Trump takes hard line on U.S. monuments, threatens force against protesters

[Eric Loh]

13 minutes ago, DoctorG said:

Your post makes no sense.

You should avoid posting things that you don’t understand and has no knowledge. 

[Deli]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

of George Floyd, a Black man killed in police custody.

Shouldn't it say a Black criminal resisting arrest ?

Edited June 24, 2020 by Deli

[Saint Nick]

10 minutes ago, Deli said:

Shouldn't it say a Black criminal resisting arrest ?

No, it shouldn't!

Unless you are living in a racist -whataboutism- echochamber!

[Bluespunk]

45 minutes ago, Deli said:

Shouldn't it say a Black criminal resisting arrest ?

No

[mikebike]

9 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Calling/framing what these people are doing as 'protesting' is so far devoid of any logic that it would be almost amusing if the repercussions weren't so severe. 

 

The actions of these black-clad rioters is the polar opposite of 'protesting' and even the VERY FIRST AMENDMENT describes it:

 

 

These people have been toppling statues for weeks now and its high time they stopped. 

I'm sorry, how is knocking down statues not peaceful? Is violence against inanimate objects a thing in your world?

[Mama Noodle]

Just now, mikebike said:

I'm sorry, how is knocking down statues not peaceful? Is violence against inanimate objects a thing in your world?

 

Dumbest post of the day, and thats saying something coming out of this Forum. 

[mikebike]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

that's past ... move on. 

Was that steven100 or did a Black Lives Matter operative spoof his I.D.?

[mikebike]

2 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Monument removal, digital book-burning. censorship, and outright destroying livelihoods. All happening. All communist ideals.

What is, "digital book burning"?

[mikebike]

9 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Dumbest post of the day, and thats saying something coming out of this Forum. 

So you can't figure out a way to twist vandalism into violence. Didn't think so.

[IAMHERE]

9 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

You just can't go and destroy stuff that isnt yours, any way you cut it. 

But you can. In fact, much better to burn(destroy) something that doesn't belong to you. Even bystanders think go ahead and burn it, it don't belong to me. 

[Bluespunk]

3 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Your post makes no sense.

Makes perfect sense. 

[aj73]

Fascinating to read such nonsense. You clearly don't know how the US legal system works, and you sure as hell don't have a clue when you state, "majority of Americans".. 

 

Then again I don't read ThaiVisa for the news anyway... It's not like there's such a thing as journalistic integrity in the world anyone.. 

 

If you think ANTIFA and BLM are anything other than paid Marxist organizations then you should get your head examined... 

 

It's not about racism, it's about control.

[Dap]

11 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

 

Calling/framing what these people are doing as 'protesting' is so far devoid of any logic that it would be almost amusing if the repercussions weren't so severe. 

 

The actions of these black-clad rioters is the polar opposite of 'protesting' and even the VERY FIRST AMENDMENT describes it:

 

 

These people have been toppling statues for weeks now and its high time they stopped. 

Why, is it high time they stopped? Because you said so? Far too many very peaceful protesters are demanding that the bigotry of the U.S., and in fact all around the civilized world, cease! and for a very first in America are standing up and saying so. Too da*n bad you don't like it, cuz it's a whole lot bigger than you are.

[newnative]

     Can't stand Trump but I am with him on protecting national monuments from destruction.  You can protest and make your point without destroying property, both personal and public.  

[Dap]

25 minutes ago, car720 said:

No it is not.  As usual it is the vocal minority that have got no respect for others whatsoever.

Wow, you actually consider this worldwide upheaval to be unsubstantial enough to identify as a ... minority?  Really?

[twocatsmac]

24 minutes ago, Dap said:

Wow, you actually consider this worldwide upheaval to be unsubstantial enough to identify as a ... minority?  Really?

Representing my old northern English town of 85,000, 50 unwashed, scruffy, unemployable, drug using toerags attended the BLM protest.

Same goes for all the similar towns. 

City protests attract more due to rioting and looting possibilities granted.

(not even well supported here on thaivisa)

So worldwide upheaval it ain’t, even with media help and hype this anti white racist rant is limited to the minds of a minority. 

Edited June 24, 2020 by twocatsmac

[3NUMBAS]

water cannons needed to flush em away

[sead]

Blm my ass. Antifa and all those looters needs to be shot at sight. This has gone to far. 

