Facebook removes Trump post over coronavirus misinformation

[Scott]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Half as susceptible is not almost immune.

Nor was it meant to imply that they are immune or almost immune.  It is a very contagious disease.   I don't think we will know much about the level of contagion in children until we see schools open on a large scale.  

 

Thus far, what is known -- but for the time being -- is that younger children, under 10 are less contagious to adults if they are infected.  Over that age, they are as contagious as adults.  

 

There could be a lot of reasons for these observations.  There is a lot we don't know about the virus, especially with children.  

 

[Sujo]

7 minutes ago, Scott said:

Nor was it meant to imply that they are immune or almost immune.  It is a very contagious disease.   I don't think we will know much about the level of contagion in children until we see schools open on a large scale.  

 

Thus far, what is known -- but for the time being -- is that younger children, under 10 are less contagious to adults if they are infected.  Over that age, they are as contagious as adults.  

 

There could be a lot of reasons for these observations.  There is a lot we don't know about the virus, especially with children.  

 

Which confirms trump lied.

[Cryingdick]

Facebook already had enough trouble with the ad boycott lately. Zuck had to throw out little red meat. Hopefully they just stop all political ads on both sides as it is spare change to what the core of what they do is. Oddly enough my shares spiked up around 7% today and I have no idea why. 

 

I can't believe it would be because of this. FB is a company that gets a lot of hate on all sides but has become an essential resource for the small businesses trying to survive the virus.

 

Hopefully they just put the political ads out to pasture because there isn't enough money there to impact their bottom line. Let other people worry about such nonsense and continue to innovate.

Edited August 7, 2020 by Cryingdick

[paddypower]

23 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Wrong enough to be censored? Clearly to the usual suspects no reason is plenty of reason. 
 

But thinking people can easily see the agenda. 
 

Multiple things can be true at the same time, bud. 

Yes, it is called alternative realities. an example would be where Barron Trump, Betsy's teens, Kelly Ann's kids will not go to school, whilst Trump is telling everyone else to send their kids to school. I certainly do not want to be accused of bullying you - but your hero's reaction to 155,000 Americans dead....''it is what it is''.

[paddypower]

7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Facebook already had enough trouble with the ad boycott lately. Zuck had to throw out little red meat. Hopefully they just stop all political ads on both sides as it is spare change to what the core of what they do is. Oddly enough my shares spiked up around 7% today and I have no idea why. 

 

I can't believe it would be because of this. FB is a company that gets a lot of hate on all sides but has become an essential resource for the small businesses trying to survive the virus.

 

Hopefully they just put the political ads out to pasture because there isn't enough money there to impact their bottom line. Let other people worry about such nonsense and continue to innovate.

your FB stock went up because it's a cookie monster (Zuck admitted to Congress that they buy up their competitors) and there are no parents at home (read that as no anti-trust oversight any more). same-same with Apple, Google, etc. your'e on a winner!

[Cryingdick]

15 minutes ago, paddypower said:

Yes, it is called alternative realities. an example would be where Barron Trump, Betsy's teens, Kelly Ann's kids will not go to school, whilst Trump is telling everyone else to send their kids to school. I certainly do not want to be accused of bullying you - but your hero's reaction to 155,000 Americans dead....''it is what it is''.

 

Do you really want Zuckerberg and Company deciding for us which alternate reality is true on a daily basis? This is not about one single thing being blocked but about freedom of expression.

 

It's an about-face on Zuck's part as he said recently they are not the arbiters of truth. Some of us are adult enough to wish to have all information available to us whether somebody get's offended by it or not. I also object as a shareholder because FB is inserting themselves in fights they don't need to have. 

 

Edited August 7, 2020 by Cryingdick

[Cryingdick]

Just now, paddypower said:

your FB stock went up because it's a cookie monster (Zuck admitted to Congress that they buy up their competitors) and there are no parents at home (read that as no anti-trust oversight any more). same-same with Apple, Google, etc. your'e on a winner!

 

Tat is no explanation to a melt up like today. In general I agree however if that is your accepted catalyst to a sudden surge stick to index funds. Something weird happened. 

[paddypower]

18 hours ago, stevenl said:

Far less vulnerable is far from the same as almost immune. Don't forget children also infect others.

 

Why are you comparing Thailand, no new infections for over 2 months, with the US, with 50,000 daily new infections?

I'm sorry - but I have to correct you, it's pronounced ''THIGH-LAND''.

[paddypower]

17 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

read you loud and clear, don't agree though

 

this is a good sub-topic. Maybe I'll start one, because over the next 87 days, you will see a massive info-war by both parties, using social media.

