Pattaya: Bars and clubs won't open despite bans ending

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

And the bottom line is that most pubs and bars and discos rely on foreign clientele. 

They are not in Thailand yet and until they are, many bars will just stay shut and wait.

 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Much of their reluctance concerns the 22 new rules about what patrons can and can't do.

 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Social distancing measures alone will mean if they are to follow the rules they will be at 50% capacity.

 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Then there is the extra cost of cleaning and health monitoring devices.

 

6 hours ago, webfact said:

This will involve extra staffing and extra expense. They will be needed to enforce where patrons can walk, stop them singing and dancing. It will just not be worth it.

In other words, if we can't open and operate like we used to then we won't open.

 

[SupermarineS6B]

5 hours ago, smedly said:

if they don't get it now they never will

It's a bitter pill they just can't swallow..... 

[Walter Travolta]

37 minutes ago, robblok said:

You need to keep up but maybe all the alcohol is affecting your brain. I have no love for Prayut been that way for ages. Have been a fan of FFW since it was formed and it was a sad day when they were shut down. 

 

I am thinking that the government is lying have been so for a long time. If you look at the stats the BBC posted over extra deaths and it shows like 2300+ so a lot went unreported. So corvid is still out there. 

 

Having said that its still like a 20 times better performance then the UK in corvid stats. 

Why did you not answer the question and why did you deflect onto something irrelevant? Maybe the scent from the barmaids apron has got you a tad squiffy

The question was, there are no reported cases for a month in Thailand why the rules? And you keep rabbiting on about it not being safe. If there are zero new cases, how is that not safe?
For much longer than a month, people have been congregating on Soi Buckhao like flocks of sheep, no new cases. Bars have been open here and there, no new cases. Loads of available girls to screw, no new cases even though they will have been exchanging saliva!

Have you tried that alcohol gel on your undies to see if it removes skidmarks?

[newnative]

    Way too restrictive.  Should just have temp. check, sign in and out, some extra cleaning, and limit capacity.  See how it goes for a few weeks.  I just had lunch at a restaurant today and tables were limited to 2 people but there really wasn't any social distancing between tables and no screens anywhere.  I was sitting in a booth and there was someone right behind me in a booth with no screen.  If that's the social distancing for restaurants, bars shouldn't be any different and let people decide for themselves if they want to go in or not.  

[Krataiboy]

6 hours ago, robblok said:

So its not the government keeping them closed its the owners thinking it wont be profitable if they have to follow the rules. 

 

I don't get it what is the problem with the 50% capacity. I mean its not as if they would be at 100% capacity in low season anyway. 

 

 

Would you open a business to make a loss?????

[Scouse123]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

I believe they did far better then in the west. So yes I think the harsh lockdown helped us. But now they are going to risk it all again by opening borders and opening entertainment area's.

 

Just opening the entertainment area's isnt that bad if they kept the borders locked down.

 

 

And just how long do you think the borders should stay closed? One month? One year?

 

Wait for a vaccine which might never arrive?, in the meantime the economy collapses!

 

Lucky you aren't in charge of the country.

 

What you mean is the current situation suits your personal circumstances and never mind the other 68 million people?

[Sumarianson]

We have been on this earth for millions of years and have survived woth the strength of our immune sustems. The virus is a weak virus not having the impact of a flu even. This government is happy to take away the living of millions of people and offers nothing in return. If people do not protest this infringement on peoples freedoms then the future is bleak for all. 

[paulikens]

nonsense. most will open

[Scouse123]

4 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Would you open a business to make a loss?????

 

NO.

 

 

[paulikens]

1 minute ago, Scouse123 said:

 

 

And just how long do you think the borders should stay closed? One month? One year?

 

Wait for a vaccine which might never arrive?, in the meantime the economy collapses!

 

Lucky you aren't in charge of the country.

 

What you mean is the current situation suits your personal circumstances and never mind the other 68 million people?

hes one of the im alright jack sod the rest.lot of em on here

[Time to grow]

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

and do you think that they will remember it when the good times comes rolling back?...

Sorry to break it to you but the "good times" wont be coming back, ever...

 

We are in the midst of a paradigm shift and the sooner the masses figure it out, the better off they will be.

[Don Mega]

43 minutes ago, Ventenio said:

100 baht beer delivered in COVID free container

100 baht to look at girl in covid plastic box 

300 baht if want to talk to girl, since dangerous.

500 baht to buy covid PPE from bar, safety first

1000 baht to leave with girl, buying her PPE covid sex-free covering

5000 baht for covid sex insurance

1000 baht fine if in bathroom together and not 2 meters apart

1000 baht fine if take off mask.

 

let the good times roll......

3 big Leo's - 165b @ 7/11.

Access to Thaifreindly on phone - Free.

Short time room rental - 300b.

Motosai for TF lady - 200b.

Ladies GTFO fee 2 hours later - 1000b.

 

 

[BobBKK]

4 hours ago, robblok said:

Bit strange.. but point being why would we have to live do anything if bars are not going to do the same. Might as wel stop totally and let the virus take hold. 

what virus?  its mortality is 0.3% and thats those tested!  millions more have it and recover - it's a FLU!  more people have died in Thailand in one day on the roads than in 6 months of this MADNESS.

[tribalfusion001]

5 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

3 big Leo's - 165b @ 7/11.

Access to Thaifreindly on phone - Free.

Short time room rental - 300b.

Motosai for TF lady - 200b.

Ladies GTFO fee 2 hours later - 1000b.

 

 

Your generous giving 200 thb for motorcycle for lady, I say it's included in their fee or get the MRT/BTS.

