2 hours ago, DaftToPutRealName said:

I wonder what the "acceptable" level of small boats full of illegal immigrants is...?

 

about 5 inches above the plimzoller mark

 

Brexit is about to fail on getting a deal and what better way to distract from that than to bring out the always reliable illegal immigrant stories.

2 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Brexit is about to fail on getting a deal and what better way to distract from that than to bring out the always reliable illegal immigrant stories.

Brexit or no Brexit, either way, immigration into Britain does not stop and will not stop 

A post from an unapproved source has been removed.   Besides being behind a paywall, it is a social media platform, not a news source.  

 

Reply to the post has been removed as well.

 

14 hours ago, Surelynot said:

14 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

It does fit the narrative exactly- instead of discouraging illegal immigrants who could be Isis, murderers or rapists they are actually encouraging it by providing days out, money and 4 star accommodation, how is that going to discourage thousands more? The tax payer might not have paid for the jolly day out but they do for the rest of it. These people have NO right to be in the UK and need to be booted out.

I understand your point, but the driving force is not "hotels and trips to Liverpool FC", it is the horrendous circumstances in which they find themselves in their own country....now that is a hugely complex problem to solve.

 

It is also worth noting that many of those who make it to the UK are the wealthy, well educated middle and upper class who will, within a few years, assimilate and be of benefit to the UK............many might not be and hence the requirement to screen and return.

So many children, doctors, physicists and engineers. We are so lucky.

3 hours ago, Heppinger said:

Brexit or no Brexit, either way, immigration into Britain does not stop and will not stop 

The comfort to derive from this statement is that the arrivals will in turn be reduced to slave labour,nothing more,nothing less. When ,and if they do surface into mainstay society they will be shunned reduced to living,no, more like surviving, in a hostile environment

 

Australia type removals and isolation in various parts of UK will be an obvious choice,no housing them in populated areas

Edited August 8, 20205 yr by izod10

8 hours ago, sungod said:

Brexit, they know its a good thing ????

Well if you listened to the remainers on here they continually mention that Migrants will not want to come to the UK due to Brexit. Like most of their claims it is another lie peddled. Migrants do want to come the UK and they are coming in greater numbers.

 

As mentioned the UK is a soft touch putting them in hotels and giving them money, free food, wifi etc.  I remember watching a program outside the mainstream media (wouldn't be allowed for all the liberals on mainstream TV) and they interviewed some migrants. they were told to burn their passports, didn't want to get their finger prints taken, as some were released from jail and told to say they were from worn torn countries, when many are not.

 

They refused water and food until they were given "a hotel'. They have played on the good nature of the people in the UK. Towns and cities are over run with migrants and they are not all good. Badgering people for a pound here and there, crime increased and just often damn right rude.

 

No doubt the left wing luvvies will be outraged that the UK is not looking after these people but I know a few people who were liberal, left wing who have changed their stance on this matter.

 

So why is it the young males that are the vast majority of. these? It doesn't take a genius to work it out.

Edited August 8, 20205 yr by Laughing Gravy

9 hours ago, jesimps said:

Then why didn't they request it in one of the safe countries they passed through. Is France not a safe country? This is a rhetorical question, but your post needs it.

They dont have to.

13 hours ago, roo860 said:

Just watched the Biased Broadcasting Company news, a reporter was in France at a beach location, illegals boarding a boat, police were called and never turned up, the French authorities don't give a 

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Edited August 8, 20205 yr by roo860

1 hour ago, izod10 said:

Nope?nope? from the very beginnings of Brexit you have wrong on (not virtually) on every count,on every twist and turn on Brexit,its got to the stage every mention from you on anything and everything and I mean everything is to be treated as absolute trash,and the word "trash"is an absolute understatement.

 

  id stick to being a grade 2 spud picker

Well said.

Edited August 8, 20205 yr by roo860

12 hours ago, Baerboxer said:

 

The bull <deleted> HR lawyers trying to cash in on the act again.