[paddypower]

31 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Tat is no explanation to a melt up like today. In general I agree however if that is your accepted catalyst to a sudden surge stick to index funds. Something weird happened. 

agree, it's weird. I've stayed out of the US equity markets b/c assuming the Dems take the Presidency and, possibly take/retain both houses of Congress, the market will melt down. and it's not just the politics. Reliable reports show that the number of permanent job losses in the US is increasing. That is truly alarming. Additionally, I think the techs are on thin ice (ain't that beautiful head rhyme?). The Dems will bring in stronger anti-trust regs. Bad news for the cookie monsters. I use the term because as they take over the social media world, we are losing all semblance of privacy.

[Cryingdick]

4 minutes ago, paddypower said:

agree, it's weird. I've stayed out of the US equity markets b/c assuming the Dems take the Presidency and, possibly take/retain both houses of Congress, the market will melt down. and it's not just the politics. Reliable reports show that the number of permanent job losses in the US is increasing. That is truly alarming. Additionally, I think the techs are on thin ice (ain't that beautiful head rhyme?). The Dems will bring in stronger anti-trust regs. Bad news for the cookie monsters. I use the term because as they take over the social media world, we are losing all semblance of privacy.

 

Tech companies being regulated will only work to their favor. Much like banning tobacco ads was good for Phillip Morris. When you have no competition you are in a good spot. Anyway to get back to the point FB should stay away from being the moral compass and stay away from political ads all of which are toxic.

 

If FB is so worried about the dems gaining control and cutting their balls off why censor Trump? It is interesting that tech companies hate Trump so badly but love his policies. The left wants to break up the handful of successful companies we have left now that most people are unessential.

[Stargeezr]

The little children and those under 9 years old sometimes, do not 

listen very well. They touch almost everything, they run and hug 

their relatives, even when you say do not do that. They get colds and

pass them and flues, so why not the corona virus. The idea that these

youngsters will somehow not spread the virus is ridiculous. Drink the

purple coolaid. and put on your blinders.

Geezer

[PremiumLane]

On 8/6/2020 at 9:05 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

1000 deaths/330 million population =

 

 0.0003% chance of dying from Corona virus today. 'nuff said.

and in a nutshell we have your mentality.... I mean who cares right? Only a 1000+ people a day, probably just old people anyway, right? 

 

And you do know these numbers are most probably under reported? 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-coronavirus-cases-deaths-real-scale-estimates-charts-2020-7

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

15 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

and in a nutshell we have your mentality.... I mean who cares right? Only a 1000+ people a day, probably just old people anyway, right? 

 

And you do know these numbers are most probably under reported? 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-coronavirus-cases-deaths-real-scale-estimates-charts-2020-7

 

Right now, it's 1000+ newly dead Americans from CV -- day after day after day.... And you have to ask, what in the U.S. is going to bring any meaningful reduction to those numbers anytime soon?

 

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

 

The new case numbers have declined in the past couple weeks from prior highs, but are remaining still above 50,000 per day. Some of that decline is said to be related to testing problems in huge states like California (testing accuracy problems) and Florida (testing disruptions due to the hurricane). We'll see...

 

Johns Hopkins has somewhat different, but comparable, numbers for the U.S. in their latest tally:

 

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/cumulative-cases

 

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

18 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

stay away from political ads all of which are toxic.

 

On Facebook, there's no difference between political "ads" and political posts period in terms of the content. Trump's posts and tweets are nothing more than ads for him, usually containing false or distorted information. And anyone like him can come along and post almost anything they want purporting to be "news" and "information" -- regardless of how false and misleading it may be. And RARELY is anything done to combat that.

 

If Facebook and Twitter stuck to cooking recipes and socials ads, cat videos, and family and friends stuff, then they'd be exempt from all the political B.S. and what comes with it.  But as it stands now, when they become unregulated platforms for propaganda, misinformation, lies and foreign meddling in U.S. elections, they're harmful to the U.S. and to the U.S. version of democratic government.

 

It's not just Trump, of course. But he's emblematic of the larger and broader problem with abuses on social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter, since no one I can think of has used and abused them to send out more false and misleading information to a wider audience than he has in his tenure as "president".

 

 

Edited August 7, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[spidermike007]

14 hours ago, roquefort said:

The problem is Biden will be hostage to the loony left and will probably be replaced within a year by his female VP of colour (competent or not). Welcome to the Socialist Republic of America!

I do prefer that to the wannabe fascist Republic of Trump. And you would probably have a hard time understanding this, with your rhetorical slander, but most dems are very moderate. The extreme left are a very small percentage of the electorate. And I am a very proud moderate Democrat. We actually care about the planet. Most of us are not loony at all. Moderately ting tong, but in a good way. 

