Rise in curfew violations since Sunday amid warning booze ban could be reinstated

[petedk]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

so put them in jail for a few days .... they'll soon learn one way or the other

Unfortunately this is Thailand. They cannot enforce the law and punish the few that break it, so they make a nationwide ban.

I have seen similar situations at work many times. Can't punish one or two , so make life difficult for everyone. 

[tribalfusion001]

Curfew is no longer needed, most countries never imposed a one with a lockdown. And the threat of banning alcohol again is just treating it's citizens like children, but typical of the military mindset.

[GAZZPA]

1 minute ago, petedk said:

Unfortunately this is Thailand. They cannot enforce the law and punish the few that break it, so they make a nationwide ban.

I have seen similar situations at work many times. Can't punish one or two , so make life difficult for everyone. 

I think thats is rooted in the fact that Thais don't deal with confrontation well. So rather then isolate their attentions they punish everyone as you say. In the West we just deal directly with the source of the issue which I think is more sensible but you cannot teach Thais no matter what.

[HOAX]

Most of my friends are locals, so the ban on alcohol only really lasted for a couple of days when cops actually drove around threatening store owners, but ever since then alcohol has been flooding like any other day pretty much anywhere I have friends and family in Thailand (Udon Thani, Samut Prakan, Korat, Saraburi, Koh Phangan, Krabi and even border controlled provinces like Bueng Kan). For the last week or two nearly everyone is selling. I didn't even notice or hear anything about the ban being lifted. I`m assuming alcohol is sold everywhere else as well, if you just know who to ask.

 

Another thing I`ve noticed recently is how the availability of weed has exploded everywhere. Locals are growing and smoking (and chewing, and cooking) cannabis everywhere I`ve been the last weeks. In fact, it`s so much weed around that it`s all free for everyone, and even grandpas and aunties are chewing. People are just handing out or grabbing as they will. And its even pretty decent quality to be frank.

[GAZZPA]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

so put them in jail for a few days .... they'll soon learn one way or the other

I think you have been in Thailand too long for that to make sense to you. Do you break eggs with a hammer?

[Oldie]

6 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Curfew is no longer needed, most countries never imposed a one with a lockdown. And the threat of banning alcohol again is just treating it's citizens like children, but typical of the military mindset.

Some people behave like children if they drink alcohol. It can change critical thinking and normal behavior lot. In the end it is a drug. 

[tribalfusion001]

3 minutes ago, Oldie said:

Some people behave like children if they drink alcohol. It can change critical thinking and normal behavior lot. In the end it is a drug. 

It's called having fun!

[alant]

were more caught because more police were out looking?

[Chivas]

Just use the legislation provided bung them in the slammer for 6 months and plaster it across social media

99% will then take the hint....

[Catkiwi]

So, 129 people illegally congregating and 60% or 77 people drinking alcohol whilst doing so. Given around 70,000,000 population, that is around 1 in 909,000. Yes, big trouble looming....????. 5/8th's of <deleted> all.

[Chongalulu]

???? You’ve gotta fight,for your right,to paaaaaartey ! ???? 

[stephenterry]

1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said:

For most it is not about addiction, it is about freedom of choice.

Yeah, sure. Flying pigs. My freedom of choice is not to become infected by these irresponsible idiots. 

[HHTel]

16 minutes ago, Oldie said:

And the threat of banning alcohol again is just treating it's citizens like children, but typical of the military mindset.

What threat.  It's only been mentioned should infections rise.  Nowhere, except on ThaiVisa has there been a threat of reinstating the ban based on curfew or 'get together' violations.

[tribalfusion001]

1 minute ago, stephenterry said:

Yeah, sure. Flying pigs. My freedom of choice is not to become infected by these irresponsible idiots. 

How do you know that your not infected already and asymptomatic?

[mindfulness]

4 hours ago, BobbyL said:

So because around 75 people were arrested for congregating together to drink that means the rest of the adult population should be treated like children and are not allowed to have a beer at home? 

 

It’s called B S beasting 

[DirtyHarry55]

Probably more cases of the Virus from the Illegal boxing match at the Military Stadium but how many arrested for that?

[Postmaster]

Just because they can.

[stephenterry]

1 hour ago, jesimps said:

Maybe unlike you people just enjoy having a drink and don't trust this govt not to reimpose the booze ban. I certainly don't.

Would you rather be here with no booze and low risk of becoming infected, or in the USA or UK or EU with as much booze as you want and a high risk of death?

 

That's what this government is trying to achieve.  

[stouricks]

58 minutes ago, nivram4491 said:

Is not wearing a motorcycle helmet a deadly communicable disease?

No, neither is having a beer in the comfort of your own home.

