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Felling of British slave trader statue heats up simmering debate

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  • Seems like mob rule has taken over in the UK..... police deciding not to intervene..... rule of law broken time and time again.  I'm glad to have left the UK 18 years ago - it's gone to the dogs!

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    Doing what the city council should have done years ago.  

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    We have already see clear examples of the folly of allowing complex issues to be decided by plebiscite. Unfortunately, the UK has a long history of lionising some of the worst people in history. It is

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3 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Looks like Teddy Sheringham. Didn’t he used to play for them. 

Must have fallen on hard times. 

 

Could have got a jumper that fits lol

1 minute ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Yes

Quite a few there so they will have to get a move on if the want them down anytime soon. 
 

I would imagine a number of those protestors are currently  being Furloughed so indirectly Boris is sponsoring the event. 

Generous to a fault. 

8 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Could have got a jumper that fits lol

You can tell he’s tough as he has taken his mask off and giving it “Come on COVID if you want some!”

2 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

You can tell he’s tough as he has taken his mask off and giving it “Come on COVID if you want some!”

I wish Thailand will open up soon, need to leave asap, UK is such a dump lol.

7 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

I wish Thailand will open up soon, need to leave asap, UK is such a dump lol.

Ain’t gonna happen anytime soon. 
 

December is my guess. Especially if our lot keep dicking around. 
Did you see the sham this evening. Still talking about 2m when the industry says it will potentially cost a million jobs in the leisure industry and meanwhile in Oxford at the same time ........

2 hours ago, elliss said:

 The New generation

couldnt fart their way out of a wet paper bag

14 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Ain’t gonna happen anytime soon. 
 

December is my guess. Especially if our lot keep dicking around. 
Did you see the sham this evening. Still talking about 2m when the industry says it will potentially cost a million jobs in the leisure industry and meanwhile in Oxford at the same time ........

I've been watching the Oxford protest, more entertaining that those briefings. The government are useless, these protests are happening because of their incompetence and failing to do deal with it.

 

Opening the pubs will be a start.

 

 

5 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

but hurling abuse at mainly women

equal  rights

5 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Looks like nazi salutes to me and taken from the article.

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looks  like black  power  salute to me as fingers  not  extended

18 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Robert Milligan: Slave trader statue removed from outside London museum https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52977088
 

Take this one off your list. 
 

Looks like Millwall Boy was at the wrong one. 

1 down 59 to go lol.

 

13 minutes ago, bodga said:

equal  rights

You probably wouldn't say that if it was your Thai wife or girlfriend, they are foreigners in the UK.

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10 hours ago, simple1 said:

Khan is not an 'alien'. Born, raised and educated in London

profiteering from  his  uk  education paid for from  the  profits  of  slavery

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3 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

1 down 59 to go lol.

 

You probably wouldn't say that if it was your Thai wife or girlfriend, they are foreigners in the UK.

you  havent  seen  my  wife's  tits...........or  maybe you  have?

26 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Robert Milligan: Slave trader statue removed from outside London museum https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52977088
 

Take this one off your list. 
 

Looks like Millwall Boy was at the wrong one. 

im  demanding Africa be  removed  from  world  maps  due  to  its  involvement  with  the  slave trade

5 minutes ago, bodga said:

im  demanding Africa be  removed  from  world  maps  due  to  its  involvement  with  the  slave trade

Yep good luck with that. 
 

I’m predicting Thomas Guy is on borrowed time. Millwall Boy needs to get his skates on.


Let’s see who wins. 

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

Yep good luck with that. 
 

I’m predicting Thomas Guy is on borrowed time. Let’s see who wins. 

Just had a look at wikipedia and invloved with slave trade, yep he's a goner too. Good game this, entertainment everyday, some fit birds in the crowd. One of the girls speaking at Oxford protest was really good, excellent oratory, powerful and whipped the crowd up with the chanting. Seriously impressed today with the energy of the crowd at Oxford.

5 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Just had a look at wikipedia and invloved with slave trade, yep he's a goner too. Good game this, entertainment everyday, some fit birds in the crowd. One of the girls speaking at Oxford protest was really good, excellent oratory, powerful and whipped the crowd up with the chanting. Seriously impressed today with the energy of the crowd at Oxford.

Yeah Guys a goner. 6/4 fav

 

Momentum is building, influential figures are backing them. The Police and the Government are bottling it. 

 

Its gonna take more than 10st wringing wet Millwall Boy to stop it. 

17 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Yeah Guys a goner. 6/4 fav

 

Momentum is building, influential figures are backing them. The Police and the Government are bottling it. 

 

Its gonna take more than 10st wringing wet Millwall Boy to stop it. 

Tbh I do think they have a point after listening to the speeches today. It's comes from being a colonial power and a third of world in our control up to 1947. When my 87 year old mum was at school they were taught about the wonderful empire and how Britain ruled the world. We are getting payback from being colonial.

 

These football lads are not going stop anything, especially if they are caught on camera being racist. The story is all over The Sun and Mail now, comments turned off lol.

 

Unstoppable force of raw energy. Statues coming down in mainland Europe too.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8401857/Racists-heroes-Black-Lives-Matter-want-topple-statues-famous-Britons-slavery-links.html

 

2 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

 

Yep, anarchy. This Oxford protest is more revolutionary than others I've seen. Pretty good orators and powerful speeches, whipping the crowd up, this is organised today.

the future brains of britain,brainwashed and manipulated by mob rule.

