British minister says 'move on' from rage over PM adviser Cummings' road trip

[7by7]

11 hours ago, kingdong said:

As long as his one trick is getting us out of the eu,that,'ll do me.

 It will; but, apart from selling out the people of Northern Ireland, do not be surprised when Cummings' deal turns out to be to all intents and purposes identical to May's.

 

But this is not a Brexit topic; happy to discuss this further in a  topic on that subject if you wish.

[7by7]

3 hours ago, Loiner said:

Well it wasn't the minority who put Johnson into No.10 was it? Wait, no, Boris definitely won with a landslide.

A majority is greater than 50%

 

So if 50.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% had voted for the Tories then they would have received the majority of votes.

 

But that isn't what happened, 43.6% voted Tory, so they did not receive the majority of votes. 

 

If you still don't understand, I'm afraid I can't make it any simpler.

 

3 hours ago, Loiner said:

You keep twisting your percentages around to find one you like.

Nope, not twisting any percentages around; merely presenting the facts. If you don't believe me then those facts are easily verifiable. For example 2019 United Kingdom general election. But if that source is not to your taste, there are plenty more; all of which will say the same.

 

3 hours ago, Loiner said:

Then see if Boris moves out and your chosen loser is invited to take up residence.

It will be the winner who takes up residence in Number 10, not the loser. I will have no part in choosing that winner; that will be up to the Conservative party: Conservative Party leadership contests – how do they work? 

 

The only chance I and the rest of the country will have in choosing Johnson's replacement will be if the Tories are foolish enough to allow him to remain in office until the next General Election.

 

3 hours ago, Loiner said:

Nope, it's still the coalition of leftist Remainer metropolitan elite losers, who are not in charge anymore.

Haven't had a left wing government since 2010.

 

Metropolitan elite? Just like Johnson and Cummings!

[7by7]

On 5/28/2020 at 8:10 AM, jimmyswale said:

And then we have a 'genius' who alters his blog retrospectively to try and make himself look like a genius. How stupid is that ! And from someone who claims to be a digital genius to boot. ???? He gamed social media in the brief window when anyone with a bit of savvy could have done it , and err that's it and Johnson has nailed his flag to this pile of preposterous piffle.

 

https://fullfact.org/health/cummings-blog-coronavirus/

As usual, The Daily Mash have hit the spot on this: Cummings changes blog to say he guessed the twist in The Sixth Sense

 

(Warning, just in case there's someone here who hasn't seen it, the above link contains a massive Sixth Sense spoiler!)

Edited May 30, 2020 by 7by7
Addendum

[3NUMBAS]

the left wing papers wont let the story go ..they keep bleating ..but by the next election its history .kinnock never resigned so why should cummings ?

[kingdong]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 It will; but, apart from selling out the people of Northern Ireland, do not be surprised when Cummings' deal turns out to be to all intents and purposes identical to May's.

 

But this is not a Brexit topic; happy to discuss this further in a  topic on that subject if you wish.

Thanks,but not really into ancient history.

[nausea]

Really illustrates the difference between Thailand, which is a collective society, and the UK, where individuals can do what the f#@k they want. Certain people excluded, priviliges of rank, and all that.

[Loiner]

21 hours ago, 7by7 said:

The majority of the electorate did not put Johnson anywhere.

 

For starters only 67.3% of the electorate actually voted.

 

It's the people who did vote who are important here, though; not those who didn't.

 

Of those who did vote, 43.6% voted Conservative. 

 

In what school of maths is 43.6% a majority?

Yep, deffo the majority. That's how we do things and that's why we have Boris, not old has been Corbyn.

Have another count why dontcha?

[Loiner]

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 It will; but, apart from selling out the people of Northern Ireland, do not be surprised when Cummings' deal turns out to be to all intents and purposes identical to May's.

 

But this is not a Brexit topic; happy to discuss this further in a  topic on that subject if you wish.

If it wasn't Brexit related, Uncle Dom would be a unknown backroom nobody. He beat them at the referendum and that's why the lefties and Remainers are still banging on about him here.

[jimmyswale]

48 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

 

Good lord, no wonder Brexit won, when such badly informed, palpably toxic nonsense is considered as rational discourse. I am actually laughing because I know that my country, while inevitably battered by this stupidity, won't be dragged down that black hole you are praying for. But there are many good, decent English people who deserve so much better from their government now and for their and their children's future. It is, of course, a shame but if you elect lying, corrupt fascists, you have to expect a lying, corrupt dictatorship. 

I don't know why you engage with them tbh RR. Let them have their nonsensical jollies. Most unionist Scots are a cut above our home grown nationalists. They will learn soon enough what side their bread is buttered on when it no longer is. 

[3NUMBAS]

bojo will win again in 5 years time much to the annoyance of the jew hating labour party

[Rimmer]

Some off topic baiting and troll posts removed, also replies

[transam]

16 hours ago, 7by7 said:

A majority is greater than 50%

 

So if 50.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% had voted for the Tories then they would have received the majority of votes.

