Covid-19 fallout: More than 100 staff turn up to work only to find out they're sacked

[rooster59]

Covid-19 fallout: More than 100 staff turn up to work only to find out they're sacked

 

Image: Sanook

 

Sanook reported that well over 100 workers turned up at a Japanese owned shock absorber factory in the Amata City industrial estate in Chonburi only to find out that they had been sacked. 

 

Each of 130 workers was called in individually to be told the terms of their surprise dismissal.

 

There was no advance warning. Each was told that the coronavirus pandemic and its devastating effect on the economy meant they could not be kept on. 

 

One ageing employee said they had little chance of finding another job. They begged to be kept on but were denied.

 

A union at KYB (Thailand) is furious with the manner in which the company acted saying at the very least the company should have given advance warning.

 

A first phase of redundancies was announced for 150 people on the 15th of July and now 130 had been let go. 

 

Some complained that they were receiving very little compensation. 

 

Sanook described a tearful scene outside the company on Thursday as friends hugged each other before hearing their fate.

 

Thai Rath reported elsewhere that many of those sacked were 40 years old and up with a lot of financial commitments.

 

Source: Sanook

 

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[thequietman]

The Japanese are generally known for their fairness in employment issues. I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't give some kind of notice, or reward.

Is it possible that the workers were told, but chose to forget it! After all, when a foreigner speaks, they generally don't listen.

 

Anyway, I hope they are successful at finding new employment, although I don't have high hopes for them. ????

[86Tiger]

It is very depressing to read this.  A person middle aged with nice life, family and commitments (not unlike myself) suddenly sees prosperity disappear in an instant.

 

I believe it to be only the beginning of a long term trend world wide.  I do hope to be wrong but all signs are negative.

[Rancid]

Buckle up, this is just a taste of what is coming, for Thailand and many countries. Regardless of whether one believes that lock downs are needed, the price will be mass unemployment, businesses closing and banks being stressed on loans.

 

We had the choice to ride out what in most countries is statistically similar to a bad flu year, or be put under house arrest and lose our jobs and standard of living. We chose fear.

 

Many politicians are now following the Gates line and saying we must wait for a vaccine, despite none yet existing, and if it does it will not have been tested properly. These same bureaucrats, politicians and 2nd rank doctors of course will not be losing their jobs and having their futures ruined. They kept telling up about the new normal but didn't mention the Orwellian future and loss of lifestyle it included. And all to make the vaccine makers even richer...

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

16 hours ago, rooster59 said:

A first phase of redundancies was announced for 150 people on the 15th of July and now 130 had been let go. 

 Given that they had already laid off 150 staff just 10 days ago, the 2nd round of layoffs now couldn't/shouldn't have come as any great surprise.... When a business is spiraling downward, none of the ordinary staff are ultimately going to be safe.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, Rancid said:

We had the choice to ride out what in most countries is statistically similar to a bad flu year,

 In the U.S., which failed to adopt any nationwide protective measures against CV, the annual death toll from the flu is typically 30,000 or so, heading up to 60,000 for really bad years.

 

Thus far from CV, in just 6 months or so, there are 140,000+ dead in the U.S. and heading toward more than 220,000 according to projections. At least for the U.S., CV has been nothing comparable to a bad flu year.

Edited July 25, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[FritsSikkink]

1 hour ago, thequietman said:

I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't give some kind of notice, or reward.

Is it possible that the workers were told, but chose to forget it! After all, when a foreigner speaks, they generally don't listen.

 

What a load of unfounded racist BS

Edited July 25, 2020 by FritsSikkink

[RJRS1301]

20 minutes ago, Rancid said:

Buckle up, this is just a taste of what is coming, for Thailand and many countries. Regardless of whether one believes that lock downs are needed, the price will be mass unemployment, businesses closing and banks being stressed on loans.

 

We had the choice to ride out what in most countries is statistically similar to a bad flu year, or be put under house arrest and lose our jobs and standard of living. We chose fear.

 

Many politicians are now following the Gates line and saying we must wait for a vaccine, despite none yet existing, and if it does it will not have been tested properly. These same bureaucrats, politicians and 2nd rank doctors of course will not be losing their jobs and having their futures ruined. They kept telling up about the new normal but didn't mention the Orwellian future and loss of lifestyle it included. And all to make the vaccine makers even richer...

I see the logic bypass was successful

[englishoak]

10 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

I see the logic bypass was successful

 

Logic would say more are going to die of the reactions and loss of livelihood, wages, and businesses than the virus already projecting untimely deaths due to lack of services, check ups and medical response during this plandemic is going to be in the millions. Not counting the knock on effects of closing down the world is still happening and mounting.. crime will rocket as people fail to make ends meet and so will ill health, both mental and physical. 

