2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Total garbage. They were dating. If 45 fans actually think those are effective arguments, it's time to shop for new drapes for the oval office. 

Don't feed the trolls.  Use the report button.

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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why would anybody who is ‘smart’ run as a Republican in 2020?

The anti-democratic party fetish for Gabbard is hilarious. She's basically a political nothing. 

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She is more representative of the diversity in the American electorate (population)she is giving a tremendous boost of confidence and hope to girls and women everywhere I’m surprised no ones mentioned when she was California’s AG (2ond) largest in the states btw back in 08 during the Great Recession when the banks were trying to cheep Charlie the 100s of thousands of folks that lost their homes she got the award quadrupled point beeing she used to running with the big dogs she is and will do just fine I’m delighted joe picked her (maybe someone brought it up allready I couldn’t work my way through the entire thread just to depressing all the rasist misogynistic bs) go Biden Harris!!!

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2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Why would anybody who is ‘smart’ run as a Republican in 2020?

Because the barriers to entry are a lot lower.  All you have to do is hate on black people and immigrants and thump on the bible.  It's also a lot more profitable.  The wingnut welfare circuit is filled with these grifters and some of them make big bucks selling hate.

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16 hours ago, Peabody said:

Pretty sure she's American

Jamaican Father, Hindu Indian mother.  Yes, of course she is American.  Apparently some people seem to think not being white disqualifies you or something.

 

She will absolutely destroy Pence in the debates.

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5 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

15 hours ago, stevenl said:

A pity Michelle wasn't interested.

She was my first choice and I am fine with my second instead.

Michelle does not appreciate life in the fishbowl, and is not shy about letting the world know.  I wonder, if the circumstance arose and Obama had the opportunity to be Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, if she would be in favor of that.

Biden said (I think it was during the primaries) that if elected he would not run for a second term.  I think this is a looming factor in what the Harris pick is about.

 

 

3 minutes ago, shdmn said:

Because the barriers to entry are a lot lower.  All you have to do is be white and hate on black people and immigrants.  It's also a lot more profitable.  The wingnut welfare circuit is filled with these grifters and some of them make big bucks selling hate.

 

This group of people needs a label so that they can be referred to more succinctly.  My suggestion is "That 35%"

 

some of them make big bucks selling hate

Included in this hate is a hatred of the US itself, and they are succeeding by dismantling the country.  E.g., the GOP has had it in for Social Security system for decades since Gingrich days, and DT is becoming the Republican hero to commence it via the payroll tax clauses of his pandemic plan.  And all the while pandering to the conservative retirees who depend on it -- this is the brilliance of the Republican Party, scaring people into voting against their own interest.

The architect of the dismantling is Steve Bannon, whom it seems is deliberately keeping out of the public eye.  But he's not driven by money, it's some sort of grudge against the world.  He is the devil whispering in DT's ear.

Another blackguard of the moment is Mark Meadows, a Tea Party proponent of "no nothing government."  He is literally in DT's ear as his current chief of staff. 

 

 

31 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Michelle does not appreciate life in the fishbowl, and is not shy about letting the world know.  I wonder, if the circumstance arose and Obama had the opportunity to be Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, if she would be in favor of that.

Biden said (I think it was during the primaries) that if elected he would not run for a second term.  I think this is a looming factor in what the Harris pick is about.

 

 

 

for me it is difficult to see M Obama as a wise choice

I wouldn't pick a POTUS replacement part with no political experience

 

with all the rather difficult pecularities on the hill the house on Penn Ave

should be filled with experienced politicians if pushing (dragging?) USofA up and forward is an objective

 

17 hours ago, Mama Noodle said:

Shes Indian and Asian but whatever. 
 

Anywho, real fantastic pick right there. Arguably one of the most unlikeable and unprincipled of them all, but it was the obvious choice considering the state of lawlessness going on in the states.  

When does a Jamaican qualify as an Asian? She's Jamaican and Indian. The Jamaican's have an Olympic Bobsled team. That's a good way to differentiate. 

50 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Michelle does not appreciate life in the fishbowl, and is not shy about letting the world know.  I wonder, if the circumstance arose and Obama had the opportunity to be Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, if she would be in favor of that.

Biden said (I think it was during the primaries) that if elected he would not run for a second term.  I think this is a looming factor in what the Harris pick is about.

 

 

No! Biden has been careful to not say that he won't be running for a second term. He has suggested that he will be a transition president which many people interpret that way. But it's NOT the same thing as saying so. 

Edited August 12, 20206 yr by Jingthing

12 minutes ago, HuskerDo said:

When does a Jamaican qualify as an Asian? She's Jamaican and Indian. The Jamaican's have an Olympic Bobsled team. That's a good way to differentiate. 

