Fauci expects tens of millions of coronavirus vaccine doses at start of 2021

[webfact]

Fauci expects tens of millions of coronavirus vaccine doses at start of 2021

By Michael Erman and Jeff Mason

 

FILE PHOTO: Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, speaks during a House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis hearing in Washington, D.C., U.S., July 31, 2020. Erin Scott/Pool via REUTERS

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Drugmakers will likely have tens of millions of doses of a coronavirus vaccine in the early part of next year, with production ramping up so that it hits a billion doses by the end of 2021, Anthony Fauci, the top U.S. government official on infectious diseases, said in a Reuters interview on Wednesday.

 

Fauci said he has not seen any pressure from the White House to announce a vaccine close to the Nov. 3 election in the hopes of boosting President Donald Trump's re-election chances.

 

He added that regulators have promised "they are not going to let political considerations interfere" with the approval of a COVID-19 vaccine and that "safety and efficacy" will be primary considerations.

 

Fauci's interview with Reuters came on the same day Trump said in an interview with Fox News that the virus is "going away. It will go away like things go away."

 

Fauci offered a more mixed assessment, saying some parts of the country had done well in containing the spread of the virus, while others were "on fire."

 

He characterized the varying responses to the virus as "disjointed" - owing to the size and the diversity of the nation.

 

Fauci said he hoped the pandemic would be under greater control by the end of the year, when he expects a vaccine to be available.

 

While Fauci stressed that there is a "middle ground" in which the country can prudently reopen, he said the politicization of mask-wearing was detrimental to the fight against the virus.

 

(Reporting by Jeff Mason and Michael Erman; Writing by Lisa Lambert and James Oliphant; Editing by Howard Goller and Bill Berkrot)

 

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[Bluespunk]

25 minutes ago, webfact said:

Fauci's interview with Reuters came on the same day Trump said in an interview with Fox News that the virus is "going away. It will go away like things go away."

I can think of someone I’d like to see go away. 

[Why Me]

One situation where US-Russian rivalry could actually benefit the world.

[Tug]

I sincerely hope it pans out and we have a safe vaccine that works I’d also be delighted if we shared it with the world so all could benefit 

[shdmn]

6 minutes ago, Tug said:

I sincerely hope it pans out and we have a safe vaccine that works I’d also be delighted if we shared it with the world so all could benefit 

The AstraZeneca/Oxford one is being manufactured all over the world as are others.  So fortunately the US cannot hoard a lot of them.

Edited August 5, 2020 by shdmn

[Why Me]

6 minutes ago, Tug said:

I’d also be delighted if we shared it with the world so all could benefit 

We? Are you Russian? I know they are ahead currently in the race. But US pharma is no slouch. And there are candidates in China and India as well.

 

Added: And the British Oxford too. It's going to be close

Edited August 5, 2020 by Why Me

[Why Me]

33 minutes ago, shdmn said:

The AstraZeneca one is being manufactured all over the world.  So fortunately the US cannot hoard that one.

AstraZeneca is the British Oxford collaboration. It's not US. I read that they have already started manufacture at units in India and elsewhere to save time in anticipation of successful trials. If not, they'll destroy the lots and take a loss.

Edited August 5, 2020 by Why Me

[Tug]

4 minutes ago, Why Me said:

We? Are you Russian? I know they are ahead currently in the race. But US pharma is no slouch. And there are candidates in China and India as well.

 

Added: And the British Oxford too. It's going to be close

I personally don’t care what their politics or there religion is we are all brothers and sisters under the skin with generally the same life goals safety and security for their family’s and a better life for ther kids it’s time to start working together 

[mtls2005]

Safe?

Effective?

One or two or more, or annual booster, applications?

Cost to patient?

Long term effects?

Enough glass vial, needles, syringes?

 

Everyone, save for anti-vaxxers, wants a vaccine. OK, a lot of people want a vaccine, incl. Wall St.

 

Seen some (U.S.) surveys which say that 33% - 50% will NOT get a Covid-19 vaccine.

 

Bring on the "herders".

 

 

[Why Me]

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

I personally don’t care what their politics or there religion is we are all brothers and sisters under the skin with generally the same life goals safety and security for their family’s and a better life for ther kids it’s time to start working together 

Totally agree with your sentiments. It's just that when you said "we shared" I though you were a Cossack nationalist:-)

[Why Me]

3 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Everyone, save for anti-vaxxers, wants a vaccine.

Ah, the fringe loons. Not an issue. Pin them on the ground with a knee to the throat, pull down their pants and jab.

[mtls2005]

5 minutes ago, Why Me said:

Ah, the fringe loons. Not an issue. Pin them on the ground with a knee to the throat, pull down their pants and jab.

 

Vaccines normally given in the upper arm, near shoulder.

 

Maybe we'll leave the pulling down of pants and jabbing to you?

 

 

[Why Me]

3 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Vaccines normally given in the upper arm, near shoulder.

 

Maybe we'll leave the pulling down of pants and jabbing to you?

 

 

True, buttocks aren't the most preferred site. But what do you do? You've got your knee across the throat of this screaming loon flailing their arms in an effort to get away. Easiest then for your partner to squat on their legs and jab their bottom.

 

As they say vaccines should be safe and effective for those receiving. And the vaccination process should be safe and effective for those administering.

[Scott]

39 minutes ago, shdmn said:

The AstraZeneca/Oxford one is being manufactured all over the world as are others.  So fortunately the US cannot hoard a lot of them.

There may well be more than one type of vaccine available.   There are different ways vaccines work to attack the virus.  