 

Time the government got a spine. Criminals forfeit their HR when they willingly decided to become criminals. The RN and BF should blockade them as the Aussies did. Any who do get through should be interred pending return to France or return to their country of origin. No ifs or but, no exceptions.

 

France, as usual lily liver and happy to shove the problem elsewhere needs to be much harder to about stopping these illegals leaving France and returning them to either the first country they entered the EU or country of origin.

 

Stop putting them in hotels and giving them nice free handouts. Put them in labor camps until deportation. 

 

Whilst the UK is seen as a soft touch - free housing, food, clothes, wifi, education and health etc etc they'll keep coming, with zero intention of assimilating or changing their habits and behavior. Large parts of UK cities have already been turned into sh$$t heaps by immigrants who won't change.

Nobody forfeits their human rights, though a few blowhards would love to strip

others of them.

16 hours ago, Surelynot said:

I understand your point, but the driving force is not "hotels and trips to Liverpool FC", it is the horrendous circumstances in which they find themselves in their own country....now that is a hugely complex problem to solve.

 

It is also worth noting that many of those who make it to the UK are the wealthy, well educated middle and upper class who will, within a few years, assimilate and be of benefit to the UK............many might not be and hence the requirement to screen and return.

I think the wealthy educated upper class would enter legally by applying for the correct visa....let's not forget the child immigrant fiasco from Calais...all of them bearded young men.

Most of the blame can't be laid at the feet of phoney Tony and bush for creating the situation in the first place. Murdering Saddam and Gadaffi in their illegal wars was the start of everything...

8 hours ago, tebee said:

But it's not the EU's job after the end of the year - we left - EU laws don't apply, the Dublin accord is EU law 

Dublin Regulation has been ineffective for a long time due to discord / non-compliance by a number of EU members.

Why worry about these illegals?  The UK is beyond hope.  It is a cesspool.  Enoch would turn in his grave.  I'm proud to be English and am amazed at what I see and read about the UK in the news, (not just concerning immigration).  I'm happy that I left 20 years ago.....

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

Most of the blame can't be laid at the feet of phoney Tony and bush for creating the situation in the first place. Murdering Saddam and Gadaffi in their illegal wars was the start of everything...

IMO there are a number of factors for laying 'blame'. A few examples...

 

Mismanagement of the impact on the civilian population with the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq

 

De-Ba'athification of Iraqi security forces which eventually led to the rise of ISIS

 

Despite numerous warning regards the status of asylum seekers / refugees in countries such as Turkey, Syria and Lebanon they were not acted upon with sufficient preventative measures for funding and resources which created the massive outflow of people into the EU.

 

Breakdown of EU response to assist Greece in dealing with the influx of asylum seekers

 

You mention Libya. EU enabled the so-called Libyan government to manage the inflow of asylum seekers from elsewhere in Africa, what actually occurred was corruption and severe abuse of asylum seekers, including torture and rape.

Edited August 8, 20205 yr by simple1

12 minutes ago, simon43 said:

Why worry about these illegals?  The UK is beyond hope.  It is a cesspool.  Enoch would turn in his grave.  I'm proud to be English and am amazed at what I see and read about the UK in the news, (not just concerning immigration).  I'm happy that I left 20 years ago.....

Smart move, no point going down with the ship especially when 95% of Brits are on the left-right paradigm merry-go-round, the very fact they can't even identify their enemy would suggest there is no stopping the inevitability of civil and social collapse.  You definitely don't want to be on the island when that day comes.

4 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Despite numerous warning regards the status of asylum seekers / refugees in countries such as Turkey, Syria and Lebanon they were not acted upon with sufficient preventative measures for funding and resources which created the massive outflow of people into the EU.

The Yinon plan from the Nile to the Euphrates, there was never going to be peace in the Middle East, and there will be many more refugees to come. 

11 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

No. 
 

It is enough to know it is false to claim most refugees are young men. 
 

