UDD core members in prison after the Supreme Court’s rejects leniency call

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UDD core members in prison after the Supreme Court’s rejects leniency call

 

 

Thailand’s Supreme Court has dismissed the pleas for leniency by five former and active core members of the red-shirt movement. The court upheld the two year and eight month sentence, issued by the Appeals Court, for their leading roles in the violent siege of the residence of the late Privy Council President Prem Tinsulanonda in 2007.

 

The Supreme Court’s decision was read this morning (Friday) by the Criminal Court, with the five convicts present in court, namely Mr. Veerakan Musikapong, former leader of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), Mr. Nopparut Worachitwutthikul, former core leader of the White Pigeon group, Mr. Natthawuth Saikua, UDD secretary-general, Mr. Wiputhalaeng Pattanaputhai and Dr. Weng Tochirakarn, both core members of the UDD.

 

Seven core members of the red-shirt movement were charged with leading red-shirt protesters in laying siege to the Ban Sisal Thewet residence, during which some of the protesters clashed with police deployed to defend it.  Two were acquitted by the Criminal Court.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/udd-core-members-in-prison-after-the-supreme-courts-rejects-leniency-call/

 

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[marty147]

Glad to see that the yellow shirt leaders, who laid siege to and shut down Bangkok airport, were also subject to court dates and convictions - oh wait...

[robblok]

I think the guy in the middle jattuporn is not in court. Why is his picture used ?  I could be wrong of course with the name.

[rasmus5150]

31 minutes ago, marty147 said:

Glad to see that the yellow shirt leaders, who laid siege to and shut down Bangkok airport, were also subject to court dates and convictions - oh wait...

The founder of Thailand's Yellow Shirt movement, the media mogul Sondhi Limthongkul, has been sentenced to 20 years in prison for corporate fraud.

 

Many more are actually in jail. So not only Reds go to jail.....

[scorecard]

15 minutes ago, robblok said:

I think the guy in the middle jattuporn is not in court. Why is his picture used ?  I could be wrong of course with the name.

I had the same thought. 

The list of people convicted (in this report) for this particular incursion doesn't include his name.

MAYBE HE'S IN JAIL ALREADY!

[holy cow cm]

And is this just another extension to wiping or keeping any opposition silent?

[sweatalot]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

I had the same thought. 

The list of people convicted (in this report) for this particular incursion doesn't include his name.

MAYBE HE'S IN JAIL ALREADY!

Wouldn't it be nice ?

[scorecard]

23 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

And is this just another extension to wiping or keeping any opposition silent?

They were charged with a legitimate and serious crime? 

Much recorded on video, but your suggesting it's all just a ruse to control the people, is that it?

[holy cow cm]

3 minutes ago, scorecard said:

They were charged with a legitimate and serious crime? 

Much recorded on video, but your suggesting it's all just a ruse to control the people, is that it?

No what i am implying is it is a way to keep the opposition of the regime silent and out of the lime light. The courts could have easily released them. There are many big wigs who never get brought up on charges or if they do they get dropped. I personally feel that big cheese P and side kick little P ground hog should not have immunity for the many things they have done.

[scorecard]

19 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

No what i am implying is it is a way to keep the opposition of the regime silent and out of the lime light. The courts could have easily released them. There are many big wigs who never get brought up on charges or if they do they get dropped. I personally feel that big cheese P and side kick little P ground hog should not have immunity for the many things they have done.

The incident was violent and was recorded and was shown for days on many Thai TV channels.

Perhaps it goes without saying that in such circumstances the court didn't want to just tell them go home and thereby reinforce the long-term already very unbalanced judicial process and results record. 

 

Edited June 26, 2020 by scorecard

[holy cow cm]

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

The incident was violent and was recorded and was shown for days on many Thai TV channels.

Perhaps it goes without saying that in such circumstances the court didn't want to just tell them go home and thereby reinforce the long-term already very unbalanced judicial process and results record. 

 

It was only violent mainly because the police were told by the military to attack the protestors. I really think you are blowing it up way more than what really happened. I was here and I also was walking around going through the red protestors camps and barricades. It was a bit surreal and a bit fun.

[scorecard]

48 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

It was only violent mainly because the police were told by the military to attack the protestors. I really think you are blowing it up way more than what really happened. I was here and I also was walking around going through the red protestors camps and barricades. It was a bit surreal and a bit fun.

Yeah, I remember you walking around going through the red protesters camps and barricades.

 

But I wonder if you are confused? Barricades was part of a much earlier event, not the event where they tried to get into Gen Prems' house, different event, different timing.

 

'... the police were told by the military to attack the protestors....'

Are you confused again? Throughout most of that era the police were controlled by Thaksin and the police were frightened to NOT do as he ordered.

 

 

 

Edited June 26, 2020 by scorecard

[Donutz]

Will they share the same prison or cell as the PRDC leaders such as Suthep? 

