Booze industry urges govt to lift prohibition

[steven100]

1 hour ago, sungod said:

The big breweries have some clout, or at least their owners do.....Lets hope they are in favour

Lets hope Khun Prayut see's the light on this one ...  cheers

[zoza]

3 minutes ago, zoza said:

its already done i hear booked two flights an hour ago

does no one know next legal beer until June at the earliest, i thought it was understandable with

songkhran but didn't that stop about the twenty first of April?  very hard to follow the reasons

as usual? 

[ratcatcher]

Here's a new word for Rooster's Scrabble games.     "banboozled"   When the government tells you that a ban on Songkran alcohol sales is in effect and then doesn't lift the ban until  H.M. the Queen's birthday.

[Muzzique]

49 minutes ago, wordchild said:

In what sense has it "worked"?

The number of emergency A&E cases that were alcohol related have fallen from 40% to around 15% which has freed up much needed emergency medical staff and beds. This ban is likely to continue well into the summer/autumn so get used to it. 

 

If the government didn't hide the true virus figures you would see why it is needed. Thailand is in a deep hole at the moment with CV19. You can probably tell this from the severity of the lock down against so few cases reported, the size of the mismatch.

 

The issuing of doctored figures is designed to prevent civil unrest. This is probably the best way for everyone's safety including yours.

 

So just sip on your iced tea and enjoy the rest. We should see things easing off by October hopefully.

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, madmitch said:

I read another article a few minute ago where Anutin stated that he won't consider lifting the ban. The link is here. https://www.thaienquirer.com/12365/anutin-denies-request-by-vendors-to-partially-open-alcohol-sales/ Not sure if links to the Thai Enquirer are allowed. This does not make good reading but as the guy has made more u-turns than the average Thai pickup driver then I wouldn't read too much into it.

Reading the article this fool says that the sale of alcohol is too risky and we'll have to wait until a vaccine is produced. Well what can you say. A vaccine if there ever is one is at least 18 months off. This guys mouth just runs by itself because there's nothing between his ears to control it. I also thought it was the govenors of the provinces that imposed their own ban and not the govt.

[rkidlad]

1 hour ago, madmitch said:

I read another article a few minute ago where Anutin stated that he won't consider lifting the ban. The link is here. https://www.thaienquirer.com/12365/anutin-denies-request-by-vendors-to-partially-open-alcohol-sales/ Not sure if links to the Thai Enquirer are allowed. This does not make good reading but as the guy has made more u-turns than the average Thai pickup driver then I wouldn't read too much into it.

Aww, I think it's cute that Anutin actually thinks the ban is up to him. 

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, OneeyedJohn said:

My wife wife got 2 cases of beer today from the Mom 'n Pop shop I have always patronised.

Any extension of the ban will simply not work because people will not put up with it, and by people I mean both the customers, and the retailers.

 

To give an example, our village is just one of 25 in a small jurisdiction outside of Chiang Rai, There are hundreds if not thousands of other villages like ours in the province as a whole.

The wholesaler in our village has a warehouse where he can store 100's upon 100's of cases of beer all on pallets.

Where I've been getting my beer from has run out. There are no deliveries as mentioned in the article.

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, Muzzique said:

The number of emergency A&E cases that were alcohol related have fallen from 40% to around 15% which has freed up much needed emergency medical staff and beds. This ban is likely to continue well into the summer/autumn so get used to it. 

 

If the government didn't hide the true virus figures you would see why it is needed. Thailand is in a deep hole at the moment with CV19. You can probably tell this from the severity of the lock down against so few cases reported, the size of the mismatch.

 

The issuing of doctored figures is designed to prevent civil unrest. This is probably the best way for everyone's safety including yours.

 

So just sip on your iced tea and enjoy the rest. We should see things easing off by October hopefully.

Since when has the government been bothered about its citizens safety,???????? its all about money and the shops will be selling booze on the first of May. Stop spreading alarm and despondancy.????