 

[scubascuba3]

Might as well ignore talk of vaccine until it's actually available, it's just announced in hope

[Odysseus123]

5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Might as well ignore talk of vaccine until it's actually available, it's just announced in hope

Possibly....but Dr Fauci does seem to have his finger on the pulse better than most.

 

I liked his rather gentlemanly description of the US response-"disjointed"

[thaibeachlovers]

16 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Might as well ignore talk of vaccine until it's actually available, it's just announced in hope

They are praying that there will be one, as they don't seem to have a plan B. Just imagine them all having to say "sorry, but...................................".

[thaibeachlovers]

51 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Safe?

Effective?

One or two or more, or annual booster, applications?

Cost to patient?

Long term effects?

Enough glass vial, needles, syringes?

 

Everyone, save for anti-vaxxers, wants a vaccine. OK, a lot of people want a vaccine, incl. Wall St.

 

Seen some (U.S.) surveys which say that 33% - 50% will NOT get a Covid-19 vaccine.

 

Bring on the "herders".

 

 

I doubt many are saying they will NEVER get a Corona vaccine. Far more likely that, like me, they want to wait and see if it's safe.

I had the flu jab, so no problem with vaccines per se, just rushed ones. There is way too much money involved with this one for me to trust anything they say about it being safe till a lot of people have had it first without side effects.

[Scott]

2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They are praying that there will be one, as they don't seem to have a plan B. Just imagine them all having to say "sorry, but...................................".

It is worth noting that to date, there has not been an effective vaccine against any of the 7 various strains of coronavirus.   It doesn't mean this one won't be, but past efforts haven't been successful. 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

BTW, given that the supply will not be sufficient for the numbers, I don't expect to be offered it for a long while anyway.

There are way higher priorities than old unproductive men living on a pension.

Ergo, I doubt I'll even have to decline it till it has been tried out of several million other people first as I won't be asked if I want it.

 

 

[Scott]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

BTW, given that the supply will not be sufficient for the numbers, I don't expect to be offered it for a long while anyway.

There are way higher priorities than old unproductive men living on a pension.

Ergo, I doubt I'll even have to decline it till it has been tried out of several million other people first as I won't be asked if I want it.

 

If you are in Thailand, it's going to be interesting to see how the vaccine gets prioritized.   If you are in your home country, I suspect older people and those at greater risk will be given the vaccine first.   It's not that they are that important, it's just that they take up a lot of medical resources when they get sick.  

So, keeping you alive might be a higher priority than you thought!

 

[Tug]

1 hour ago, Why Me said:

Totally agree with your sentiments. It's just that when you said "we shared" I though you were a Cossack nationalist:-)

I am an American 

[Srikcir]

5 hours ago, Why Me said:

One situation where US-Russian rivalry could actually benefit the world.

Or the Russians just steal vaccine research from the US, Asian and European researchers and be first to distribute a vaccine. Competition becomes unnecessary.

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, Scott said:

It is worth noting that to date, there has not been an effective vaccine against any of the 7 various strains of coronavirus.   It doesn't mean this one won't be, but past efforts haven't been successful. 

 

True in the sense that there has not been 100% effacy in the current '4-strain' flu vaccine (I believe the other three are too rare to economically develop a vaccine).

But the historical 60-75% effacy of the flu vaccine has been enough to prevent community spread if 75%+ of the community takes the vaccine. 

Some problems noted by Dr. Fauci with a new covid-19 vaccine is that it may require more than one shot per year and even with an effacy as high as 75%, if less than about one-third of Americans do not get the vaccine (antivaxers), community immunity will not occur - the disease will continue to survive, infect and kill.

Edited August 6, 2020 by Srikcir
add 'do not'

[Scott]

4 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

True in the sense that there has not been 100% effacy in the current '4-strain' flu vaccine (I believe the other three are too rare to economically develop a vaccine).

But the historical 60-75% effacy of the flu vaccine has been enough to prevent community spread if 75%+ of the community takes the vaccine. 

Some problems noted by Dr. Fauci with a new covid-19 vaccine is that it may require more than one shot per year and even with an effacy as high as 75%, if less than about one-third of Americans get the vaccine (antivaxers), community immunity will not occur - the disease will continue to survive, infect and kill.

Influenza is not a coronavirus.  There are 7 types of coronavirus.   These include SARS and MERS, neither of which have a vaccine for.  

 

 

[sungod]

4 hours ago, Scott said:

It is worth noting that to date, there has not been an effective vaccine against any of the 7 various strains of coronavirus.   It doesn't mean this one won't be, but past efforts haven't been successful. 

 

Good point, but dont think we have ever had an effort on this magnitude by so many before.

[Scott]

39 minutes ago, sungod said:

Good point, but dont think we have ever had an effort on this magnitude by so many before.

True and I think most of the reports coming from the trials is positive.  A big question, however, for how long is the vaccination effective?

 

[Pattaya Spotter]

350 million Americans are relieved to hear this.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, Scott said:

True and I think most of the reports coming from the trials is positive.  A big question, however, for how long is the vaccination effective.  

 

Sars fizzled out by itself so the effort to develop a vaccine fell away as less urgent, Mers is confined to the Middle East and so I guess the priority for that also was diminished. I agree that the current trials in some of the front runner covid vaccines are looking very promising and reasonable expectations are now for some to succeed. They may be similar to the flu vaccine, yearly? 

[thequietman]

5 hours ago, Why Me said:

True, buttocks aren't the most preferred site. But what do you do? You've got your knee across the throat of this screaming loon flailing their arms in an effort to get away. Easiest then for your partner to squat on their legs and jab their bottom.

The eye ball!  ????