24 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Tbh I do think they have a point after listening to the speeches today. It's comes from being a colonial power and a third of world in our control up to 1947. When my 87 year old mum was at school they were taught about the wonderful empire and how Britain ruled the world. We are getting payback from being colonial.

 

These football lads are not going stop anything, especially if they are caught on camera being racist. The story is all over The Sun and Mail now, comments turned off lol.

 

Unstoppable force of raw energy. Statues coming down in mainland Europe too.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8401857/Racists-heroes-Black-Lives-Matter-want-topple-statues-famous-Britons-slavery-links.html

 

Yes we did have an empire and gave  it all back leaving good solid infrastructures( i,m talking about britain) fast forward 50 years and look what's happened.

1 minute ago, kingdong said:

Yes we did have an empire and gave  it all back leaving good solid infrastructures( i,m talking about britain) fast forward 50 years and look what's happened.

We did give it back, but I don't think they appreciated being colonised. We just happen to be the white British getting the payback for it. Our previous governments are to blame for allowing large scale immigration. I'm only here because of covid, otherwise I would have stayed in BKK, not much better there with all of the restrictions.

Where’s Moggy? I bet he is chomping at the bit to have his say. 
 

Ah I forgot, he is still gagged after making an a.rse of himself over Grenfell.  

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I won't lose any sleep if a toppling two tonne statue lands on half a dozen of these braindead morons.  

58 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

We did give it back, but I don't think they appreciated being colonised. We just happen to be the white British getting the payback for it. Our previous governments are to blame for allowing large scale immigration. I'm only here because of covid, otherwise I would have stayed in BKK, not much better there with all of the restrictions.

You might be a victim of xenophobia yourself being a guest and foreigner in someone else's country .

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I heard Raheem Sterling talking today about how 'change' needs to happen now. He was unable to explain what changes he wants. That's quite typical of the angry 'oppressed' crowd. He said there are not enough black managers in the Premier League. Well Raheem, guess how PL managers are chosen - on merit. If there was a black Alex Ferguson on the market right now, which PL chairman would not pay a fortune to hire him?

 

We have plenty of prominent BAME MPs in the UK. David 'I have a dream' Lammy is a relatively young man to have made it into the HoC as an MP. Was his progress blocked or aided by his ethnicity? Dianne Abbot has been an MP for about a million years. Was it her skin colour that prevented her from becoming Prime Minister? No, definitely not. Her skin colour certainly didn't prevent her from almost getting to the the top of the tree in the Labour Party. How much further could a lady of her her ability expect to get? What glass ceiling can she be talking about?  

 

President Obama proved that the 'glass ceiling' is a myth in the 21st century. A black man became (what is commonly referred to as) the most powerful man in the world. 

I used to work for Credit Suisse, one of the world's biggest global banks. The CEO of this bank until earlier this year was Tidjane Thiam. A black man. A very talented man. Glass ceiling? 

 

Raheem, you and your friends need to stop blaming the world for everything, and encourage your fellow human beings, black and white. There are opportunities out there for all of us. Lazy white people also get nowhere. Talentless white people also get nowhere. Success comes from hard work, talent or both. Not a lack of melanin pigments. 

 

Stop spreading the hate. Peace out man 

 

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10 hours ago, kingdong said:

Think you,'ll find the British did a lot to stop slavery,a lot more than the USA and the myth of the civil war being fought to abolish slavery.

I'll take a little exception about that.

 

Remember your history. The British outlawed the transportation of slaves, long before they outlawed the owning of slaves in their West Indian colonies.

 

In the US following the civil war, during Reconstruction, there was a truly liberal decade. 

 

The failure in the US was that after Reconstruction the Federal Government allowed Southern States to start implementing laws that circumvented the 14 & 15 amendments to the constitution which were introduced during Reconstruction. In many ways the civil rights movement in the 60's was the 2nd era of Reconstruction.

 

As I said in a previous post. The British were the largest transporters of African slaves to the Americas. And while their fields didn't have African slaves working in them, thousands upon thousands of British people were perfectly happy to own slaves working in the sugar and cotton plantations of the West Indies and the Americas.

 

So maybe a little introspection might be worth while here on the tragedy you inflicted

 

And you didn't have some moral awakening , you essentially nationalized the whole slave business by paying people off!

 

You didn't suffer the trauma of slavery and it's aftermath because you didn't have slaves, but in todays lexicon, you were human traffickers on steroids!

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britains-colonial-shame-slave-owners-given-huge-payouts-after-abolition-8508358.html

8 hours ago, nauseus said:

Er  who?

555555 ... Maybe you were sleeping in your 2nd WW history lesson ....  ???? ....

3 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Just had a look at wikipedia and invloved with slave trade, yep he's a goner too. Good game this, entertainment everyday, some fit birds in the crowd. One of the girls speaking at Oxford protest was really good, excellent oratory, powerful and whipped the crowd up with the chanting. Seriously impressed today with the energy of the crowd at Oxford.

Oxford education probably ????  They only take the smartest and brightest you know .......

 

Or maybe Cambridge ....

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