Dont seem to think so here

 

https://fullfact.org/immigration/ask-full-fact-are-asylum-seekers-mostly-men/

16 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Boarding a boat isn’t illegal and you don’t need a passport check or visa for that. So what do you expect the French police to do? 

 

One would hope when they see a small boat on the coastline overloaded with people of color, they would deduce they would be asylum seekers about the embark on a very dangerous voyage across the busiest sea lane in the world. Many have died on this crossing, so you being a person who obviously cares a lot, don't you think the French Police should be stopping them?

Land of milk and honey. So many willing to risk their lives and pay extortionate sums to reach Jerusalem. And here's me living in Thailand, makes me think I'm missing out on something. 

Just now, nausea said:

Land of milk and honey. So many willing to risk their lives and pay extortionate sums to reach Jerusalem. And here's me living in Thailand, makes me think I'm missing out on something. 

You're missing out on the free housing, food and money.

But don't worry, they wouldn't give it to white Christians even if you were there.

Every day now i am glad we left the UK when our son went to senior school ,we lived in a nice area ,in a sh-t town ,he went to a nice school ,but once he moved up it was to a school where most were the sort who came over on dinghys ,drugs ,police at the gates morning and afternoon to stop gang fights. nothing like when i was in school ,then grew up in the 60s and 70s in London ,a wonderful life ,(except for the Brixton riots) wonder who started them?

In the end we gave up and came back here  ,so much nicer,

2 hours ago, Heppinger said:

The Yinon plan from the Nile to the Euphrates, there was never going to be peace in the Middle East, and there will be many more refugees to come. 

Interesting, Number of people who study asylum seekers originating in M.E, countries point to the endemic corruption combined with repressive dictatorships in the M.E. as a significant cause.

33 minutes ago, sungod said:

Dont seem to think so here

 

https://fullfact.org/immigration/ask-full-fact-are-asylum-seekers-mostly-men/

 

Back in 2015 why do you think 'young men' were in the majority. Would you expect mothers and daughters to lead the way into the unknow? Females and children had very little protection as is evident by the number of asylum seekers who 'disappeared' in the EU at that time.

3 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Interesting, Number of people who study asylum seekers originating in M.E, countries point to the endemic corruption combined with repressive dictatorships in the M.E. as a significant cause.

Correct, manufactured conflicts as a means to displace native inhabitants, the infrastructure of entire cities destroyed to remove a few thousand drug addicted nihilists rolling around in Toyota utilities.  These same drug addicts who seemingly kept the American and Russian war machines at bay fail to launch one attack on neighboring Israel yet seem to be able to command multiple attacks in Europe and other western nations.

God of the Sun, post 140, I bow down to you,

Why the French police would allow themselves to curb the enthusiasm of migrants / undocumented / asylum seekers, to practice this extreme sport, by forcing them to stay on French soil.
You have to know how to be a teacher and let these young people express themselves, this gives them adrenaline, euphoria, pleasure.

7 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Back in 2015 why do you think 'young men' were in the majority. Would you expect mothers and daughters to lead the way into the unknow? Females and children had very little protection as is evident by the number of asylum seekers who 'disappeared' in the EU at that time.

The Syrian's were legitimate refugees, The Africans were incentivised to migrate in to Europe, Hillary had Gaddaffi removed from Libya so that country could be used as a staging point to send these Africans into Europe.  The psychotic Arabs that now run Libya are enslaving many of these Africans.  If the root cause of these problems aren't addressed then the migrants will continue to come.

21 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Come January the boats will be going the other way ????

The intelligent ones with the wherewithal already are.........five of my friends and their family's have moved to Germany in the last year........good luck to them.

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

Interesting, Number of people who study asylum seekers originating in M.E, countries point to the endemic corruption combined with repressive dictatorships in the M.E. as a significant cause.

How much of the population of these countries would leave if there were no visa requirements?

Edited August 9, 20205 yr by Opl