Thailand eyes tourists from China, New Zealand to fill its ‘travel bubble’

[JCP108]

3 hours ago, ian007 said:

The news today should change this: 

 

An area of the Chinese capital Beijing has been put under strict lockdown measures after the city's first coronavirus cases in more than 50 days.

The outbreak has been linked to the city's largest wholesale market.

A total of 45 people out of 517 tested at the Xinfadi market tested positive for Covid-19, a district official said. None were displaying symptoms.

 

That is 9% of the tested people!!!!! They now want to test 10.000 people who were in the area.

What this means should even convince Ayutin who thinks the sun shines out of the Chinese bums.

 

 

Should. But, it won't.

[Henryford]

Great idea, get a few million in from Wuhan.

[Susco]

On 6/12/2020 at 6:45 PM, snoop1130 said:

‘travel bubble’

Couldn't have chosen a better title for this thread, because in a bubble is where TAT has been living for years

[phkauf]

11 minutes ago, TechnikaIII said:

The Thai people deserve better.

.....

The Thai government needs a punch in the face.

While I generally love the people here, they got the government they deserve. So many people don't take voting seriously or just vote for the same guy/gal they always have no matter what party they represent. How many times have we seen a politician switch from one party to another solely based on what's good for that person, not for the people who voted for them. How many Pheu Thai politicians switched over to support the military government? Heck they are even quasi-celebrated as Cobra Politicians. 

Yes the Thai people deserve better, but until they start voting for a better class of politicians they won't get it. If enough politicians stood up for principle, the current military government would not have been formed - the Democrats are the worst offenders in this mess, but they had plenty of company on the road to hell. 

[phkauf]

1 hour ago, MobileContent said:

I can assure everyone that Thailand is not on the list with a Travel Bubble between South Korea, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand but possible Vietnam will be added and so could be Taiwan and Hong Kong.

Thailand is just the little fat kid on the sidelines screaming pick me, pick me. They are desperate to get in the game but nobody wants them.

[bwpage3]

38 minutes ago, phkauf said:

While I generally love the people here, they got the government they deserve. So many people don't take voting seriously or just vote for the same guy/gal they always have no matter what party they represent. How many times have we seen a politician switch from one party to another solely based on what's good for that person, not for the people who voted for them. How many Pheu Thai politicians switched over to support the military government? Heck they are even quasi-celebrated as Cobra Politicians. 

Yes the Thai people deserve better, but until they start voting for a better class of politicians they won't get it. If enough politicians stood up for principle, the current military government would not have been formed - the Democrats are the worst offenders in this mess, but they had plenty of company on the road to hell. 

Lack of education is a deadly thing.

 

In my wife's small village, every one still sells their vote for 500 baht.

 

That shows you right there the voting mentality in Thailand.

 

Politicians want to get into politics for corruption into their own pockets.

 

They will never waste time trying to solve the countries problems, because it doesn't pay.

 

Wait and see the pollution 5 years from now!

[Nanaplaza666]

In china they are keeping their eye on a new outbrake because there have just been reported new infections probably connecting to a meat market so in my mind it's the most stupid thing to do to let them be the first to come back in to thailand by the thousands or 100thousands .

[Mavideol]

On 6/12/2020 at 6:45 PM, snoop1130 said:

 

The two countries currently being considered are China and New Zealand.

555

https://www.businessinsider.com/china-beijing-orders-wartime-mode-after-coronavirus-found-in-market-2020-6

Beijing goes into 'wartime mode' and locks down after a spike in coronavirus cases emerge at a wholesale market

[Mavideol]

On 6/12/2020 at 7:17 PM, DrJack54 said:

To add to my previous post re NZ and China etc. Recently AU put forward investigation looking into origin of covid-19 to UN.

Straight away China described AU as chewing gum on their boot needing scraping off. Couple of days later banned lot of beef imports along with huge tariffs on barley (of all things).

Japan week or so back listed counties that they are looking at for "bubble" NZ,AU , Vietnam and several others in their thinking.

