Sundown Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) Those in white shirt doing customer relation at immigrations. How do you feel about them? Some are nice, but too many are arrogant, salty, almost mean. Never spoke to a Thai IO with an attitude like that. What's their problem? They like playing the cop? Edited June 9, 2020 by Sundown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puchaiyank Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 I find your description to fit most of the Thai population...some are nice, many are arrogant and mean...this is Thailand...???? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post northsouthdevide Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 Visiting immigration every 3 months can be a stressful experience for many, so imagine how those guys feel, having to do it every day... Rather them than me. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sundown Posted June 9, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Puchaiyank said: I find your description to fit most of the Thai population...some are nice, many are arrogant and mean...this is Thailand...???? I'm speaking about internationals not Thais. Usually these are grumpy retired people with a secret fetish for playing the cop. Especially the women. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TooPoopedToPop Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 38 minutes ago, Sundown said: I'm speaking about internationals not Thais. Usually these are grumpy retired people with a secret fetish for playing the cop. Especially the women. Don't let that obvious fact get in the way of a little gratuitous denigration of Thais. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post couchpotato Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 44 minutes ago, Sundown said: I'm speaking about internationals not Thais. Usually these are grumpy retired people with a secret fetish for playing the cop. Especially the women. 46 minutes ago, Sundown said: I'm speaking about internationals not Thais. Usually these are grumpy retired people with a secret fetish for playing the cop. Especially the women. Just gone back thru your posts. Your obvious distaste for Thai people is quite alarming, quite racist actually. If you are indeed in Thailand, then perhaps you shouldn't be. As for the international volunteers, who help and give information to many many foreigners a day at immigration offices around Thailand. They give their time and are appreciated by most. So why the hatred?? 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted June 9, 2020 Author Share Posted June 9, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, couchpotato said: Just gone back thru your posts. Your obvious distaste for Thai people is quite alarming, quite racist actually. If you are indeed in Thailand, then perhaps you shouldn't be. As for the international volunteers, who help and give information to many many foreigners a day at immigration offices around Thailand. They give their time and are appreciated by most. So why the hatred?? Question 1) matter of fact I'm just waiting to leave Thailand for good Question 2) good that you appreciate their work. I appreciate it too. Sometimes I felt like not liking at all the attitude of SOME OF THEM Edited June 9, 2020 by Sundown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post couchpotato Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 34 minutes ago, Sundown said: Question 1) matter of fact I'm just waiting to leave Thailand for good Question 2) good that you appreciate their work. I appreciate it too. Sometimes I felt like not liking at all the attitude of SOME OF THEM Thailand isn't for everyone. But it's good to many of us. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puchaiyank Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Sundown said: I'm speaking about internationals not Thais. Usually these are grumpy retired people with a secret fetish for playing the cop. Especially the women. Maybe they have been around the Thai immigration officers too long...???? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Why Me Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 3 hours ago, Sundown said: Question 1) matter of fact I'm just waiting to leave Thailand for good The average attitude of farangs here should improve once that happens. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samsensam Posted June 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 9, 2020 6 hours ago, Puchaiyank said: I find your description to fit most of the Thai population...some are nice, many are arrogant and mean...this is Thailand...???? that's really sad to hear, maybe it's the circle/s you exist in or maybe a reaction to your own attitude. i have many thai friends, and many i have been friends with for many years, these and thais i meet going about my daily life are overwhelmingly friendly, happy, helpful, pretty laid back and pleasant to be with. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Which immigration office(s) are you referring to please? I haven't seen foreign volunteers at Chaeng Wattana in Bangkok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterTee Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 12 hours ago, samsensam said: that's really sad to hear, maybe it's the circle/s you exist in or maybe a reaction to your own attitude. i have many thai friends, and many i have been friends with for many years, these and thais i meet going about my daily life are overwhelmingly friendly, happy, helpful, pretty laid back and pleasant to be with. That's pretty much been my experience too since first coming here in the late 1970s. However, it can't be denied that there is a surly, resentful underclass here and they blame all their problems on the "rich" - and that includes us no matter how little money we may have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 11:53 AM, blackcab said: Which immigration office(s) are you referring to please? I haven't seen foreign volunteers at Chaeng Wattana in Bangkok. These dressed in white in the picture. At Phuket immigration you cannot do anything without passing their "screening". Usually the younger are nicer, the older ones especially the women treat you like a scum especially if you are a young they assume you are doing something illegal and ridiculously investigate making odd questions while their job should be just check if your papers are ok before going to the officer. Many times I've seen girls rejected rudely for the way they were dressed. I mean ok to reject if not compliant, but acting like a high rank officier of the Army looks ridiculous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackcab Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Moved to the Phuket Forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Sundown said: These dressed in white in the picture. At Phuket immigration you cannot do anything without passing their "screening". Usually the younger are nicer, the older ones especially the women treat you like a scum especially if you are a young they assume you are doing something illegal and ridiculously investigate making odd questions while their job should be just check if your papers are ok before going to the officer. Many times I've seen girls rejected rudely for the way they were dressed. I mean ok to reject if not compliant, but acting like a high rank officier of the Army looks ridiculous. Really. Last few retirement extensions at Phuket there were no volunteers in sight. Don't recognise that photo as Phuket Immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechbum Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Mods probably better off deleting the entire thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbeach Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 22 hours ago, couchpotato said: Just gone back thru your posts. Your obvious distaste for Thai people is quite alarming, quite racist actually. If you are indeed in Thailand, then perhaps you shouldn't be. As for the international volunteers, who help and give information to many many foreigners a day at immigration offices around Thailand. They give their time and are appreciated by most. So why the hatred?? BTW I've never spotted any of these volunteers at immigration before. Must be a Pattaya thing. Coz in Bangkok and every provincial office like Nakorn Sawan, Tak, Mae Hong Son...only ever seen Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Psimbo Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 I've never had a problem with the volunteers in Phuket (which the picture does not illustrate). I would have a bit of an attitude dealing with scruffy, ill-prepared erks who wander in with no preparation whatsoever, thinking they know the rules better than those who work there. How many times have I overheard 'you are wrong' or 'but I'm an American'. Not a great way to start the experience. Attitude counts for a lot and by the tone of the Op's comments its pretty clear why he may have had issues with them. Personally, of all the different volunteers around I think they do a great job as a buffer between the public and the IOs. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 They're not as bad as the Police volunteers............that's the nicest way I can put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post merijn Posted June 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2020 19 hours ago, Sundown said: These dressed in white in the picture. At Phuket immigration you cannot do anything without passing their "screening". Usually the younger are nicer, the older ones especially the women treat you like a scum especially if you are a young they assume you are doing something illegal and ridiculously investigate making odd questions while their job should be just check if your papers are ok before going to the officer. Many times I've seen girls rejected rudely for the way they were dressed. I mean ok to reject if not compliant, but acting like a high rank officier of the Army looks ridiculous. They are NOT immigration volunteers but old tourist police volunteers. And they have completely nothing to do with the immigration volunteers. There is always a possibility that somebody is grumpy or has a bad day but if you see what they have to handle with on a daily basis i'm not surprised. Lot of the tourist / expats can be a pain in the ass and behave they are the most important person on the whole world. And i know many immigration officers who can be much worse ???? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Myself Posted June 11, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 11, 2020 Which volonteers do you mean? There are two different groups at Phuket immigration. The original PIV (Phuket immigration volonteers) are only upstairs, dealing with business and marriage visa, but are also contact persons for all visa questions and difficult issues. They are very helpful and also try to find a solution in seemingly "hopeless" cases. My favourite there is the German lady called Carmen. For me it´s unbelievable to be always friendly and have a smile when dealing with a lot of morons who think they know everything better. For the second group downstairs I agree. Often rude (mostly the women) especially the tini french lady with her barrack yard tone. They are all adviced not to give visa information but nevertheless they do it, and because they are not updated with new rules they often give wrong informations. So better ask upstairs. And one example for the two different tones I witnessed. A young lady dressed in not much more than beach wear arrived at the office: Carmen: "Hey girl, I see you have a body most women would die for, but unfortunately you are in a government building and you have to cover this beauty." The french lady shouting: "DRESSCODE!! GO OUTSIDE!!" 