 

Ohhh... this is different?

[RichardColeman]

Could be a warning to all those planning mass gatherings after state of emergency ends in 2035

[hanuman2543]

11 hours ago, rasmus5150 said:

The founder of Thailand's Yellow Shirt movement, the media mogul Sondhi Limthongkul, has been sentenced to 20 years in prison for corporate fraud.

 

Many more are actually in jail. So not only Reds go to jail.....

I am quite sure that he recently received a royal pardon and it now enjoying his "well deserved freedom".

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2019/09/05/yellowshirt-leader-freed-from-jail-early-under-royal-pardon/

 

So business as usual

Edited June 26, 2020 by hanuman2543

[Donutz]

It's funny how plenty of red's end up behind bars for their protests and what transpired there. But hardly any of the yellows, a few small fish and maybe a bigger one on other charges but released already.  Funny how the courts view the outcome and actions of protests and marches from one camp compared to the other.

 

From what I have gathered my heart and mind say the likes of Suthep , Thaksin, Mark  etc. should all be in jail for being ultimately responsible for all sorts of insurrection,  violence and death. 

 

Some members may find this report from 2018 useful:

https://www.newmandala.org/revisiting-the-prem-compound-clashes/

[ujayujay]

20 hours ago, marty147 said:

Glad to see that the yellow shirt leaders, who laid siege to and shut down Bangkok airport, were also subject to court dates and convictions - oh wait...

 .....you have no Idea!

[Scott Tracy]

Isn't staging a coup d'etat illegal? I don't see any of those people being jailed.

[unblocktheplanet]

12 hours ago, hanuman2543 said:

I am quite sure that he recently received a royal pardon and it now enjoying his "well deserved freedom".

 

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2019/09/05/yellowshirt-leader-freed-from-jail-early-under-royal-pardon/

 

So business as usual

You misunderstand Sondhi's situation. His incarceration had nothing to do with his leadership of Phan Tamit. The charges were purely over business fraud.

 

The Yellows started two coups and I am no fan. But Sondhi was shot numerous times in an assassination attempt and survived only to be sentenced to 20 years both due to default on a business loan not politics. He was jailed at age 68.

 

Do you really think we should lock anyone up until death overtakes them because they owe money to banksters?!? He was pardoned after four years, a decision which may, in fact, have been political. His wife died while he was in prison and they would not let him go to the funeral. Is that not cruel enough for you? The just-us system is pretty merciless once the money is gone. But we all have the opportunity to have a heart.

 

When Sondhi ran Manager Group, they published some great books and hired some awesome journos, good & balanced report him.

 

Now Suthep, on the other hand...

[Donutz]

56 minutes ago, Scott Tracy said:

Isn't staging a coup d'etat illegal? I don't see any of those people being jailed.

It's a capital offence. And I believe so is declaring martial law nation wide (only the king has that authority). Haven't checked Thai law in a while though since it seems to be applied to the letter if you are not 'khon dee' and to be ignored if you are.  

[hanuman2543]

51 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

You misunderstand Sondhi's situation. His incarceration had nothing to do with his leadership of Phan Tamit. The charges were purely over business fraud.

 

The Yellows started two coups and I am no fan. But Sondhi was shot numerous times in an assassination attempt and survived only to be sentenced to 20 years both due to default on a business loan not politics. He was jailed at age 68.

 

Do you really think we should lock anyone up until death overtakes them because they owe money to banksters?!? He was pardoned after four years, a decision which may, in fact, have been political. His wife died while he was in prison and they would not let him go to the funeral. Is that not cruel enough for you? The just-us system is pretty merciless once the money is gone. But we all have the opportunity to have a heart.

 

When Sondhi ran Manager Group, they published some great books and hired some awesome journos, good & balanced report him.

 

Now Suthep, on the other hand...

So what. Do you think that other people in Thai jail's get pardoned so  easy? The fraud case was dragged through the courts for nearly twenty years. Why he didn't accept the first court ruling and did the time while he was young enough? What about the other convictions? Fact is that he was pardoned after serving only 20% of the original ruling. We will see if the UDD leaders will get the same leniency. You are right indeed that this pardon was political.

[Baerboxer]

On 6/26/2020 at 2:56 PM, marty147 said:

Glad to see that the yellow shirt leaders, who laid siege to and shut down Bangkok airport, were also subject to court dates and convictions - oh wait...

 

Chronologically that was later than the offense these Shin dupes were convicted for.

 

They'll get round to that when it suits.

[Baerboxer]

On 6/26/2020 at 3:16 PM, robblok said:

I think the guy in the middle jattuporn is not in court. Why is his picture used ?  I could be wrong of course with the name.

 

I think they just used that photo for Nat, sitting on Jattuporn's left.

 

Both have been imprisoned and both deserved to be.