Hawaii returnee tests positive as doctor warns of second wave of Covid-19 infections

[webfact]

Hawaii returnee tests positive as doctor warns of second wave of Covid-19 infections

By The Nation

 

 

One new Covid-19 case was confirmed in state quarantine on Wednesday (July 29) with no deaths over a 24-hour period, said Dr Thanarak Palipat, deputy director general of the Disease Control Department.

 

Wednesday was the 65th day without a domestic case since May.

 

The latest Covid-19 case is a 26-year-old soldier who returned from Hawaii and has been in state quarantine in Chonburi since July 22. He tested positive on Monday and has high fever, runny nose and muscle ache. He is one of the 151 soldiers who had gone to Hawaii for training and stayed in camps with seven to eight people, some of whom have also tested positive.

 

As of Wednesday, the total number of confirmed cases in Thailand stood at 3,298 (361 testing positive in state quarantine). Of them 129 are under treatment, 3,111 have recovered and 58 have died.

 

Dr Thanarak said most of the patients were in the age group of 20 to 40 and lived in Bangkok and its metropolitan area.

 

Thailand’s skies have been closed since April 4, and the virus situation has been improving since. Of the imported cases so far, 125 were foreigners, 367 Thais returning home before the airports closed and 361 Thais in state quarantine.

 

Globally, the total number of confirmed cases has gone beyond 16.8 million, up by 248,000 with 10.4 million recovered and 663,000 dead. Thailand is ranked 106th in terms of the number of cases, while the US still tops the list with 4.49 million Covid-19 infections, followed by Brazil 2.48 million and India 1.53 million.

 

Citing the second wave of infections in Vietnam, China, Australia and Hong Kong, Thanarak said: “The government has made preparations. Practically, we can’t expect the number to remain zero forever but are aiming for there to be a low impact on both health security and economy by containing hotspots and suspected cases with good cooperation from the Thai public.”

 

He also voiced concern about illegal border crossing.

 

Pointing out that people without a mask in crowded areas can get infected within five to 15 minutes if they happen to be close to a patient.

 

Thanarak said department stores should return to strictly imposing control measures – ThaiChana check-in, temperature screening, ensuring people wear masks and keep their hands clean.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30392093

 

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[AndrewMciver]

Panic to commence in a few days. It will be like a train hitting the population. No more tourists for 10 years now. 

[Geoffggi]

39 minutes ago, webfact said:

One new Covid-19 case was confirmed in state quarantine on Wednesday (July 29) with no deaths over a 24-hour period, said Dr Thanarak Palipat, deputy director general of the Disease Control Department.

Here we go "Come-on boys someone is about to press the PANIC button" ...................LOL

[ukrules]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Citing the second wave of infections in Vietnam, China, Australia and Hong Kong, Thanarak said: “The government has made preparations. Practically, we can’t expect the number to remain zero forever but are aiming for there to be a low impact on both health security and economy by containing hotspots and suspected cases with good cooperation from the Thai public.”

They've positioned themselves in a situation where they have to make a change that allows it back in.

 

If they change nothing and leave everything as it is right now then it won't get in, not without help.

 

That's not a good position to be in really because one day something will give and whoever gives that order will be directly responsible for whatever comes after, and everyone in the country will know it.

 

So, it comes down to when the PM allows COVID back into the country and he knows this. He's trapped.

[brianp0803]

Did they initially quarantine all 150 soldiers?

Is this soldier one of the six original that came back with a fever runny nose and bodyaches and tested positive for COVID-19 just recently or an additional soldier?
 

It describes symptoms are for typical flu, and not COVID-19.

[Rancid]

It beats me why so many doctors are ignorant about pandemic responses. Its quite straight forward where there is no vaccine.

1. If you do nothing the virus will run, its over quicker but hospitals could get overworked.

2. Or, you do lock down, distancing, masks etc, which reduces the pressure on hospitals but actually causes Wave 2 and Wave 3. Why? Because there are still hosts for the virus to infect, hence the extra waves. Case 1 there is no one to infect, hence its over.

 

[pookiki]

I've contacted some friends I have in Hawaii about this news and none of it has made it into the press in Hawaii or other US media. Hawaii has had an increasing number of cases but none of the cases was reported as being among soldiers stationed in the islands.  I'm not questioning whether the Thai soldiers have COVID-19 but has Thailand notified the military authorities in Hawaii about the situation? Were all the US military who participated in the exercises from Hawaii or were others flown to the islands as well. It certainly seems that the US military has had is share of problems with the spread of COVID-19.

 

Sorry -- there have been some press reports in Hawaii and in 'Stars and Stripes'

 

https://www.civilbeat.org/beat/eight-thai-soldiers-test-positive-for-covid-19-after-training-in-hawaii/

 

https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/eight-thai-soldiers-test-positive-for-coronavirus-after-training-in-hawaii-with-us-soldiers-1.639188

 

 

Edited July 29, 2020 by pookiki
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[pookondee]

53 minutes ago, brianp0803 said:

Did they initially quarantine all 150 soldiers?