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundown Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Yes i meant those at ground floor. And yes I mean especially women, I cannot say personally who since I go there once a year and I cannot recall. One time one of them made unnecessary remarks looking at my travel history (she is not an officer, should not question and sneak into my passport for anything but Thai visa stamps), I also argued with her for this and she actually behaved like she was an important officer just to show off in front of the other bystanders. Another time, still a woman (cannot tell if the same) questioned my wife (who is on spouse visa) like she was an investigator trying to understand if she worked illegally. Both times I had all papers and everything in place, of course. The picture I posted was just an example taken from Google. They have the same exact shirt. (Phuket logo on right sleeve and flags for language spoken on right chest). Good that it was just my problem and few others. As the user with the "smart" car on the avatar suggested, probably it's because I'm scruffy, unprepared and I have bad attitude!???? Peace! Edited June 11, 2020 by Sundown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zaZa9 Posted June 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2020 I think they do a great job ... 10 years back a visit to that IO was dreaded , there was a free for all , no order , and agents with 20 passports came and pushed in. These guys fixed all that and started the number system , and their advice is CORRECT. Give them the credit they deserve... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merijn Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 16 hours ago, Myself said: Which volonteers do you mean? There are two different groups at Phuket immigration. The original PIV (Phuket immigration volonteers) are only upstairs, dealing with business and marriage visa, but are also contact persons for all visa questions and difficult issues. They are very helpful and also try to find a solution in seemingly "hopeless" cases. My favourite there is the German lady called Carmen. For me it´s unbelievable to be always friendly and have a smile when dealing with a lot of morons who think they know everything better. For the second group downstairs I agree. Often rude (mostly the women) especially the tini french lady with her barrack yard tone. They are all adviced not to give visa information but nevertheless they do it, and because they are not updated with new rules they often give wrong informations. So better ask upstairs. And one example for the two different tones I witnessed. A young lady dressed in not much more than beach wear arrived at the office: Carmen: "Hey girl, I see you have a body most women would die for, but unfortunately you are in a government building and you have to cover this beauty." The french lady shouting: "DRESSCODE!! GO OUTSIDE!!" Thanks for the explanation yes you are right to say that there are 2 group of volunteers at Phuket immigration. The original volunteers who work upstairs in room 204 and who are doing all the long term visas and other (difficult) stuff. They are in close contact with the immigration officers and are kept up to date with all the rulings. They are also the one who have the website and email address for all immigration issues. The volunteers downstairs in room 101 are there to help the tourist and other room 101 related issues. They are not allowed or have information about any other visa issues as they are not kept up to date by the immigration officers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted June 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 9:00 PM, couchpotato said: Just gone back thru your posts. Your obvious distaste for Thai people is quite alarming, quite racist actually. If you are indeed in Thailand, then perhaps you shouldn't be. As for the international volunteers, who help and give information to many many foreigners a day at immigration offices around Thailand. They give their time and are appreciated by most. So why the hatred?? You need to learn English. Nothing he said was racist. He's talking about those foreigners who volunteer to help and abuse their position and create an atmosphere in immigration that makes you want to hit them before you go speak to the nice Thai officer. I'm most curious as to why so many people want to jump on the racist bandwagon as keyboard warriors? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 7:59 PM, northsouthdevide said: Visiting immigration every 3 months can be a stressful experience for many, so imagine how those guys feel, having to do it every day... Rather them than me. Luckily, We don’t have any of this don't have any of western volunteers down here - police or immigration- but these people don’t have to do this job - so if they have an attitude, they should move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Learn to speak Thai and you can avoid them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merijn Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Keesters said: Learn to speak Thai and you can avoid them. Doesn't work as you have to use the volunteers to get a queue number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Just now, merijn said: Doesn't work as you have to use the volunteers to get a queue number. Try speaking Thai to them then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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