Edited August 7, 2020 by spidermike007

[scammed]

On 8/6/2020 at 6:59 AM, stevenl said:

And now back to the op: what did Trump say and is that true?

He said children are almost immune, which is not true,hence the post got pulled.

 

Your post is a nice attempt at deflection.

swedens statistics show trump is correct and you wrong

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, scammed said:

swedens statistics show trump is correct and you wrong

Not getting into that again with you. You have been shown many times now you're wrong, I'll leave it at that.

[Odysseus123]

17 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Not getting into that again with you. You have been shown many times now you're wrong, I'll leave it at that.

I think that is a very good idea...

[spidermike007]

20 hours ago, RocketDog said:

First, he needs no excuse to lie, and second if he was censured every time he lies there would be nothing at all forthcoming from the white house. 

Actually everyone would benefit from that. 

At this point every one not a zealot sees his lies and the zealots never will. In that sense it's not worth the effort to expose him. 

 

The man is just a skid mark in America's underwear. He can be washed out this November but the smell will remain for years. 

This is true. He will remain a blight on the landscape and will have contributed to a massive decrease in American influence and prestige for years to come. He is a human wrecking ball. Will be thrilled to see him ingloriously ushered out of his swamp in January, to a life of utter humiliation and irrelevance. 

[7by7]

21 hours ago, alex8912 said:

Exactly. Some WOULD say it then or right after the flight left ( however there are no non stops NYC to BKK) because they have been waiting to go on the trip for a long time. Another would say it at the halfway point , another when there is 4 hours to touchdown , another one hour before and of course  you and the other poster would say it in the taxi to hotel or on the elevator just before you get to the hotel room. Spare me the details on how to comprehend the word “almost”. You are wrong or purposely think it means 99% for obvious hateful reasons. 

 

You, together with Trump and his sycophants, obviously have a different definition of the word 'almost' to the rest of the English speaking world!

 

A reminder: the dictionary definition of 'almost' is nearly but not quite.

[7by7]

10 hours ago, Scott said:

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There is a lot we don't know about the virus, especially with children.

 Indeed; so to claim that children are 'almost immune' is a dangerous falsehood.

[7by7]

9 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

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Do you really want Zuckerberg and Company deciding for us which alternate reality is true on a daily basis? This is not about one single thing being blocked but about freedom of expression.

 Facebook is a private company and has every right to decide what and who to publish.

 

I remind you of the first amendment of the US constitution and what it says about freedom of the press.

 

You, like everyone else, have every right not to read it.

[frantick]

2 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 Facebook is a private company and has every right to decide what and who to publish.

 

I remind you of the first amendment of the US constitution and what it says about freedom of the press.

 

You, like everyone else, have every right not to read it.

Except when those companies become monopolies, which when you see the 3 different types of platforms, video and search content, message content, and social content, Google, Twitter, and Facebook easily fit that definition.

 

If the shoe were on the other foot and all three were silencing the left's views, you could bet there would already be laws passing to stop it.

 

I say just wait awhile, the left has only just started eating their own. They'll figure it out eventually; I hope.

[stevenl]

10 minutes ago, frantick said:

Except when those companies become monopolies, which when you see the 3 different types of platforms, video and search content, message content, and social content, Google, Twitter, and Facebook easily fit that definition.

 

If the shoe were on the other foot and all three were silencing the left's views, you could bet there would already be laws passing to stop it.

 

I say just wait awhile, the left has only just started eating their own. They'll figure it out eventually; I hope.

Misinformation is suppressed, left nor right is. If someone feels suppressed, just stop posting lies.

[candide]

18 minutes ago, frantick said:

Except when those companies become monopolies, which when you see the 3 different types of platforms, video and search content, message content, and social content, Google, Twitter, and Facebook easily fit that definition.

 

If the shoe were on the other foot and all three were silencing the left's views, you could bet there would already be laws passing to stop it.

 

I say just wait awhile, the left has only just started eating their own. They'll figure it out eventually; I hope.

Which post on coronavirus from the "left" would then be blocked?

[Scott]

Off-topic posts removed.  

 

[frantick]

I believe in freedom of all speech, even wrong, hate, lie speech. When you suppress it, you cannot debate it, and then it can become more than it is.

[frantick]

45 minutes ago, candide said:

Which post on coronavirus from the "left" would then be blocked?

Fauci saying masks not required for a start.

[welovesundaysatspace]

29 minutes ago, frantick said:

I believe in freedom of all speech, even wrong, hate, lie speech. When you suppress it, you cannot debate it, and then it can become more than it is.

While I don’t think that freedom of speech should cover lies and hatred, no one’s freedom of speech has been suppressed. Because freedom of speech is not the right that everyone needs to let you into their living room to spread your bs. 
 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2020 by welovesundaysatspace