 

You havnt thought about it at all properly have you ? 

Edited July 25, 2020 by englishoak

[scammed]

thailand smart shut down economy sure,

whether the cure actually accomplished squat is however questionable,

as the virus effect is now en large a thing of the past in both thailand & sweden,

i.e next to no effect at all any longer,

but sweden has none of the economic side effects thailand have and will continue to have for years

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

[richard_smith237]

Is it me, or is the Xenophobia starting ??... ‘Japanese owned’... 

 

How many Thai companies have been laying off their staff in a similar manner?

 

Not that this is acceptable in any way, but I am wondering if this is only considered newsworthy because its a foreign owned company. 

[bodga]

1 hour ago, thequietman said:

The Japanese are generally known for their fairness in employment issues. I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't give some kind of notice, or reward.

Is it possible that the workers were told, but chose to forget it! After all, when a foreigner speaks, they generally don't listen.

 

Anyway, I hope they are successful at finding new employment, although I don't have high hopes for them. ????

Well  I  have a brand  new  house  built  for  my staff by myself and within a  week of finishing it they upped  and  left, almost  impossible to find staff to work on the land now, doesnt matter what you pay what you  give they dont want it, to be honest on the  point of  throwing in the towel, Thais bone idle  want money for  nothing in many cases

[teacherclaire]

1 hour ago, thequietman said:

The Japanese are generally known for their fairness in employment issues. I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't give some kind of notice, or reward.

Is it possible that the workers were told, but chose to forget it! After all, when a foreigner speaks, they generally don't listen.

 

Anyway, I hope they are successful at finding new employment, although I don't have high hopes for them. ????

Why would they not listen when they're very close to lose their jobs? 

[scammed]

34 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 In the U.S., which failed to adopt any nationwide protective measures against CV, the annual death toll from the flu is typically 30,000 or so, heading up to 60,000 for really bad years.

 

Thus far from CV, in just 6 months or so, there are 140,000+ dead in the U.S. and heading toward more than 220,000 according to projections. At least for the U.S., CV has been nothing comparable to a bad flu year.

“Swine Flu”

The  US Centre for Disease and Control Prevention  (CDC)  estimated that 150, 000 to 575,000 people died from (H1N1) pandemic virus infection in the first year of the outbreak.

• 80% of the virus-related deaths were estimated to occur in those < 65 years of age.

COVID-19

An analysis of countries and US states or major cities with at least 250 COVID-19 deaths as of 4th  April reports that individuals aged <65 accounts for less than 10% of all COVID-19 deaths.

 

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-deaths-compared-with-swine-flu/

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, scammed said:

“Swine Flu”

The  US Centre for Disease and Control Prevention  (CDC)  estimated that 150, 000 to 575,000 people died from (H1N1) pandemic virus infection in the first year of the outbreak.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-deaths-compared-with-swine-flu/

 

The prior poster talking about a bad flu year comparison wasn't talking about a one year of Swine Flu comparison... He was talking about regular flu seasons.

 

And that death range you're quoting above wasn't for the U.S. alone.. That CDC estimate was for the entire world, which again, isn't the comparison that was being discussed.

 

Quote

Actual fatalities ranged between 12,000 and 18,000. However, in a 2012 study, the CDC estimated more than 284,000 possible fatalities worldwide, with range from 150,000 to 575,000.^[

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza#:~:text=Actual fatalities ranged between 12%2C000,swine flu pandemic officially over.

 

COVID deaths in the U.S. alone are already well on the way to surpassing the low end of the CDC's estimate for WORLDWIDE swine flu fatalities. Lets keep our apples and oranges straight here.

 

 

Edited July 25, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Some complained that they were receiving very little compensation.

How much compensation did they get? 3 Months salary? More? Less?

As far as I know labor laws in Thailand are strong. They all should get a reasonable compensation.

[thequietman]

47 minutes ago, teacherclaire said:

Why would they not listen when they're very close to lose their jobs? 

Because the moment a foreigner speaks, they are programmed to switch off, and listen to a Thai person only. I am living her long enough to know, that if I want to enact change, it must appear to come from a Thai. ????

[zyphodb]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

The prior poster talking about a bad flu year comparison wasn't talking about a one year of Swine Flu comparison... He was talking about regular flu seasons.