Her Indian side of course is Asian. Her Jamaican side is black.

 

Perhaps most Americans (as opposed to Brits) think only of EAST Asians as Asians. But thanks to Kamala they will soon learn. 

 

Next ... 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Her Indian side of course is Asian. Her Jamaican side is black. Next ... 

I pity the Americans if they consider such things to be relevant. We agree?

 

 

16 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

for me it is difficult to see M Obama as a wise choice

I wouldn't pick a POTUS replacement part with no political experience

 

with all the rather difficult pecularities on the hill the house on Penn Ave

should be filled with experienced politicians if pushing (dragging?) USofA up and forward is an objective

 

Exactly. We've had enough of electing presidents based on celebrity alone. If she was serious about pursuing a political career, which she clearly is not, she would pursue lower offices to gain experience. 

2 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

I pity the Americans if they consider such things to be relevant. We agree?

 

 

Not really. Everything about her background is relevant. Obviously though her background isn't everything. Seriously don't be so naive. On the announcement there is news that people in India a very major country indeed are very excited about this pick. A similar thing happened in Africa during the rise of our great president Barack Obama.

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Not really. Everything about her background is relevant. Obviously though her background isn't everything. Seriously don't be so naive. On the announcement there is news that people in India a very major country indeed are very excited about this pick. A similar thing happened in Africa during the rise of our great president Barack Obama.

Strange that this did not happen in Scotland......

I certainly do not mean to insult you jingthing, but I surely mean to insult some other TV members.....      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham

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All Americans except for the native Americans have immigrant backgrounds. Too many 45 fan white nationalists have forgotten that. All Americans that feel a connection to their immigrant roots (sometimes not voluntary), more recent like hers or long ago, can feel a personal connection to Kamala Harris. 

4 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

Strange that this did not happen in Scotland......

Perhaps because they did not send their best people in that case? 

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Perhaps because they did not send their best people in that case? 

i'm confused now

 

2 minutes ago, oldhippy said:

i'm confused now

 

I was referring to the current president. I think he claims Scottish (and of course German) background. 

Just found out her husband is Jewish. So when she becomes president, the first "first gentleman" in U.S. history will be Jewish as well. Important? No. Cool, yes.

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13 hours ago, mikebike said:

Hahaha, hilarious!

 

What female empowerment is about is not being defined by male opinion.

The movement was initially about equality, but, IMO, has morphed into a push for superiority. I have observed it over a few decades as western women gained power and lost femininity.

No wonder, IMO, western men have been flocking by the millions to countries like Thailand and the Phillippines to find feminine women.

 

Women have been leaders since Cleopatra and Boudica, so it's not a new phenomenon at all.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Not really. Everything about her background is relevant. Obviously though her background isn't everything. Seriously don't be so naive. On the announcement there is news that people in India a very major country indeed are very excited about this pick. A similar thing happened in Africa during the rise of our great president Barack Obama.

Indeed, the Africans were celebrating the appointment of Obama to POTUS, presumably because they thought he would be "helping" them. The celebrations didn't last long though, and we heard little about it from them in the following years. I guess they overlooked that he is only half white, and brought up by a white woman.

The primary concern of American leaders should only be about America.

I don't think this is going to work, Joe.  

14 minutes ago, torturedsole said:

I don't think this is going to work, Joe.  

I beg to differ lol 

5 hours ago, HuskerDo said:

When does a Jamaican qualify as an Asian? She's Jamaican and Indian. The Jamaican's have an Olympic Bobsled team. That's a good way to differentiate. 

India is considered part of Asia. That's probably too difficult a concept for the right wingers/Sarah Palins of the world to grasp.  They are not known to have much of a grasp of geography, or anything else for that matter, and they seem so very proud of that.

Edited August 12, 20206 yr by shdmn

Anything to do with TRUMP and people go completely insane.

 

He must be doing something right. 

5 hours ago, oldhippy said:

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Her Indian side of course is Asian. Her Jamaican side is black. Next ... 

I pity the Americans if they consider such things to be relevant. We agree.

What is more pitiful is the lack of concern about skills required to run one of the most complex and important countries on Earth. Nary a thought.

 

Edited August 12, 20206 yr by rabas

20 minutes ago, rabas said:

What is more pitiful is the lack of concern about skills required to run one of the most complex and important countries on Earth. Nary a thought.

 

You could pick anyone out of the phonebook and get a candidate with more skills than Trump.  But the main point is to win.  It's possible that the Harris pick will motivate Black voters to turn out in greater numbers than otherwise.  Since Black voters are crucial to the Dems, the Harris pick could make sense.  My only reservation is that Black voters did not vote for her in great numbers during the primaries, so her choice may not end up helping that much.