On 8/13/2020 at 5:24 PM, richard_smith237 said:

This makes a lot of sense... 

 

It seems to me that the Brits and Americans have some sort of subconscious anarchistic impulse to at first question anything official and then fight the consensus. 

 

 

Too true !   How many weeks ago was it that thousands fled to Bournmouth beach for the day because they didn't like being told to employ spacial awarenes  hmm ?

On 8/13/2020 at 5:03 PM, BritManToo said:

A major factor with me is not believing COVID is significant.

If the bodies were piling up in the streets I'd probably be a be more careful.

But the chances of it hurting me is less likely than getting run over walking across the road.

 

After a while you get used to ignoring nutters shouting 'the sky is falling'.

(BSE, SARs, Swine Flu, HIV, global warming, seas rising, peak oil, etc.)

After a while you get used to ignoring nutters shouting 'the sky is falling'.

(BSE, SARs, Swine Flu, HIV, global warming, seas rising, peak oil, etc.)

 

A sort of live and let live...

Plastics, oil, garbage etc. in the sea is fine?

Cutting down forests... plenty more...

On 8/14/2020 at 2:07 AM, englishoak said:

Nope. The sky was never falling in its just the hysteria pretending it is/was... 99% survival rate is pretty acceptable to me.. but im not fat or have other underlying conditions nor scared of dying so.... and no I dont wear a nosebag.

If you were part of the 1%+an in the high risk, highly likely to die, category, I wonder if you'd still have the same 'I'm alright jack' attitude??? 

On 8/13/2020 at 6:33 PM, BritManToo said:

A major factor with me is not believing COVID is significant.

If the bodies were piling up in the streets I'd probably be a be more careful.

But the chances of it hurting me is less likely than getting run over walking across the road.

 

After a while you get used to ignoring nutters shouting 'the sky is falling'.

(BSE, SARs, Swine Flu, HIV, global warming, seas rising, peak oil, etc.)

How high would the body pile have to be exactly before you would "probably be a bit more careful"? Would the fact that some of the bodies were your family or friends influence the height decision? How probable is it that either of these factors would influence your choices? Just curious since you framed the question so eloquently. 

 

Many of the problems facing humanity today such as global weather change, massive government debt, water shortages, AND pandemics have been predicted for the last decade at least by "the nutters". When would be an appropriate time to consider them seriously? Attention fatigue is understandable but does not excuse dismissing a problem as harmless. 

 

It seems that some people will consider potential problems and choose to take action before they become catastrophic and some will ignore them well past that point. 

 

Humans are strange animals. Apparently we have forgotten the lessons learned over six or more years with the Spanish Flu a hundred years ago so must learn it again. Kinda sad really. 

45 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

How high would the body pile have to be exactly before you would "probably be a bit more careful"? Would the fact that some of the bodies were your family or friends influence the height decision? How probable is it that either of these factors would influence your choices? Just curious since you framed the question so eloquently. 

 

Many of the problems facing humanity today such as global weather change, massive government debt, water shortages,

I'm the oldest one in my family, and my death probably wouldn't make a difference to anyone, certainly not me.

But you feel free to cower in your room alone, I'm living my life while I still have it. 

 

Global weather change ............ irrelevant, nothing we can do one way or the other.

Massive government debt ........... they can just print more money.

Water shortages ......... haven't seen any, torrential rain at the moment.

These are all the concerns of nutters crying the sky is falling.

Did you forget peak oil and worldwide famine predicted for the early 2000s ..... didn't happen, the world is awash with food and oil.

 

How many cries of 'the sky is falling' do you need to hear before you learn they're all bogus predictions to control you through fear?

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

I'm the oldest one in my family, and my death probably wouldn't make a difference to anyone, certainly not me.

But you feel free to cower in your room alone, I'm living my life while I still have it. 

 

Global weather change ............ irrelevant, nothing we can do one way or the other.

Massive government debt ........... they can just print more money.

Water shortages ......... haven't seen any, torrential rain at the moment.

These are all the concerns of nutters crying the sky is falling.

Did you forget peak oil and worldwide famine predicted for the early 2000s ..... didn't happen, the world is awash with food and oil.

 

How many cries of 'the sky is falling' do you need to hear before you learn they're all bogus predictions to control you through fear?

Ahh the wonderfully cavalier attitude of the older generation, who have drained the world of its resources and are just sitting back with a “f&ck you, I’ve had my time, why should I worry” stance. 
Well some of us have hopefully a few more years and more importantly, young children to worry about so you’ll forgive us if we do pay attention and at least try our best to sort some of the things out. 

On 8/15/2020 at 2:22 AM, thaibreakfast said:

Nothing at all to do with Trump having consistently denigrated mask-wearing? Even now, he violates the White House's own guidelines. He politicized public health issues.

No nothing to do with Trump at all. We are not robots that follow what any president does or doesn't do but thanks for making this political

The real question is why so many believe/follow such irrational orders regarding covid. But we already have scientific answers to that: 1) unquestionable submission to authority 2) hypochondria

I would also add laziness or limited intellectual ability to overcome the huge propaganda/censorship and form a real opinion (not the one spoon fed to us)

33 minutes ago, LiveKiss said:

The real question is why so many believe/follow such irrational orders regarding covid. But we already have scientific answers to that: 1) unquestionable submission to authority 2) hypochondria

I would also add laziness or limited intellectual ability to overcome the huge propaganda/censorship and form a real opinion (not the one spoon fed to us)

Ahh another one who knows better than the experts. Can you tell us exactly which branch of epidemiology you specialise in please?