China was not on that list. Why

 

we should be careful with Japan as well

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-52466834

 

Why is Japan not in lockdown? It's a question I've been asked numerous times by friends all over the world.

For those trying to understand what's going on in Japan, the much more puzzling question is why there is so little testing for Covid-19.

[Mavideol]

21 hours ago, DUNROAMIN said:

Quote, China was not on that list. Why? 

Simple, The CCP is showing its true colors, they don't give a toss about what they have done to the world economy and nearly 500,000 dead from their virus, which was known to them from early November last year, but decided not to tell anyone until mid January that it can be transmitted human to human. Not to mention, that they shut down Wuhan province for domestic travel, however, let thousands of their people leave from Wuhan on International flights around the world which started the Pandemic. The CCP are nothing but thugs and I hope this is the beginning that will bring down this brutal regime.

and now the CCP is playing the victim card

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/12/twitter-takes-down-china-linked-accounts-spreading-disinformation.html

Twitter has taken down thousands of accounts linked to China that were part of a “manipulative and coordinated” campaign to spread disinformation around topics including the Hong Kong protests and the coronavirus.

 

[zhounan]

I suggest virtual travel with Skype, of course foreigners must pay everything.????

[JCP108]

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

and now the CCP is playing the victim card

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/12/twitter-takes-down-china-linked-accounts-spreading-disinformation.html

Twitter has taken down thousands of accounts linked to China that were part of a “manipulative and coordinated” campaign to spread disinformation around topics including the Hong Kong protests and the coronavirus.

 

And, this...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/12/zoom-admits-cutting-off-activists-accounts-in-obedience-to-china

 

China got Zoom to close meetings and cancel accounts of people who were connected to anti-government protests. This affected people even not inside China.

[JCP108]

1 hour ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

In china they are keeping their eye on a new outbrake because there have just been reported new infections probably connecting to a meat market so in my mind it's the most stupid thing to do to let them be the first to come back in to thailand by the thousands or 100thousands .

I just saw China logged 56 new cases today. Wasn't it a max of 20/day to be on the preferred list here?

[EricTh]

1 hour ago, JCP108 said:

I just saw China logged 56 new cases today. Wasn't it a max of 20/day to be on the preferred list here?

 

57 is nothing compared to the thousands in Europe, North and South America daily cases.

 

China is a huge country and is the combination of all of European countries.

 

You can't compare one country with another country. It's like comparing an elephant (1.4 billion people) with an ant (25 million in Australia). 

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

 

Let's see the figures during the next 1 to 2 weeks.

 

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by EricTh

[Destiny1990]

Oh well the next day another plan..

[cbc]

Just watching the news plus heard it yesterday 2020/06/14 china Beijing experiencing a second wave of the virus and closed down a market of over four thousand vendor's trying to find out origin of latest out break.

[JCP108]

As things are getting so bubbly, (I know I'm not the first to ask, but am super curious) how the <deleted> do the bubbles work if not everyone has the same bubbles? I saw today that Indonesia is crafting a bubble that doesn't include Thailand but does include China. If Thailand's bubble includes China, doesn't that have the same outcome of including Indonesia in its bubble (even though one wouldn't be able to fly directly between Thailand and Indonesia in that scenario). 

 

Confused in Bangkok.

[EvetsKram]

On 6/12/2020 at 7:05 PM, DrJack54 said:

I would be amazed if NZ did that deal.

Also think NZ population is ~5mil.

Bit bigger than say city of Melbourne. Au.

In my travels throughout Thai, I very rarely run into NZ tourists. This is just a smoke screen to cover the zillion Chinese about to be allowed back. Make it look like Thai gov are not just allowing only Chinese.

Yet china is full of covid!  Recently about 1200 villages were in lock down,  now 11 districts in Beijing.  They are keeping a pretty good lid on information getting out but stop 100% of it

[Traubert]

19 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

How you love it in China ?

Just fine thanks.