 

And that death range you're quoting above wasn't for the U.S. alone.. That CDC estimate was for the entire world, which again, isn't the comparison that was being discussed.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza#:~:text=Actual fatalities ranged between 12%2C000,swine flu pandemic officially over.

 

COVID deaths in the U.S. alone are already well on the way to surpassing the low end of the CDC's estimate for WORLDWIDE swine flu fatalities. Lets keep our apples and oranges straight here.

 

 

And it's also been admitted that if you test positive for covid and you died of being run over by a bus the reason for your death was put down to covid, so you can't even start to rely on the death figures...

 

[Oldie]

2 hours ago, scammed said:

thailand smart shut down economy sure,

whether the cure actually accomplished squat is however questionable,

as the virus effect is now en large a thing of the past in both thailand & sweden,

i.e next to no effect at all any longer,

but sweden has none of the economic side effects thailand have and will continue to have for years

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

 

 

This is a very simplified view. A lot of Thailands car production is exported. And if these markets break down it will have consequences here. In the first 5 months these exports dropped by 40 percent. 

 

Edited July 25, 2020 by Oldie

[Khun Paul]

After many years of living here I must say this story does not sound right, as foreign owned companies generally treat their staff far better than Thai run ones. I know of many Thai people being owed wages for weeks or until the Boss remembers to pay them, sometimes never . 

Being as most of them are paid daily or weeklัy, the BOSSES have little incentive to look after their staff, as nowadays too many people looking for jobs . 

I know of one company that just shut the doors, Bosses gone away, staff no money  ,absolutely nothing .

 

Typical Thai attitude run and pay only if caught !! 

[Curt1591]

5 hours ago, rooster59 said:

at the very least the company should have given advance warning.

 

4 hours ago, thequietman said:

I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't give some kind of notice,

Service companies are one thing. The company has little risk, short of a nut-job going postal.

But, when dealing with manufacturing, or merchandise, it is not common practice to inform people they will be let go in advance. When the writing's on the wall, quality often falters, and/or product can sneak out the door. 

It's bad business practice. And, above all, Japanese are business!

 

Edited July 25, 2020 by Curt1591

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Sanook reported that well over 100 workers turned up at a Japanese owned shock absorber factory in the Amata City industrial estate in Chonburi only to find out that they had been sacked. 

A sign of the times and a lot more to come, any company supplying the automotive industry is going to be in for lean times... as car sales drop through the floor output will be cut. That goes right back though the whole supply chain.

[digger70]

6 hours ago, rooster59 said:

A first phase of redundancies was announced for 150 people on the 15th of July and now 130 had been let go. 

The way I read this that they knew about the redundancies.  

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

2 hours ago, zyphodb said:

And it's also been admitted that if you test positive for covid and you died of being run over by a bus the reason for your death was put down to covid, so you can't even start to rely on the death figures...

 

 

There are probably some isolated exceptions like that, just as the medical experts say that the actual death counts of CV around the world at large probably have been considerably undercounted, especially in the early going when lots of people were dying without ever being tested. So your exceptions example doesn't even begin to counter the broader fatality reality.

 

[Letseng]

6 hours ago, thequietman said:

The Japanese are generally known for their fairness in employment issues. I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't give some kind of notice, or reward.

Is it possible that the workers were told, but chose to forget it! After all, when a foreigner speaks, they generally don't listen.

 

Anyway, I hope they are successful at finding new employment, although I don't have high hopes for them. ????

Fairness yes but towards their own. Not towards non-Japanese. Have you worked for the Japanese?

[RichardColeman]

3 hours ago, zyphodb said:

And it's also been admitted that if you test positive for covid and you died of being run over by a bus the reason for your death was put down to covid, so you can't even start to rely on the death figures...

 

100% agree. I mean how many of the estimated 650,000 that die from seasonal flu each year were put down  in figures after being run over by a bus ? If the answer is none then we need to look again at all the silly figures this time.

[tomazbodner]

35 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

100% agree. I mean how many of the estimated 650,000 that die from seasonal flu each year were put down  in figures after being run over by a bus ? If the answer is none then we need to look again at all the silly figures this time.

Goes both ways. Whatever suits politics in that particular moment.

[Blumpie]

It's very sad.  When companies cannot make it financially this happens.

 

[DrTuner]

8 hours ago, thequietman said:

The Japanese are generally known for their fairness in employment issues. I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't give some kind of notice, or reward.

Japanese owned, but not necessarily Japanese managed.

[Blumpie]

It would be nice if the usual self absorbed USA posters would stop posting off topic comments about their country.  The rest of the world isn't that interested, nor does it go with this thread.