London's statues from 'bygone' imperial past to be reviewed, mayor says

[kingdong]

27 minutes ago, champers said:

The mayor should be embarrased that he has this new policy born of illegal acts of vandalism. He is electioneering, pure and simple.

Let's hope next election more law abiding people vote him out,than armchair anarchists who,'ll vote him in.

[Bluespunk]

40 minutes ago, kingdong said:

 

He,d better get his skates on,next election he,'ll be history,he would be now if they hadn,t postponed the election due to corona,think he realises that and in the meantime is doing more damage to London than the Luftwaffe.

Really, can you explain exactly how removing statues and renaming streets will do that?

[norfolkandchance]

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

She's one of the biggest racists going...

Good choice of shoes though.

[kingdong]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Really, can you explain exactly how removing statues and renaming streets will do that?

Where did I mention renaming streets?but as you bought up the subject of streets Khan is shutting a lot of public highways to all but bikes and buses,and increased the congestion charge and extended it to weekends,tfl is one billion pounds in deficit <deleted> up the wall mainly down to vanity projects, I live in London and my contribution to the London assembly via my rates increased 3.6% this year what's the inflation rate?in the meantime cannot help but notice you,'re posting a lot of "confused" emojis,get some help this confusion could be a sign of something serious.

[StreetCowboy]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m sure the UK can find better people to celebrate than slave traders.

Put up a statue to one.

[StreetCowboy]

1 hour ago, kingdong said:

 

He,d better get his skates on,next election he,'ll be history,he would be now if they hadn,t postponed the election due to corona,think he realises that and in the meantime is doing more damage to London than the Luftwaffe.

I have no doubt this story is false, but entertaining nonetheless.

A chap had gone to Germany to visit an RAF base, and was struggling to find his way around town.

"Excuse me, can you tell me where I might find a car park?"
"Are you here to visit the RAF?"

"Yes"

"Thanks to the RAF, we have more car parks than any other city in Germany"

end of conversation

[StreetCowboy]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Acknowledging slave traders does not have to include putting up statues of them in public spaces.

Nor does it require renaming streets or removing statues.  Fortunately, statues have no rights under defamation, libel or slander, and you can say what you like about them.  If you would prefer other statues, they are easily funded.  If you contribute to your community as others have done, the municipality might help

[Bluespunk]

26 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Where did I mention renaming streets?but as you bought up the subject of streets Khan is shutting a lot of public highways to all but bikes and buses,and increased the congestion charge and extended it to weekends,tfl is one billion pounds in deficit <deleted> up the wall mainly down to vanity projects, I live in London and my contribution to the London assembly via my rates increased 3.6% this year what's the inflation rate?in the meantime cannot help but notice you,'re posting a lot of "confused" emojis,get some help this confusion could be a sign of something serious.

As the OP is about renaming streets and removing statues I felt that was the relevant aspect of my post your analogy was directed towards. 
 

The rest of your post appears to be a rant because the cost of living in London is high. 
 

Don’t live there if that’s the case, my relatives there are coping quite well. 

Edited June 9, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Denim]

16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m sure the UK can find better people to celebrate than slave traders.

 

Yes....could do with a few more Phil Lynotts. The one they have now does not do the bloke justice.  One on top of Nelsons column would be so like ...awesome.. It would then be Lynotts column standing in Thin Lizzy square. How cool would that be.

 

 

Black and Irish. Can't get more PC than that !!

 

 

 

Edited June 9, 2020 by Denim

[elliss]

3 hours ago, PJPom said:

 

Pulling down a statue of a slave trader in Bristol, painting Churchill’s statue, this is just vandalism, we can learn from the past but we shouldn’t attempt to rewrite it.

 

 It is not vandalism , it is a realistic opinion of of the truth .

    Which the UK educational systems , controlled by the establishment ,

The new generation , of young graduates are not , believing in this historic British  , BS ..

      

[bartender100]

What ever people think of Churchill he is credited as stopping the Nazis, had he failed I am afraid that there would not be many black people around today, ironic as it is

[kingdong]

48 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

As the OP is about renaming streets and removing statues I felt that was the relevant aspect of my post your analogy was directed towards. 
 

The rest of your post appears to be a rant because the cost of living in London is high. 
 

Don’t live there if that’s the case, my relatives there are coping quite well. 

Where do,'es the renaming of streets come into this post?it doe sen,t,getting confused again? the rest of my post pertains to Khan ( who is the mayor of londons) mismanagement of the job he put himself Up to do.glad your relatives are coping and not getting confused.

[Bluespunk]

4 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Where do,'es the renaming of streets come into this post?it doe sen,t,getting confused again? the rest of my post pertains to Khan ( who is the mayor of londons) mismanagement of the job he put himself Up to do.glad your relatives are coping and not getting confused.