[izod10]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

I hope Leo, Chang and Singha are banned permanently and only allow sales of Cheers and Tiger.

All Thai beer is utterly dreadful,drink it frozen to kill the taste. Heineken  brewed in Thailand tastes totally different to European stuff,its rough stuff

[Oldie]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

Since when has the government been bothered about its citizens safety,???????? its all about money and the shops will be selling booze on the first of May. Stop spreading alarm and despondancy.????

I don't see it like this. It for sure wasn't easy for them to lock down the whole night life and to ban alcohol - didn't make them many friends. But despite of this they did it. Some western governments could learn something. There they are often too scared of powerful lobbies and are just slaves of them. 

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, Oldie said:

I don't see it like this. It for sure wasn't easy for them to lock down the whole night life and to ban alcohol - didn't make them many friends. But despite of this they did it. Some western governments could learn something. There they are often too scared of powerful lobbies and are just slaves of them. 

Well we have only 3 days to put an end to all this speculation, but it is the waiting that is the worst, every minute feels like an hour, every hour feels like a day, every day feels like a week, ahhh, I going mad, I can't stand it any longer, why are they doing this to us. I want to be able to buy beer!

[Dmaxdan]

21 minutes ago, Muzzique said:

The number of emergency A&E cases that were alcohol related have fallen from 40% to around 15% which has freed up much needed emergency medical staff and beds. This ban is likely to continue well into the summer/autumn so get used to it. 

 

If the government didn't hide the true virus figures you would see why it is needed. Thailand is in a deep hole at the moment with CV19. You can probably tell this from the severity of the lock down against so few cases reported, the size of the mismatch.

 

The issuing of doctored figures is designed to prevent civil unrest. This is probably the best way for everyone's safety including yours.

 

So just sip on your iced tea and enjoy the rest. We should see things easing off by October hopefully.

And what of the thousands of people whose livelyhoods depend on sales and distribution of alcohol? And the billions of baht that the government rakes in every year from the tax on alcohol sales? Whatever the decision the government decide on has to focus on the bigger picture. 

 

 

[OneeyedJohn]

I am beginning to have nightmarish dreams of a world without beer, waking up to see the fridge completely bereft of beer, 30 + cases of empty beer bottles in my kitchen, and my wife despairing at the lack of Hong Tong.

Do I feel sorry for her or does she feel sorry for me, these are desperate times.

[HaoleBoy]

16 minutes ago, Oldie said:

I don't see it like this. It for sure wasn't easy for them to lock down the whole night life and to ban alcohol - didn't make them many friends. But despite of this they did it. Some western governments could learn something. There they are often too scared of powerful lobbies and are just slaves of them. 

If you don't drink alcohol just stay out of the conversation.

In western countries there are so many small craft breweries - i.e., small business owners - that a ban would put even more people out of work.  A lot of these smaller breweries are not doing well at the moment due to no restaurants open.  Restaurants is where the bulk of their sales goes.

In California they actually opened up restrictions on alcohol realizing that it is a coping mechanism for many especially in lockdown mode.

 

BTW:  Nightlife and alcohol ban are 2 different things.  The alcohol ban can be lifted without opening up the Nightlife areas (for farangs).

Edited April 27, 2020 by HaoleBoy

[Oldie]

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

Well we have only 3 days to put an end to all this speculation, but it is the waiting that is the worst, every minute feels like an hour, every hour feels like a day, every day feels like a week, ahhh, I going mad, I can't stand it any longer, why are they doing this to us. I want to be able to buy beer!

I understand you and despite I was convinced that the alcohol ban will come here in Pattaya I did not stock up. I wanted to go through this experience. The first 10 days were not easy. But now I don't miss my cold beers anymore and even lost 2 kilos. I am worried already what will happen with me if they lift the alcohol ban... Can I continue without alcohol??? I would like but I am not sure ????