 

But that isn't what happened, 43.6% voted Tory, so they did not receive the majority of votes. 

 

If you still don't understand, I'm afraid I can't make it any simpler.

 

Nope, not twisting any percentages around; merely presenting the facts. If you don't believe me then those facts are easily verifiable. For example 2019 United Kingdom general election. But if that source is not to your taste, there are plenty more; all of which will say the same.

 

It will be the winner who takes up residence in Number 10, not the loser. I will have no part in choosing that winner; that will be up to the Conservative party: Conservative Party leadership contests – how do they work? 

 

The only chance I and the rest of the country will have in choosing Johnson's replacement will be if the Tories are foolish enough to allow him to remain in office until the next General Election.

 

Haven't had a left wing government since 2010.

 

Metropolitan elite? Just like Johnson and Cummings!

Lets twist again like we did last summer, lets twist again like we did last year.....????

[jimmyswale]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Lets twist again like we did last summer, lets twist again like we did last year.....????

As Tom Robinson sung It's Gonna Be a Long Hot Summer from now on ....and the youths are revolting...

Edited May 31, 2020 by jimmyswale

[vogie]

Labour MP Rosie Duffield who was complaing last week about Dominic Cummings breaking lockdown rules to look after a vunerable child, as herself been caught out breaking lockdown rules to meet her married lover, oh the hypocrisy. But the 'I hate Dom machine' will tell us this is different. ????????????????

[Loiner]

18 hours ago, 7by7 said:

A majority is greater than 50%

 

So if 50.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% had voted for the Tories then they would have received the majority of votes.

 

 

Well there you go. This is exactly how Dom brought us a Leave victory in the referendum. 

[RuamRudy]

18 minutes ago, vogie said:

Labour MP Rosie Duffield who was complaing last week about Dominic Cummings breaking lockdown rules to look after a vunerable child, as herself been caught out breaking lockdown rules to meet her married lover, oh the hypocrisy. But the 'I hate Dom machine' will tell us this is different. ????????????????

How about we sack and prosecute both of them? Although I want a much harsher sentence for cummings as he is partly responsible for needless deaths of thousands of people.

[evadgib]

44 minutes ago, vogie said:

Labour MP Rosie Duffield who was complaing last week about Dominic Cummings breaking lockdown rules to look after a vunerable child, as herself been caught out breaking lockdown rules to meet her married lover, oh the hypocrisy. But the 'I hate Dom machine' will tell us this is different. ????????????????

While conveniently overlooking the fact that;

 

a) She is an elected MP whereas Cummings is employed under entirely different terms and conditions and the 'failsafes' associated with whatever employment law those T&Cs adhere too.

 

b  ) She remains a backbench MP and is therefore still on the payroll. MSM & the Rhubarb Brigade on the other hand won't stop until Cummings picks up his P45.

 

c) Her personal life fell short of the standard expected of a party whip.

 

& all of the above is posted without 'defending' Cummings.

[evadgib]

53 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

How about we sack and prosecute both of them? Although I want a much harsher sentence for cummings as he is partly responsible for needless deaths of thousands of people.

Don't be silly RR. Virus deaths are natural causes no matter how you look at it. You're thinking of that plastic Scotsman known as Blair.

[Bruntoid]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Labour MP Rosie Duffield who was complaing last week about Dominic Cummings breaking lockdown rules to look after a vunerable child, as herself been caught out breaking lockdown rules to meet her married lover, oh the hypocrisy. But the 'I hate Dom machine' will tell us this is different. ????????????????

Not different - they should both be dismissed - you happy with that outcome ? Or would you prefer they are both allowed to flout the law ? 

 

A or B ? 

[Bruntoid]

I see old birthday girl herself Mrs Cummings story of events has now  blown a hole in Doms story - tut tut 
 

Shouldn't someone in Doms corner be throwing in a towel about now ? 

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, Bruntoid said:

Not different - they should both be dismissed - you happy with that outcome ? Or would you prefer they are both allowed to flout the law ? 

 

A or B ? 

I thought the police said Cummings had no case to answer, are you the judge and jury now, I think we should leave decissions on whether a man or woman is guilty or not to the relevant authorities and not start our own lynching party, judging someone because you don't like them is not how justice is served in the UK, as well you know.

[Bruntoid]

On 5/29/2020 at 7:28 PM, CG1 Blue said:

Cummings doesn't make the rules. The science and medical advisors make recommendations, the government use the recommendations to devise the rules, and the political advisors (e.g. Cummings) simply help with the communication of those rules. People need to stop insinuating that Cummings broke 'his own' rules. 

Except that the governments own scientific advisors are saying the government are opening up too soon - how odd! 
 

Wait wait didn’t Dom sit in on the SAGE meetings where the rules were created ? ????

[RuamRudy]

19 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Don't be silly RR. Virus deaths are natural causes no matter how you look at it. You're thinking of that plastic Scotsman known as Blair.

Not silly at all - catching COVID is not a foregone conclusion. Had the pandemic been better managed, England would not have the worst death rate in the world. The blame for it taking such a devastating toll on the population lies squarely at the feet of our incompetent, corrupt government, and no number of dead cats will divert attention away from the culprits. 

