon is the lights are turned on again in Pattaya the flood gates will be opened to the Chinese, Indians like no tomorrow.

I reckon it was good educated guess ,as nothing going to be back to normal until a vaccine is found ,as all the experts are saying at least 12 months or more once a vaccine is discovered 

[jacko45k]

10 hours ago, coastguard said:

My lady says the Thai are joking that the virus is eating their gold rings and necklaces now, and will come for their car and house soon.

Very much so... my Mrs watching Thai TV last night showing the large queues at gold shops as what I presume are actually wealthier locals, were selling off their jewelry. 

Many do not have it to sell. 

Edited April 14, 2020 by jacko45k