Completely disagree with your jaundiced view of Mayor Khan. 

Edited June 9, 2020 by Bluespunk

[kingdong]

1 hour ago, norfolkandchance said:

Good choice of shoes though.

And her knowledge of mathematics is second to none.

[kingdong]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

Completely disagree with your jaundiced view of Mayor Khan. 

Up to you,still you don,t have to live in London so think as I do and have to subsidise his crackpot schemes and pay his wages via the payment of my rates that my opinion carries more weight than yours.I also have to put up with the consequences of his actions.

[Bluespunk]

10 minutes ago, kingdong said:

Up to you,still you don,t have to live in London so think as I do and have to subsidise his crackpot schemes and pay his wages via the payment of my rates that my opinion carries more weight than yours.I also have to put up with the consequences of his actions.

I find my family are very happy with Mayor Khan and certainly intend to vote for him again. This latest initiative will only increase that support. 

Edited June 9, 2020 by Bluespunk

[Psimbo]

People can learn bad things from history and people can learn good things from history- that's why its history. History should not be re-written.

 

Ripping down statues because modern PC snowflakes are 'offended' by them is just wrong. A statue does not necessarily glorify someone it educates people about them.

 

Personally I am offended by the Mandela statue in London- I guess in some eyes that makes me a racist. Personally I just don't like terrorists being aggrandised even if the regime they were fighting was abhorrent.

 

This 5 year old article makes for interesting reading if the link is allowed. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35161671 Some want rid of a statue of Cromwell.

[kingdong]

13 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I find my family are very happy with Mayor Khan and certainly intend to vote for him again. This latest initiative will only increase that support. 

Power to the people

[KhaoNiaw]

5 minutes ago, Psimbo said:

People can learn bad things from history and people can learn good things from history- that's why its history. History should not be re-written.

 

Ripping down statues because modern PC snowflakes are 'offended' by them is just wrong. A statue does not necessarily glorify someone it educates people about them.

 

Personally I am offended by the Mandela statue in London- I guess in some eyes that makes me a racist. Personally I just don't like terrorists being aggrandised even if the regime they were fighting was abhorrent.

 

This 5 year old article makes for interesting reading if the link is allowed. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35161671 Some want rid of a statue of Cromwell.

I don't see history being re-written. At the moment, it seems a lot of people are actually learning a lot about history. I bet very few people could have told you much about the people represented by these statues before so it's probably been quite educational in many ways. There's a great slavery museum in Liverpool where they could set some of these men rather than just tearing them down.  

[bodga]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m sure the UK can find better people to celebrate than slave traders.

Grotty Thunberg

[flinc2020]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Start by learning about the past.

 

The teaching of British history, and particularly the history of the empire is abysmal, hardly if ever addressing the abuses the British perpetrated on those they had subjugated.

Isn't that the point of history? To look at the past and remind ourselves not to repeat the same mistakes? If you wipe away all trace of the past then you are doomed to repeat it's mistakes.

[Bluespunk]

Just now, kingdong said:

Excellent news,should ensure Labour remain unelectable for the next 84 years glad they,'re nailing their colours to the last and showing their priorities in these troubled times.

Let’s see eh, right now, all looking good to me.
 

After all these are the democratically elected local officials who will be making these decisions.

 

Power to the people indeed. 

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

How did Labour do in the last elections ?

Are they trying to make themselves obsolete ?

I’d say they are responding to current issues. 

Edited June 9, 2020 by Bluespunk

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

I’d say they are responding to current thinking.

..............by a small minority .

They will be behind the Lib Dems and Greens in the next election (or was they already ?)

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

..............by a small minority .

They will be behind the Lib Dems and Greens in the next election (or was they already ?)

All good, I always voted Green anyway. 

[kingdong]

3 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

..............by a small minority .

They will be behind the Lib Dems and Greens in the next election (or was they already ?)

They,'ll be behind the late screaming Lord sutch,pity he never got in,a statue of Tommy Steele on every street corner was on his manifesto.

[Kadilo]

Excellent news. 
 

Off with their heads!

[Kadilo]

Robert Milligan: Slave trader statue removed from outside London museum https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52977088
 

One down........

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

“Our capital’s diversity is our greatest strength, yet our statues, road names and public spaces reflect a bygone era,” Khan said. He said some statues would be removed.

Useless mayor. Under his "reign" public toilets were unavailable in the center of London when I visited. Tourists had to pay to buy something at Maccers etc to be able to use theirs.

Strange how those statues were not a problem before SOME people in the UK went OTT hooligans protesters.

Remove the past, forget the past, don't learn from the past, repeat the past. Madness.

[baansgr]

3 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Robert Milligan: Slave trader statue removed from outside London museum https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-52977088
 

One down........

A very sad day...what's next, library books, paintings, renaming whole towns...I know of one dictactor that did the same in the last century....