[Traubert]

19 hours ago, shdmn said:

Hell no.  Maybe you aren't aware but America is pandemic central right now.  Thanks in no small part to incompetent leadership.  I think America is the last country on most peoples lists of places to allow back in.

Yeah that was my reasoning if you follow the exchange back.

[thaibeachlovers]

27 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

As things are getting so bubbly, (I know I'm not the first to ask, but am super curious) how the <deleted> do the bubbles work if not everyone has the same bubbles? I saw today that Indonesia is crafting a bubble that doesn't include Thailand but does include China. If Thailand's bubble includes China, doesn't that have the same outcome of including Indonesia in its bubble (even though one wouldn't be able to fly directly between Thailand and Indonesia in that scenario). 

 

Confused in Bangkok.

They know we are all going to be in the deep doodoo over all the job losses, so IMO trying to divert attention with a mythical "bubble". It's a well known political ploy. Given China now has the inevitable second wave any country that includes China even second or third hand is asking for trouble.

[DrJack54]

20 minutes ago, EvetsKram said:

Yet china is full of covid!  Recently about 1200 villages were in lock down,  now 11 districts in Beijing.  They are keeping a pretty good lid on information getting out but stop 100% of it

Some rubbish comes out of China from "government news sites" and others making stuff up. Regardless keep an eye on the topic header. It's reads as a joke.

China population, what is it 1.7 billion

NZ~ 5 mil. I can't even find stats on how many Kiwis visit Thailand. Reason is that it's too low.

This thread is an absolute nonsense apart from pointing out the obvious.

The government is so stupid they cannot even play the sensible card. Something like this...... " The government looks to having bubble with ONE country that we can monitor. We are currently in discussion with several countries. Decision made asap"

And the result is ......

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by DrJack54

[Traubert]

13 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

Nobody outside of China (except China’s outside cheerleaders), should believe CCP propaganda.

Did you miss the news about the new Beijing Wuhan virus lockdown?

No, I said why. The question is clear enough.

 

If that's your only answer the conclusion is inevitable.

[Traubert]

6 hours ago, JCP108 said:

I just saw China logged 56 new cases today. Wasn't it a max of 20/day to be on the preferred list here?

Yes, but they have to fly, y'know be on a airplane that lands in Thailand.

 

Jeez........

[Traubert]

1 hour ago, cbc said:

Just watching the news plus heard it yesterday 2020/06/14 china Beijing experiencing a second wave of the virus and closed down a market of over four thousand vendor's trying to find out origin of latest out break.

Or put more accurately 56 infected people. Not 4000.

 

They dd find an infected doorstop, anybody owing up?

[Traubert]

37 minutes ago, EvetsKram said:

Yet china is full of covid!  Recently about 1200 villages were in lock down,  now 11 districts in Beijing.  They are keeping a pretty good lid on information getting out but stop 100% of it

Made up rubbish.

[Traubert]

19 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They know we are all going to be in the deep doodoo over all the job losses, so IMO trying to divert attention with a mythical "bubble". It's a well known political ploy. Given China now has the inevitable second wave any country that includes China even second or third hand is asking for trouble.

Does 56 people constitute a 'second wave?'

[DrTuner]

New Zealand: a country with little corruption that got it under control, largely thanks to low population density, effective measures and being in the middle of nowhere.

 

China: an utterly festering communist piece of land with every single bit of information crafted for propaganda by the CCP, the original source of the virus.

 

Thailand: Thinks can fit these together into it's fantasy bubble.

[Isaan sailor]

On 6/13/2020 at 10:32 AM, SuwadeeS said:

3. Everybody should be more critical about their political environment.

Unfortunately, critical thinking is not taught here in the educational system.

[EricTh]

I just read the news that Indonesia is allowing 4 countries in their travel bubble.\

 

I predict that Thailand will also want these 4 countries as tourists.

 

They are China, South Korea, Japan and Australia. Surprisingly, Thailand is not on their travel bubble.

 

 

Edited June 14, 2020 by EricTh