[GreasyFingers]

17 minutes ago, vogie said:

Well we have only 3 days to put an end to all this speculation, but it is the waiting that is the worst, every minute feels like an hour, every hour feels like a day, every day feels like a week, ahhh, I going mad, I can't stand it any longer, why are they doing this to us. I want to be able to buy beer!

Sounds like that Leo is looking pretty good now.

[lee b]

get in there.

[Oldie]

3 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

Sounds like that Leo is looking pretty good now.

Before he wrote this below. Perhaps he regrets it already ???? 

 

"In all fairness I did find a can of Leo in my fridge, and although desperation is setting in, I had to pour it down the sink after I remembered what it tastes like." 

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, vogie said:

I hope Leo, Chang and Singha are banned permanently and only allow sales of Cheers and Tiger.

What are your thoughts on Archa?

[vogie]

12 minutes ago, Oldie said:

I understand you and despite I was convinced that the alcohol ban will come here in Pattaya I did not stock up. I wanted to go through this experience. The first 10 days were not easy. But now I don't miss my cold beers anymore and even lost 2 kilos. I am worried already what will happen with me if they lift the alcohol ban... Can I continue without alcohol??? I would like but I am not sure ????

Well done for probably coping with the ban better than some, but at the end of the day it is all about freedom of choice, governments should always be kept a close eye on and not try to restrict what people can buy or cannot buy, whatever the case may be. I drink at the most 2 beers a day, but it is nice to have that choice to do so, I know that some people abuse freedom of choice but those that don't should not suffer because of those irresponsable people.

I can just imagine the outcry on here from the temperance seven if the government banned Horlicks or Ovaltine, there would be no living with them.????

[Lacessit]

2 minutes ago, Oldie said:

Before he wrote this below. Perhaps he regrets it already ???? 

 

"In all fairness I did find a can of Leo in my fridge, and although desperation is setting in, I had to pour it down the sink after I remembered what it tastes like." 

I've heard of wine snobs, didn't think it was possible to have beer snobs too.

[Davo369]

52 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Reading the article this fool says that the sale of alcohol is too risky and we'll have to wait until a vaccine is produced. Well what can you say. A vaccine if there ever is one is at least 18 months off. This guys mouth just runs by itself because there's nothing between his ears to control it. I also thought it was the govenors of the provinces that imposed their own ban and not the govt.

Well, if that's the case I won't be seeing the wife for a long time ????

[GreasyFingers]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

What are your thoughts on Archa?

Cheap charlie, but must admit i have never tried it. My choice, if i can find it, is Tapper @ 6.5%

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

What are your thoughts on Archa?

I think I tried it once, it was that long ago I have forgotten what it tasted like, but Cheers XTra is more to my taste.

[GreasyFingers]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

I can just imagine the outcry on here from the temperance seven if the government banned Horlicks or Ovaltine, there would be no living with them.

Or the coffee they call 3 in 1.

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I've heard of wine snobs, didn't think it was possible to have beer snobs too.

Are classing Leo as beer?

[Lacessit]

Just now, GreasyFingers said:

Cheap charlie, but must admit i have never tried it. My choice, if i can find it, is Tapper @ 6.5%

I can't pick the difference between Archa, Leo or Chang. Singha gives me a headache. I guess I don't have the refined palate one needs for beer.

[Lacessit]

Just now, vogie said:

Are classing Leo as beer?

I'm Australian, we drink our beer cold in a hot country. Perhaps if I could suppress my gag reflex long enough, I could drink beers warm to see if there's a taste difference.

[Oldie]

2 minutes ago, vogie said:

Are classing Leo as beer?

You have to focus on the alcohol and not on the taste. Then it is better than nothing ????

[GreasyFingers]

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I can't pick the difference between Archa, Leo or Chang. Singha gives me a headache. I guess I don't have the refined palate one needs for beer.

You know the old saying "any port in a storm". The same with beer.