[EVENKEEL]

It's time for Trump to make good on his words and put the hammer down, these young people are doomed to a life of stupidity and despair and will blame it on society.  

Kum Bah Yah America....

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/three-armed-men-tell-reporter-they-are-keeping-police-out-of-area-where-rayshard-brooks-died

[DoctorG]

Now they are taking down a statue of someone on their side.

Christian Heg was an anti-slavery activist who fought and died for the Union during the U.S. Civil War.

 

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/2020/06/24/madison-protesters-pull-down-forward-hans-christian-heg-statues-attack-senator-sculptures-in-lake/3247948001/

[Stargeezr]

A protest does not involve the protesters or their group to harm or damage or destroy

property,  Dap,  so if you are supporting the people who do damage to what is not theirs,

then are you any better than these criminals?  People who are trying to topple statues

are not protesters anymore, they are doing a criminal act, Period. I cannot support

criminals, and I do not support many protests as well. In the USA especially, it seems that

a lot of the population do not know how to protest peacefully, as so many of the protests

end with property damage and damage to cars and trucks as well. Just my opinion.

Geezer

[rabas]

A Venezuela activist has warned the US about its current path of destroying statues, its history, and where it leads.  It's a very slippery slope, she says.

 

Venezuela, is warning America, of where the Democrats have taken the country.

 

A lot of Chinese would say the same, if they could speak.

 

Edited June 25, 2020 by rabas

[rabas]

29 minutes ago, vogie said:

Does anyone else think these people should be locked up, even if it's just for their own safety?

Winston Churchill once famously said that the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter*. Perhaps his status should be made from indestructible stainless steel.

 

* 'They say' he said that.

 

 

Edited June 25, 2020 by rabas

[morrobay]

On 6/24/2020 at 7:16 AM, steven100 said:

bring in the military and start using rubber bullets & tear gas,  start locking the protesters up.

nothing more than thug vandals who need to be arrested.

And nothing less than that is the only solution. The military should have been activated on day one. And if not enough space in local jails then military bases. This is becoming a civil war and high time overwhelming force is necessary. 

[kevinsan]

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."

[Morch]

13 hours ago, Dap said:

Wow, you actually consider this worldwide upheaval to be unsubstantial enough to identify as a ... minority?  Really?

 

Upheaval? If and when something actually changes, perhaps. Remains to be seen. Worldwide? Sorta, not in every country, not in the same force, not even with same agenda always. And hyperbole aside, it is not a worldwide majority or even a US one. Most people do not partake, most people aren't fully signed to all that's related to the protests, the vandalism and violence in particular.

[Morch]

36 minutes ago, morrobay said:

And nothing less than that is the only solution. The military should have been activated on day one. And if not enough space in local jails then military bases. This is becoming a civil war and high time overwhelming force is necessary. 

 

If this is becoming a civil war (hyperbole, but let's entertain the notion) then bringing in the Army might have some consequences - such as soldiers siding with protests, for example. Further, armed forces aren't really well equipped or well trained to deal with this. More likely someone will go overboard and just make things worse. Don't recall USA generals being much in favor of the Army's involvement, but what do they know, eh?

[Morch]

14 hours ago, aj73 said:

Fascinating to read such nonsense. You clearly don't know how the US legal system works, and you sure as hell don't have a clue when you state, "majority of Americans".. 

 

Then again I don't read ThaiVisa for the news anyway... It's not like there's such a thing as journalistic integrity in the world anyone.. 

 

If you think ANTIFA and BLM are anything other than paid Marxist organizations then you should get your head examined... 

 

It's not about racism, it's about control.

 

So where do you get your news from?

Doubt you could provide any serious support for the ANTIFA/BLM comment.

 

[DoctorG]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

So where do you get your news from?

Doubt you could provide any serious support for the ANTIFA/BLM comment.

 

Don't know if this will survive but here is the BLM founders saying they are Marxist trained. I might look more into ANTIFA later.

Edited June 25, 2020 by DoctorG

[DoctorG]

ANTIFA was formed as a communist organisation in Germany in the 1930s. There are lots of articles online expanding upon this topic but I doubt any of them would be allowed on this forum.

It is, however, quite easy to find Soviet flags and symbols displayed alongside the ANTIFA flag at rallies.

People can make up their own minds as to the deeper association.