Rescue volunteer criticised for his treatment of accident victim

By The Nation

 

 

A rescue volunteer in Kalasin province has come under fire for trying to treat an injured accident victim -- despite being ill-qualified. The victim later died in a hospital.

 

Witnesses of the accident recorded footage on Wednesday night showing a man lying on the ground with broken limbs when a rescue volunteer arrives at the scene and bends his legs to his chest in order to fix them.

 

The footage showed several bystanders screaming, looking at the horrifying scene. However, another group of rescue volunteers arrived and took the victim in an ambulance to the hospital.

Netizens have criticised the volunteer’s actions before more qualified personnel could arrive.

 

The victim reportedly died in hospital but the National Institute for Emergency Medicine has ordered an investigation into the case.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30387447

 

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A rescue volunteer dressed in shorts and a tank top, me thinks he was just a wannabee, and he should be prosecuted for malfeasance, and acting outside of his scope of training, as it would appear he was not trained.... 

4 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

rescue volunteer arrives at the scene and bends his legs to his chest in order to fix them.

He FDW.???? This prat should be tarred ,feathered and road out of town on a rail

The rescue volunteer has since been hired at a day spa...

They rely on these 'Volunteer's' way too much when they should have a National Ambulance Service with properly trained Paramedic's.   Still; far better to spend money on useless Submarines that will barely ever leave Port !

 

These problems extend much further as we just learned recently that 'Village Volunteer's' who are paid a miserly amount every month to 'look after' old people in their Village's often administer injections and the like with no training whatsoever.

Will this country ever do things properly and move forward in a constructive way ?   Got a feeling it won't be happening for another Century or so !

Edited May 7, 20206 yr by trainman34014

There are so many different organizations, and they all receive billions of Thb in donations. They drive like madmen on the streets, and nobody is really qualified for this job - either as driver nor paramedic.

Then they "dump" the victims at the hospitals, and receive some kind of payment for their services.

Many of these organizations actually also arranges funerals, and are working closely with the main temples in all of Thailand's biggest provinces.

Most of these organizations are run by very very rich Thai-Chinese families from Bangkok.

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

A rescue volunteer dressed in shorts and a tank top, me thinks he was just a wannabee, and he should be prosecuted for malfeasance, and acting outside of his scope of training, as it would appear he was not trained.... 

P.S.   it's called manslaughter.

 

i dont know what training paramedics are given here, hopefully it's extensive. one main difference between paramedics in thailand and back home is how hyped up they seem. back home paramedics are cool calm and collected, calmly dealing with whatever situation they are facing. in thailand they often seem almost like adrenaline junkies whizzing around in their ambulances, pick ups or motorcycles.

Perhaps he simply wanted to make sure that the man's wallet and jewelry were properly "dealt with" before the rescue guys arrived.

No video so can't really check what he did and circumstances. He was trying to help, in most cases people just stare and get their phones out to video

I'd soon ask the grim ripper to rescue me rather than those "volunteers" vultures...

It's just an involuntary murder..

 

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

and took the victim in an ambulance to the hospital.

Awhile back at our place in the boonies of Phitsanulok province we had an ambulance show up. Why? To deliver some roofing supplies...

12 hours ago, trainman34014 said:

They rely on these 'Volunteer's' way too much when they should have a National Ambulance Service with properly trained Paramedic's.   Still; far better to spend money on useless Submarines that will barely ever leave Port !

 

These problems extend much further as we just learned recently that 'Village Volunteer's' who are paid a miserly amount every month to 'look after' old people in their Village's often administer injections and the like with no training whatsoever.

Will this country ever do things properly and move forward in a constructive way ?   Got a feeling it won't be happening for another Century or so !

My Thai nephews MIL died about 8 months ago in hospital in local upcountry isolated village. Hospital has 2 'doctors' who have recently been exposed as guys who 'want to be a doctor' but have no training at all.

 

Family heard some gossip and complained to a regional medical office, response: well it's OK because 'when the problem is serious they call a doctor in a bigger town and get suggestions'.

 

Turns out the nurses know these guys have no qualifications but nurses too frightened to speak up, but after the lady died it was one of the very upset nurses who then secretly told the family the doctors have no training. Family very angry and tried to find the 'doctor' who had attended the mother, he had fled. 

 

Before the lady died my son and his wife drove upcountry to visit the old lady, son is well respected and he asked one of the 'doctors' whether there was a doctor with specialist training in the area of medicine which my son is able to discuss in depth. Doctor feigned an answer and fled when a nurse was speaking to my son. Son told his relatives he had doubts whether the doctor was qualified. Typically nobody listened and son was scolded and told to have respect for doctors. (My son is a doctor and the family know this).