Edited May 5, 2020 by stouricks

[jwest10]

4 hours ago, BobbyL said:

So because around 75 people were arrested for congregating together to drink that means the rest of the adult population should be treated like children and are not allowed to have a beer at home? 

 

Please make sure it you only and does not matter if someone comes around unexpectedly you can not offer them a beer. see the post on the Bangkok site on the right hand side

[stephenterry]

5 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

How do you know that your not infected already and asymptomatic?

Because I have a keen sense of smell - it's flowering jasmine time, and in my case self isolation in a low risk area and no high temperature. I surmise going out drinking with the lads would be a risk too far, IMO.

 

 

[samsensam]

4 hours ago, Mattd said:

I wish somebody would explain to me the logic behind the curfew in terms of COVID-19, what purpose does the curfew achieve in useful COVID control, other than reducing the opening hours of businesses that are normally open for 24 hours and therefore making these shops etc. busier during the shortened opening hours.

The only advantage I see it is that it possibly helps to reduce the criminal element.

Poppycock, there is absolutely no logical reasoning behind your statement.

Sunday saw masses of people rushing to buy alcohol, a minute percentage of those would have been alcoholics, the overwhelming majority did this purely because they do not trust the government to allow sales to continue and wanted to stock up, had there been no ban in the first place, then that situation would not have arisen. All this BS that no alcohol stops socialising, the locals continue to do this with or without booze, all they need is food and that will not stop regardless of what laws are put in place.

 

maybe it's because the authorities want to be seen to be doing something, but want to do something that most people wont care about i.e. because they are asleep.

 

[spidermike007]

There was a solid reason why Thailand was one of only two nations worldwide, which had a ban on alcohol. Total overkill. To re-instate this ban would be a heinous abuse of power. One new case overnight. Curfew is no longer required. Intelligence is required. On both the part of civilians and the brain dead army. 

[Nanaplaza666]

5 hours ago, fishtank said:

Please let us know of any intelligent reason for this action.

Because drinking alcohol makes people do things they normally don't do with a sober brain .

[maprao]

5 hours ago, OnTheGround said:

After out of work, out of money, stay home, alcohol ban, more curfew violators was highly expected imo.

 

Miscreants face 2 years in prison and/or fines of 40,000 baht. 

Again the penalty doesn't mirror the crime committed. 

 

Most Thais where I live would be hard pressed to muster 4000 yet alone 40,000.

 

Meanwhile commit ABH assault people 509 Baht fine. Or kill someone while they are on a round the world cycling trip through careless driving 7,000 baht. 

 

Disproportionate fines that are not commensurate with the laws being broken......never mind, head down keep going because when I was busy settling here while exploring temples and clean beaches I failed to conduct proper research...

[tribalfusion001]

14 minutes ago, stephenterry said:

Would you rather be here with no booze and low risk of becoming infected, or in the USA or UK or EU with as much booze as you want and a high risk of death?

 

That's what this government is trying to achieve.  

It's hardly a high risk of death in the UK unless you live in an ethnic minority part of London or the West Midlands enthic minority area or a care home. Funnily enough the majority of the UK don't live in the places.

[AussieinThaiJim]

Leave it a few weeks into the month. Then no money, no grog and no job! Then ban alcohol if the few idiots keep breaking curfew!

[Nanaplaza666]

17 hours ago, BobbyL said:

So because around 75 people were arrested for congregating together to drink that means the rest of the adult population should be treated like children and are not allowed to have a beer at home? 

 

Goes on all over the world , a few bad ones <deleted> it up for the rest . These are special times just hold on i geuss you can be without alcohol for a bit longer(or can't you?) 

[Kadilo]

4 hours ago, 4MyEgo said:

Well after waiting 10 minutes in Big C the other day to purchase the last two bottles of Vodka which I believe will last me two months, I am now going to Lotus to buy another 2.

 

The eggs, masks and sanitizer shortages were one thing which didn't really affect us, but no alcohol, surely this will happen again, because of it's all about me, myself and I syndrome, typically Thai males IMO ????

 

Better stock up people, i.e. if you haven't already because as my dad used to sing when I was a kid, sipping on his glass of Ouzo, "she'll be coming round the mountain when she comes", also playing his harmonica to the same tune. Talented man my dad, when he was pi$$ed.

 

You’re doing the exact same they are. Buying 4 months worth of Vodka then saying “it’s all about me, myself and I syndrome, typically Thai males” 

 

No doubt they will say it’s because all the ferangs are buying it up. 

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Thaivisa notes that the stats may fuel fears among Thailand's drinkers that bans will be reintroduced because some people are flouting the law

Why ban it for the majority who are abiding by the law...

Hammer the miscreants hard until they understand !