[paulikens]

1 minute ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Your generous giving 200 thb for motorcycle for lady, I say it's included in their fee or get the MRT/BTS.

same as me i dont give em traveling expenses????

[Jiggo]

No Tourists, No Bar openings and No Bar openings no tourists come. OK I understand now....

[Don Mega]

Just now, tribalfusion001 said:

Your generous giving 200 thb for motorcycle for lady, I say it's included in their fee or get the MRT/BTS.

Yeah up here in Pattaya its a bit of a hike for the lass to catch the MRT/BTS and I hate to be thought of a cheap charlie so its no issue to front the Taxi, it is peanuts after all.

[tribalfusion001]

10 minutes ago, paulikens said:

nonsense. most will open

Most will open to no customers, sound business plan. I was down Soi Cowboy on the last night they were open, Baccara had hardly any girls working and not many customers, this was when tourists were still entering the country.

 

There is now no tourists entering the country and the one's left are slowly leaving. If you want a girl go online and if want a berr go to a sports bar or Thai bar.

[tribalfusion001]

Just now, Don Mega said:

Yeah up here in Pattaya its a bit of a hike for the lass to catch the MRT/BTS and I hate to be thought of a cheap charlie so its no issue to front the Taxi, it is peanuts after all.

In that case, it's fine 555

[thailand49]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Good point then to keep them closed. Its exactly as you said the things people want to do in a bar cant be done safe because of corvid and people will break the rules ASAP. So why open them at all if people dont even want to adhere to the rules.

 

When I go shopping i follow all the rules why would bars be exempt.

Same here but even before the virus as soon as a girl is on my lap all rules are off the table!????

[prakhonchai nick]

5 hours ago, KhunKenAP said:

You can bet the police will be checking all open bars and arrest any patron's and bar owners for a single violation of any of the 22 rules. I would estimate the odds of anyone in a bar frequented by farangs being busted at around 90%. Of course there will be mass confusion on what is OK or Not OK. They will arrest first and ask questions later, so they can get picture in the news media.

 

Best they stay closed until these stupid 22 rules go away. 

Arrest them? of course not. Why should the police now start to do their job properly? The usual backhanders will be requested. Don't forget the police have not had most of their usual perks for the past 3/4 months. A few hundred baht will come in very handy

[Marley01]

6 hours ago, smedly said:

if they don't get it now they never will

Solution, get the Chinese, Indians and South Koreans in.

methinks many a brown paper bag is being distributed

[dpcjsr]

Closing down the entertainment in Pattaya is exactly what the do gooders in government have been wanting for a long time. Now it is happening. Coincidence? 

[NoshowJones]

6 hours ago, smedly said:

if they don't get it now they never will

They never will.

[hugocnx]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Good point then to keep them closed. Its exactly as you said the things people want to do in a bar cant be done safe because of corvid and people will break the rules ASAP. So why open them at all if people dont even want to adhere to the rules.

 

When I go shopping i follow all the rules why would bars be exempt.

No you are not following all the rules because you can't. So, are you swirling around the other shoppers bewaring the 1.5 mtr distance rule. Don't think so.

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Bit strange.. but point being why would we have to live do anything if bars are not going to do the same. Might as wel stop totally and let the virus take hold. 

According to the government Rob, there is no virus, that is about a month now, so why all the rules? Unless the government is not being truthful. but IMO they are just enjoying the power trips.

[paulikens]

28 minutes ago, tribalfusion001 said:

Most will open to no customers, sound business plan. I was down Soi Cowboy on the last night they were open, Baccara had hardly any girls working and not many customers, this was when tourists were still entering the country.

 

There is now no tourists entering the country and the one's left are slowly leaving. If you want a girl go online and if want a berr go to a sports bar or Thai bar.

i agree. i said they would open i didnt say they would have any customers but i guarantee most of em open, and anyway at least a qtr if not half are pretty much empty all year round down to the fact they are just "cleaning" money!   also surely sports bars cant be open as the new rules state no showing football etc that might attract big crowds

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, robblok said:

I was talking about corvid rules. Because if one part is not following them all get infected. So it makes no sense to follow any of them. 

 

As for driving without a helmet I dont mind people doing it as long as the guys in the cars that hit (and kill) them don't have to pay out if is proven its caused by not wearing an helmet. Let them kill themselves. I wear an helmet not for the police but for my safety. 

You are basing your presumption on a nation that has alot of infected people like the US, the UK, etc. Just not the case here. The 22 rules are a huge over reaction by men who know very little and were not hired  based on merit. 

 

My guess is that some small bars will reopen. Most will just take a huge hit. And the longer a place is closed, the harder it is to reopen.

 

We will be seeing massive vacancy and unemployment for quite some time to come here. 

[aspenbkk]

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

Do you think that by now, Thai people realised and it dawned on them that basically without foreigners this country is pretty much back to being a farm and agriculture oriented country, no better than many other poor third world countries around the world.. and do you think that they will remember it when the good times comes rolling back?...

You are 100% right there nail on the head. 

[herwin1234]

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

Do you think that by now, Thai people realised and it dawned on them that basically without foreigners this country is pretty much back to being a farm and agriculture oriented country, no better than many other poor third world countries around the world.. and do you think that they will remember it when the good times comes rolling back?...

so thats how you think? "without us foreigners (no doubt you mean western foreigners, not chinese foreigners) Thailand would be a farming country, its our dollars and euros that keeps the economy afloat."

No foreigners and Thailand how we know it would cease to excist.

wow. thats sooooo interesting.