 

Yes perhaps a century before there's real change. 

Edited May 8, 20206 yr by scorecard

13 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

as it would appear he was not trained.... 

appear ? lol

 

you win the internet for today.

11 hours ago, Ian Nagle said:

P.S.   it's called manslaughter.

Do you know for a fact that the actions of this person led to death of the victim? Exacerbated any potentionally life threatening inguries? It's possible of course but there is nothing in the article to cooberate this. Just states later died in hospital. I know TIT but this is what autopsies are for not conjecturing posters on forums.

The glitter and faux modernism does not hide the ignorance, superstition and backward nature of people. That describes the uniformed creatures, and then there are the masses.

I don't know about Thailand, but in Germany you can end up in court for not giving first aid even when you are not qualified. You won't be prosecuted in case the person later dies.

12 hours ago, samsensam said:

i dont know what training paramedics are given here,

We have paramedics ?????

3 hours ago, missoura said:

 

Awhile back at our place in the boonies of Phitsanulok province we had an ambulance show up. Why? To deliver some roofing supplies...

You silly boy! Those are emergency stretchers, the gas tank on the left is to help victims breathe, and those are surgical gloves. The box of Leo is for transfusion.

14 minutes ago, Grusa said:

You silly boy! Those are emergency stretchers, the gas tank on the left is to help victims breathe, and those are surgical gloves. The box of Leo is for transfusion.

I thought that was the pre-barbeque transport. Have gas? Check. Have Extinguisher in case fire spreads? Check.  Have the tin to cover the deep pit for the barbeque? Check.  Final, Do we have the Leo for Celebrating?  Check, and double Check.  Then we can proceed........ 

The problem is we condemn this man for trying to help. Most people would ignore it and walk on by. Instead of condemning him, hear the full story. 

Every one is 'ill qualified' when it comes to first aid. Even medical doctors are mostly not trained in first aid.

Breathing, bleeding and broken bones. Get the person out of any dangerous places. Life before limb and all that.

Pretty shocking behaviour from the volunteer.

 

I've only dealt with these guys once, in January after being knocked off a motorbike in a hit and run and being left unconscious in the middle of the road with 6 broken bones and a torn rotator cuff.

 

They took me to hospital and took my bike to the police station where I collected it 2 days later. They'd gone through my wallet to find my medical card but there was nothing missing and they treated me pretty well in terms of getting me onto the stretcher and into the ambulance and back out once we arrived at hospital.

 

They did remove my helmet while I was unconscious (I actually regained consciousness while they were doing this) which could have caused issues if I had spinal injuries but in fairness they might have done that to check if I was breathing OK or had swallowed my tongue as the helmet was full face. Overall despite hearing the horror stories I was happy with the way they treated me, very grateful in fact.

3 hours ago, scorecard said:

Typically nobody listened and son was scolded and told to have respect for doctors.

This is the problem in Thailand, isn't it. A job title is supposed to be worthy of respect, not the person. Same with school teachers, who must be respected even when they beat and rape their students. Where I come from respect isn't a right, it has to be earned. Thailand must have one of the most rigid and destructive class systems in the world, although India might be a rival. I don't know.

3 hours ago, missoura said:

 

Awhile back at our place in the boonies of Phitsanulok province we had an ambulance show up. Why? To deliver some roofing supplies...

At least it arrived in one piece, unlike some patients.

Not sure what the D shackles are used for in an ambo

On the bright side he had a case of Leo for the quiet times

4 hours ago, missoura said:

 

Awhile back at our place in the boonies of Phitsanulok province we had an ambulance show up. Why? To deliver some roofing supplies...

Along with refreshments in the form of a case of Leo..............I wonder if that is standard equipment in an ambulance here.....

5 minutes ago, Grumpy one said:

At least it arrived in one piece, unlike some patients.

Not sure what the D shackles are used for in an ambo

On the bright side he had a case of Leo for the quiet times

Great minds think alike !!!!

16 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

A rescue volunteer dressed in shorts and a tank top, me thinks he was just a wannabee, and he should be prosecuted for malfeasance, and acting outside of his scope of training, as it would appear he was not trained.... 

And who's to blame ???. Common sense would tell you the government for not haven the proper ambulance system in place. Again they don't care about health and safety of their citizens.

1 hour ago, Grumpy one said:

Not sure what the D shackles are used for in an ambo

Used to stop the patient's stretcher sliding out of the ambulance?  (Training will be given). 

15 hours ago, rasmus5150 said:

Most of these organizations are run by very very rich Thai-Chinese families from Bangkok.

So?  What's the relevance?

Edited May 8, 20206 yr by Bob A Kneale