[Bruntoid]

12 minutes ago, vogie said:

I thought the police said Cummings had no case to answer, are you the judge and jury now, I think we should leave decissions on whether a man or woman is guilty or not to the relevant authorities and not start our own lynching party, judging someone because you don't like them is not how justice is served in the UK, as well you know.

Wow I don’t think questions can get easier than A or B, how wrong I was still moving on....

 

Where did the police say he ‘had no case to answer’ get that exact quote please as I consistently read it was a minor breach of the law (for which others have already been fined) 
 

So Rosie Duffield caught stupidly  sneaking off for a bit of hows your father and honourably resigns when caught, where’s the comparison with Cummings who clearly hasn’t  got the guts she has and drives a 4 year old around to ‘test’ his eyesight ? 

Edited May 31, 2020 by Bruntoid

[7by7]

18 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

the left wing papers wont let the story go ..they keep bleating ..but by the next election its history .kinnock never resigned so why should cummings ?

 

Left wing papers like the Mail and Telegraph?

 

Kinnock was caught, treated the same as many others who had broken lockdown rules, accepted that and that was the end of it.

 

Number 10 told lies about Cummings. Were those lies told without his knowledge, or on his instruction? Worse still, did Johnson know they were lies?

 

When those lies were exposed, Cummings made up a ridiculous story about driving 60 miles with his son in the car on his wife's birthday to make sure he was fit to drive! 

[7by7]

17 hours ago, Loiner said:

Yep, deffo the majority. That's how we do things and that's why we have Boris, not old has been Corbyn.

Have another count why dontcha?

No need for another count; the Tories received 43.6% of the votes: fact.

 

That means your original statement that the majority of the electorate voted for them is untrue. They didn't even receive the majority of the votes cast!

 

3 hours ago, transam said:

Lets twist again like we did last summer, lets twist again like we did last year.....????

Seems you maths is as poor as Loiner's!

[evadgib]

9 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Not silly at all - catching COVID is not a foregone conclusion. Had the pandemic been better managed, England would not have the worst death rate in the world. The blame for it taking such a devastating toll on the population lies squarely at the feet of our incompetent, corrupt government, and no number of dead cats will divert attention away from the culprits. 

For ???????????????????????????? read ????????. I don't for one minute believe that ???????? has a higher death rate than the rest of the ????????????, but with countries manipulating their figures or not bothering to report in the first place we're simply being saddled as a result of our over zealous reporting and the suspicion that deaths are being attributed to the virus despite other conditions being the actual cause of death.

 

It'll all come out in due course.

 

(????????????????????????????/???????? death rate worse than ????????? Countries in Central Asia or the Middle East? The ????????? or countries in ????????? Your can swallow that if you like but don't expect too many others to join you)

[7by7]

1 hour ago, vogie said:

Labour MP Rosie Duffield who was complaing last week about Dominic Cummings breaking lockdown rules to look after a vunerable child, as herself been caught out breaking lockdown rules to meet her married lover, oh the hypocrisy. But the 'I hate Dom machine' will tell us this is different. ????????????????

 

Are you saying that Duffield and Cummings should be treated the same?

 

If so, I agree with you.

 

Duffield has apologised and resigned; when will Cummings do the same?

 

Kent Labour MP Rosie Duffield's full statement after resigning from frontbench for breaking lockdown rules

 

BTW, I can't find any reports of her "complaing (sic) last week about Dominic Cummings breaking lockdown rules." Have you a link?

[Loiner]

20 hours ago, 7by7 said:

A majority is greater than 50%

 

So if 50.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% had voted for the Tories then they would have received the majority of votes.

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

No need for another count; the Tories received 43.6% of the votes: fact.

 

That means your original statement that the majority of the electorate voted for them is untrue. They didn't even receive the majority of the votes cast!

 

Seems you maths is as poor as Loiner's!

Come on make your mind up. First you say a majority is greater than 50%. Then you say they didn't get a majority. 
Your maths are as twisted as your politics. At least my maths concur with the results of the referendum and elections results.
Your 'fact's' are as true as those lies of Cummings witch hunt lefties: 

[7by7]

The following points have been raised many times; but as yet not a single Cummings defender has had the guts to respond to them. Will one of you do so this time?

 

Number 10 said on 30th March that Cummings and his family were self isolating in their London home. A lie, by this time they were already in Durham.

 

Number 10 said that Durham police had not spoken to Cummings' father. A lie, they had.

 

Number 10 said that Cummings and his family had not driven to Barnard Castle on Wakefield's birthday. A lie, they had.

 

So Number 10 lied about Cummings on at least three occasions. The important question is why?

 

If it was done on his behalf but without his knowledge then the person responsible should resign or be sacked.

 

If it was done with Cummings' knowledge, or worse on his instruction, then Cummings must go.

 

But what the Prime minister knew about these lies at the time, or worst of all was responsible for them? 

 

Honourable politicians have resigned for less.