Is this soldier one of the six original that came back with a fever runny nose and bodyaches and tested positive for COVID-19 just recently or an additional soldier?
 

It describes symptoms are for typical flu, and not COVID-19.

I think its pretty much a given now.

 

Any flu or even common cold will go down as Covid in certain places, from poorly made up tests that are designed to show up positive for anything & everything.

 

Its akin to a finger print scanner set on minimum sensitivity. 

You could get a hairy mammoth to scan a paw on behalf of you, and it would pass for you as no problem.

 

[pookondee]

7 minutes ago, pookiki said:

I've contacted some friends I have in Hawaii about this news and none of it has made it into the press in Hawaii or other US media. Hawaii has had an increasing number of cases but none of the cases was reported as being among soldiers stationed in the islands.  I'm not questioning whether the Thai soldiers have COVID-19 but has Thailand notified the military authorities in Hawaii about the situation? Were all the US military who participated in the exercises from Hawaii or were others flown to the islands as well. It certainly seems that the US military has had is share of problems with the spread of COVID-19.

I don't think it even matters to the people in charge of Thailand.

Hawaii....U.S.A....

how or where they got infected....

they are all whiteys....

...farangs.

 

Thats all they need the public to know.

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, brianp0803 said:

Did they initially quarantine all 150 soldiers?

Is this soldier one of the six original that came back with a fever runny nose and bodyaches and tested positive for COVID-19 just recently or an additional soldier?
 

It describes symptoms are for typical flu, and not COVID-19.

I just wonder, only wonder mind you, if there really is much difference between a typical flu and

covid-19. In the Asian flu of the 50s there were 3 or 4 million deaths worldwide, there is only a fraction of that so far with covid-19.

Edited July 29, 2020 by possum1931

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

12 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I just wonder, only wonder mind you, if there really is much difference between a typical flu and

covid-19. In the Asian flu of the 50s there were 3 or 4 million deaths worldwide, there is only a fraction of that so far with covid-19.

 

Coronavirus is both more infectious (more easily spread) and has a higher death rate than the typical seasonal flu. CV also appears to be leaving some portion of victims with chronic, lingering health problems even after they've recovered, unlike the seasonal flu.

 

60,000 or so deaths in a year is a very bad flu season for the U.S. over the past decade, with lesser years in the 20-30,000 deaths range. Right now, the U.S. is closing in on 150,000 CV deaths in the span of about six months.

 

They're not the same in any variety of respects.

 

 

[spiekerjozef]

Don't go to Hawaii.

When is the world gonna stop traveling?

Stay where you are!

[unblocktheplanet]

Dem generals is sure brainiacs, eh!

[Redline]

10 hours ago, Rancid said:

It beats me why so many doctors are ignorant about pandemic responses. Its quite straight forward where there is no vaccine.

1. If you do nothing the virus will run, its over quicker but hospitals could get overworked.

2. Or, you do lock down, distancing, masks etc, which reduces the pressure on hospitals but actually causes Wave 2 and Wave 3. Why? Because there are still hosts for the virus to infect, hence the extra waves. Case 1 there is no one to infect, hence its over.

 

Wow-one smart kind of chap you are!  Another super genius 

 

 

 

is this your friend ????

[hotchilli]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

As of Wednesday, the total number of confirmed cases in Thailand stood at 3,298 (361 testing positive in state quarantine). Of them 129 are under treatment, 3,111 have recovered and 58 have died.

The best reason ever to keep the borders closed to tourism, and any returning/visiting persons must undergo quarantine.

[brianp0803]

Of the 361i in state quarantine testing positive, 129 are being treated. 
 

This seems like a quite high percentage of people in Thailand are getting treated. By being treated, I’m assuming they are hospitalizing 1/3 of the people testing positive.
But interesting that even thailand recognizes that 2/3 of the people with the virus do not need any medical treatment.

[meechai]

This Thai probably got covid in Thailand either during transport or at the quarantine itself

Same as so many others...suddenly test positive in quarantine...Yet have clear test before takeoff to Thailand

Buy a vowel Thailand as you need a clue

 

Look at Hawaii....Total cases from start of covid less than 1900

 

Thailand total cases 3300

 

Truth is Hawaii should not be letting Thai's visit

[brianp0803]

To compare the total cases in Thailand with the total cases in Hawaii, you need to compare the population of Hawaii with the population of Thailand.
 

But I do find it very suspicious the number of people returning to Thailand that test negative 72 hours before leaving and test positive upon arriving in Thailand. It seems the percentage of returning  people that Thailand says our positive far exceeds the percent of people in the respective countries having the virus.

 

Maybe this is an example of - with more testing you get more positive results. Thailand only test people returning from foreign countries, or who had contact with people from foreign countries and then blames the foreign country for any positive results.
 

How many of the people returning that Thailand says are positive are asymptomatic or have symptoms completely different from typical COVID-19 people?