RBOP Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Meaningless and misleading data. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pilotman Posted June 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RBOP said: Meaningless and misleading data. how so? Do you have better data not available to the rest of us? On this index, if you see the whole list, UK comes out at 154 in the World, which sounds about right. Thailand have done well to contain the virus, kudos to them and to we who expat here. Edited June 15, 2020 by Pilotman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 At what price remains unclear though ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Morty T said: Just basic math, don't test, lower results. exactly. They can't use data that has not been collected. No conspiracy here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 And at number 154 (drumroll, please) is the United Kingdom! They're doing better than Somalia (just), but still below Venezuela. (Europeans, please note Belgium is at 150, the Netherlands at 162 and Sweden way down at 171) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wensiensheng Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Borzandy said: Forgot NZ and... and... Not many deaths in New Zealand. So not much to recover from. Unsurprisingly they don’t figure because to all intents and purposes they don’t qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 6 hours ago, webfact said: expressed his thanks to everyone in the country for their discipline Please no my sides can't stand it. I the real world certainly out of Bangkok nothing changed at all, no distancing at all, still eating form the same shared cutlery bowls etc. Mask only raised to go into a shop,many at half mast, Thais constantly touching their masks . Ill await the full scientific research later for Thailands low death rate as far as I can see it certainly was not the Thais controlling this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snig27 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 5 hours ago, rasmus5150 said: If you only test a small percentage with faulty tests, and also "try" to fiddle the actual numbers so you can spin that Thailand is safe - then I'm surprised that Thailand did not come in 1st place. If it's a toss up between a bank of highly qualified professionals and your bar-room opinion guess which way most thinking people will go.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, mr mr said: no need to thank us PM. we were only following your wise and confident decision making. THANK YOU pm for keeping thailand safe during this whole pandemic. you deserve a rest. take a holiday. buy one get one free for hotels soon. Id suggest the U.S, UK or Brazil for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 minute ago, wensiensheng said: Not many deaths in New Zealand. So not much to recover from. Unsurprisingly they don’t figure because to all intents and purposes they don’t qualify yes, quite. people are too quick to jump on the band wagon of knocking the study. It's a statistical analysis, no more than that, with boundaries and limitations. It should be treated as a useful indicator, one of many around right now, not as the solid gold position. I guess some people skipped statistics in school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snig27 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Pilotman said: exactly. They can't use data that has not been collected. No conspiracy here. I understand there is a global movement to drop the science and instead rely on the TV forum members, yourself included, for the primary data on this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Snig27 said: I understand there is a global movement to drop the science and instead rely on the TV forum members, yourself included, for the primary data on this. Seems to be working with blm Edited June 15, 2020 by bodga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, bodga said: Please no my sides can't stand it. I the real world certainly out of Bangkok nothing changed at all, no distancing at all, still eating form the same shared cutlery bowls etc. Mask only raised to go into a shop,many at half mast, Thais constantly touching their masks . Ill await the full scientific research later for Thailands low death rate as far as I can see it certainly was not the Thais controlling this. yes, and that is precisely why it didn't spread. The village communities were in effect isolated in their own specific areas, where they could farm and carry out normal daily tasks in isolation from the rest of the communities , same in many other Asian countries. neighbouring villages in my mother in laws area were isolated together as one community, nobody in, nobody out, but for deliveries, for two months. Nobody caught the virus. Good on the Head Men for arranging it. Why so quick to condemn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: We have some rather creative journalism going on here with conflicting reports on the data used to compile these rankings. In the NNT National News Bureau of Thailand report it states: "To decide rankings, 70 percent of the score was assessed from the drive and changes of the daily situation based on the number of patients under treatment; the rate of cured patients per number of patients; the number of tests per confirmed patients and the number of tests per population of the whole country" The above in my opinion is complete spin and not a true reflection of how the data was complied, how a country like Thailand with such low testing ratios compared to the rest of the world could get ranked so high? The truth probably being that the data was not at all compiled as above. The actual data gathering for the first 70% score assessment did not include testing information or data on number of daily patients under treatment at all. Instead it relied solely on the number of deaths per captia as stated in their report: "Proportionate Death Rate due to COVID-19 This parameter takes into consideration the crude death rates of each country and factors its population size, and then compares this to the death rates due to COVID-19 since the first case was reported in the country. This gives a true reflection of how death rates are being affected by COVID-19 in these countries. The remaining 30% consist of static scores derived from the Global Health Security Index (GHS), an initiative led by the Johns Hopkins University that was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. The GHS was developed to assess a country’s readiness to cope and handle any epidemic." https://covid19.pemandu.org/about/ I am unsure if they only counted deaths in hospitals but that is what I heard. Maybe someone can confirm Hardly any testing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Ha ha....... Thailand doing what it does best........ More lies than a cheap Chinese watch...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pravda Posted June 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2020 Haters gonna hate, but did any of you get sick? Went back home? You should have considering the whine. Perhaps Thailand simply dodged the bullet, but who cares. This amazing country just can't be stopped. From Thailand dreamer to hater and back to lover again. Yes, I bought a condo. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, rasmus5150 said: If you only test a small percentage with faulty tests, and also "try" to fiddle the actual numbers so you can spin that Thailand is safe - then I'm surprised that Thailand did not come in 1st place. So? What are the real numbers? thousands of COVID-19 related deaths? Millions? Similar to some developed countries? Please do enlighten the general public of the true figures. These graphics are becoming too boring now...even after many, many beers. Edited June 15, 2020 by ravip 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ravip Posted June 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2020 45 minutes ago, RBOP said: Meaningless and misleading data. Similar comment... 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 hours ago, cyril sneer said: they might make 1st place for most damaged economy, we'll see next year... They'll contest it if they get on that list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallen52 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 SO here's a suggestion. Allow Australian people to return to their homes in Thailand and anyone else who wants to get back. One country at a time. Starting with the number one for covid19 recovery. No quarantine or crazy insurance cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick501 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Borzandy said: Forgot NZ and... and... Perhaps try reading the assessment criteria? Edited June 15, 2020 by Mick501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunKenAP Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Hard to believe with all the screwups at the start, such as not closing the borders and bringing in as many Chinese as possible. Must be using Thai math to calculate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marquis22 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Where are the stats on controlling road deaths and atmospheric smoke damage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Thailand should be able to bring tourism numbers back up to normal just by implementing "Bubble Tourism" agreements with most of Africa.???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sscc Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) Have confidence in Thailand medical system during good time and bad time. Well done Thailand Edited June 15, 2020 by sscc 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Cook Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 Lies damn lies and statistics. It would be hilarious if it didn't kill people. Amazing how nobody is talking about the huge social ramifications. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 4 hours ago, barrykay said: i am from Australia. no way are we ahead of NZ or the real champs....Taiwan. where is No. 8 Lithonia? it can't be Lithuania because they are hopeless. I wonder did the Gullivers Travel Company include the land of Lithonia for this survey. what about latvia......and sweden....?? iceland....greenland....??? faroe islands??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traubert Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 hours ago, kiwikeith said: Read the NZ herald today an exclusive report about China cover up of actual cases and deaths said to be under reported by at least ten times. So pork pies have been rife in China Because NZ says so. Right....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essox essox Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 1 hour ago, dallen52 said: SO here's a suggestion. Allow Australian people to return to their homes in Thailand and anyone else who wants to get back. One country at a time. Starting with the number one for covid19 recovery. No quarantine or crazy insurance cover. my ozzie mate told me a couple of days ago that HE could be struggling to get a visa to return thailand..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted June 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2020 3 hours ago, kiwikeith said: Read the NZ herald today an exclusive report about China cover up of actual cases and deaths said to be under reported by at least ten times. So pork pies have been rife in China and LOS wants to open up to them as a safe country. Yea read that, its from a new study by Mai He, Li Li, Louis P Dehner, Lucia Dunn The study says that, based on its inferred data, China may have had anywhere between 305,000 and 1.27 million Covid-19 cases by February 7. The number of dead, it finds, was likely already about 6800 to 7200. Official figures released by Beijing at this time reported only 13,600 infections and 545 dead. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.28.20116012v1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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