Just now, vogie said:

Like Mayor Khan and the BBC do you class our veterans as "right wing" seriously, if you do, you can put me on your ignore list too!

I am a veteran. Don't think I am right wing.

Just now, Rookiescot said:

I am a veteran. Don't think I am right wing.

I too am a veteran and these are the people who are willing to risk their lives guarding something the police should be doing.

3 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Snippets from The Guardian rolling feed.

 

Some Far Right groups are still expected to be present on Saturday in London, discussions on their online forums among football gangs has turned to mobilising in other cities and towns including Leeds, Bristol and Sunderland, against perceived threats to contested historical monuments. In Poole, locals have prevented the authorities removing a statue of the founder of the Boy Scout movement, Robert Baden-Powell.

 

Hope Not hate warned of a particular potential flashpoint on Saturday in Leeds, where football groups and the Far Right have more traditionally been more interwined than elsewhere, as well as in towns such as Shrewsbury, which is home to a Clive of India statue as well as the English Border Front, a football hooligan firm of the League One club Shrewsbury Town.

Rolling feed of bullshine.

Baden-Powell is now boxed up, see ya.

 

Is it just me or is it the case that last year's climate change activists that caused chaos in London have jumped on the BLM bandwagon as a useful vehicle to get back on track in causing more chaos.

 

If they get their heads kicked in by the police and/or public opposition tomorrow then I won't be complaining.  We reap what we sow and there's only so much nonsense your average Joe will put up with.

 

I easily foresee large-scale race riots in the UK once again if this mindlessness continues.

 

 

4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

The right wing are mobilising their forces.

 

To counter protest against the left wing mobs vandalizing memorials and property and attacking the police?

3 hours ago, torturedsole said:

Is it just me or is it the case that last year's climate change activists that caused chaos in London have jumped on the BLM bandwagon as a useful vehicle to get back on track in causing more chaos.

Dunno. I'm for the earth every time (Trump and numpty associates are so wrong on that) but all this going on right now is complete <deleted> leftist tat. Remove all the statues if you want, draw back history - where to, before or after speaking German, where do you guys want to start?

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On 6/11/2020 at 9:36 PM, worgeordie said:

What about doing something about modern day slavery,

it's alive and well,we cannot change the past.

regards worgeordie

So much easier to 'feel good' about doing something right about the past than dealing with real issues happening right now. 

11 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

Just looks like an insignificant guy walking past

Paint it black and say its from '2001 a space odyssey' ........

19 minutes ago, rvaviator said:

So much easier to 'feel good' about doing something right about the past than dealing with real issues happening right now. 

That would be a good idea when the economy is going the down pan.

On 6/11/2020 at 10:29 PM, snoop1130 said:

“Whilst famed for the creation of the Scouts, we also recognise that there are some aspects of Robert Baden-Powell’s life that are considered less worthy of commemoration,” council leader Vikki Slade said.

Seems the stupid people have won when B P is regarded as a bad person.

However a good idea to remove the statue before the morons do.

 

Anyway, I knew the world we lived in has been taken over by the inmates a while back, when the gender we are became variable.

I hold no hope for the world we knew, and perhaps we deserve to lose it to the next world power for not standing up to the wreckers now.

The wreckers are a tiny % of the population, but given far too much importance by the media, and vandalism is obviously more fun than being a good citizen, especially when the authorities won't enforce the law.

If these statues are to be removed, what about the Catholic Church and others.

They did despicable deeds throughout history, then built churches to celebrate the victories

Are these buildings to be demolished?

And what of all the explorers from the past, no doubt they performed some deeds that are not acceptable today.

Are they to be scrubbed from history

The world has gone mad 

The statues are just effigies. Why don't they just burn some union flags? No one will care. 

3 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

The statues are just effigies. Why don't they just burn some union flags? No one will care. 

The Scottish Nats have already done that.

I notice that statues of slave traders are also being removed. Seems convenient but it wasn't the traders who went into the hinterland raided villages of different tribes and dragged slaves back to the coast for profit. That would have been fellow Africans. Who at the time weren't very fellow at all. Africans had slavery long before whitey got there.

11 minutes ago, vogie said:

The Scottish Nats have already done that.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1236369/brexit-day-news-eu-flag-burn-brexit-day-celebration-parliament-square-latest

 

People in glass houses.........

32 minutes ago, Grumpy one said:

The world has gone mad

Not all of it. Mainly just western countries where the thugs and vandals don't have to work for a living.

32 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1236369/brexit-day-news-eu-flag-burn-brexit-day-celebration-parliament-square-latest

 

People in glass houses.........

And there lies the problem, you think more of an insignificant flag than your own Union flag. Why does the EU need a flag and a national anthem, wasn't we told we joined only to trade with them and not to be under their dictorial rule.

13 minutes ago, vogie said:

And there lies the problem, you think more of an insignificant flag than your own Union flag. Why does the EU need a flag and a national anthem, wasn't we told we joined only to trade with them and not to be under their dictorial rule.

People should not be burning any flags.

 

What a wonderful opportunity these Yobs have given Dictatorships and Chinese style Nations, and its hard at the moment to disagree. Now they are showing on their Media the riots proving to their masses Democracy doesn't work if you dont crack down on dissidents, thieves an vandals.

16 hours ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Decolonize school curriculums and have balanced history lessons.

At school, not that long after WW2, the war was never mentioned in history lessons, never, to this day I don't understand why. But I was taught a lot about William the Conqueror and others of the era...????

13 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

You can enjoy your chlorinated chicken and hormone treated steak next. 

What you write is simply nonsense. Do you find any statue of Hitler in Germany? Or Mussolini or Franco? Many people are still proud. 

The old times are gone. Kings and cronies are outdated. They got their assets built on murder and blood. 

Not worth to remember. 

They are all sort of Randy Andy. Didn't learn anything but enjoying under aged little girls. 

You want to remember that sort of people once? 

Or somebody who wants to be the tampon of his darling? 

Stop it. I've to vomit. 

You better get to Rome, S.A.P, with your hammer and chisel and start demolishing the Colosseum..

Right up your street.....

Why are the governments letting these thug vandals dictate what should happen.  ???

I just don't get it .......  

These vandal protesters should have been forcibly removed and charged at the start. 

Absolutely disgraceful .....  nothing more than idiots who try to change the truth of the past.  

43 minutes ago, pineapple01 said:

Democracy doesn't work if you dont crack down on dissidents, thieves an vandals.

Just goes to show .....  democracy is nothing more than a word, it means nothing in the world today.

Stop these thug vandals now, before it's too late. 

 

 

 

 

12 minutes ago, transam said:

At school, not that long after WW2, the war was never mentioned in history lessons, never, to this day I don't understand why. But I was taught a lot about William the Conqueror and others of the era...????

I think that was because it was hardly History, you could walk round most European Cities in the sixties and still see bits of the carnage.

1 minute ago, pineapple01 said:

I think that was because it was hardly History, you could walk round most European Cities in the sixties and still see bits of the carnage.

I did, but was never taught what happened.....

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2 hours ago, transam said:

You better get to Rome, S.A.P, with your hammer and chisel and start demolishing the Colosseum..

Right up your street.....

In more ways than one ????

(????????)

 

Back to the topic; I believe the statue remains in situ & would like to see Bear Grylls in full rig guarding it.

On 6/12/2020 at 8:23 AM, Logosone said:

Collectivism is not the father of Nazism.

 

The father of Nazism was Communism, as Fascism and Nazism were a reaction to the agitation and violence of communism. Nazis originally wanted to preserve the lower middle class against the threat of violent revolution from the left. Read your Ernst Nolte.

 

Communism is also the father of the Antifa. All its life Communism, and Antifa, want to overthrow what exists. Destroy it completely and replace it with, what they and they alone know is a better way.

 

This is why Antifa want destruction and chaos. They hate the current order and want it gone. Racism is just a vehicle. A front. For the useful idiots.

 

It's not about Baden Powell, or Cecil Rhodes, or Edward Colston. It's about imposing their own values on the rest of us, and first all that was before has to go. 

It’s about destroying our values that we grew up with, rather than changing them.

Personally, I like and, to some extent, understand the status quo. If BLM disrupts that, what can I turn to for defence against the lunacy of Brexit and the criminals and buffoons behind it?