Navy: Country Needs Submarine

[RichardColeman]

Actually I am all FOR them buying these subs and any other military hardware they need or want . BUT, the proviso should be they demonstrate the stuff they bought before worked in a war, prevented a war or was shown to actually protect Thailand with examples of exactly who it was used or threatened against to protect thailand. If that be done, then more is just a waste

[Curt1591]

Boys and their toys ...

[rupert the bear]

a cross between alice in wonderland and the emporer has no clothes,cant they see that,everyone is laughing at them and getting angry.this will just about finish them off,it could pay the 5000 mnth for all the thais out of work for mnths but NO.now you will see massive backing for change,no one can ignore this level of depravity ,this is the turning point and i guess another massive hillock of bs when boss is excused due to the fact the copper was suicidal!!tick tock tick tock the end is nigh .all is needed is a clean decent leader ahh there are a few .but they were outlawed from politics ,that will change and soon,check your watch mr govt yep that big fat expensive one your buddy leant you ha ha ha what a sick joke these parasites are.have been running a great scam for how long now,end games in sight due to your massive greed and stupidity

[yellowboat]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Navy chief-of-staff Adm Sitthiporn Matkasem said the navy was procuring a submarine in accordance with its national defense strategy and incomplete information about the procurement project might be politically motivated.

Didn't come up with the tragedy I mean strategy so they could buy the subs?  Their allies during WW2 gave them subs.  Should the world take notice of Thailand's military strategy?  What is the strategy?   Does anyone know?  Why are they needed.   Maybe Jack Ma knows.

[rupert the bear]

its quite obvious that the lao navy poses a clear and apparent danger.in alliance with their mainland allies the enemy shall be swept from the confines of the mekhong and civility established,the south china sea ,ummm but thailand has the bay of thailand and the andaman sea as its maritime border.i think this is the fuse,now lit. it will explode in their faces.the demos will go to most parts of society now,everyone can see what they are now,the subs brown envelope will pay for months of 5000 baht handouts to millions of unemployed people.enough said .thats it game over ,no ones wearing this

[yellowboat]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

He added that the submarines would reinforce Thailand's bargaining power when negotiating with other countries to defend national interests.

Sounds like they wish to be more aggressive militarily.  Are they aligning themselves with China?  The Japanese gave them subs, and we know the history regarding that.  Doesn't sound very helpful for the average Thai. 

[DeepSea]

2 hours ago, misterjames said:

It maybe what Sino-Thai means but with only 11 to 14 percent of Thailand's population being Sino-Thai the overwhelming majority are actually not "Chinese at heart" as you put it.

 

 

You're correct of course, but a large part of that 11 to 14% are in positions of power, or pack significant financial clout; in other words, they make or influence the decisions that the unfortunate plebs have to pay for.

[owl sees all]

Yes! Submarines; painted yellow in line with the National Defence Strategy. I also like the idea of solar powered airships, dropping snakes onto the enemy. Subs are old hat. Drones!! They are the new weaponry.

 

A country has to protect itself from aliens.

 

 

Edited August 25, 2020 by owl sees all

[Tony M]

I would have thought that amongst the main purposes of subs is the ability to remain silent and undetected at sea. Do the Thais really think that subs bought from the Chinese will be undetectable by the Chinese if it came to a conflict ? The Chinese will always know where those subs are, anywhere on the planet.

[Bkk Brian]

secret simulation test runs being carried out already

[Dukeleto]

13 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Next destroyers and aircraft carriers...followed by nuclear energy...only used for the Chinese peaceful expansion...

Aircraft carriers? These guys can barely land on land let alone a moving, rolling and pitching object on water! They would have to do all their navy aircraft carrier exercises in the doldrums????.

[Mr Meeseeks]

I don't know what use submarines will be? 

 

They don't have mirrors to help with popping pimples or loud exhausts. 

 

Seems to be a compensation exercise for inadequate men in uniform. 

 

[Dukeleto]

Under the table shenanigans is the only logical and plausible reason for buying Ing these rust buckets.

[Mr Meeseeks]

7 hours ago, meechai said:

Come On !!!

 

There are 3 countries capable of invading another country on a distant shore

 

China

Russia

USA

 

None of these have any desire to invade Thailand.....What for gawds sake would be the prize?

 

That aside if for some bizarre reason a country with distant shores invading capability wanted to invade Thailand....

These toy subs & this toy military force could do nothing to stop it period.

 

It is just another trip to the trough for the usual suspects with padded expenses

 

 

You missed out UK which has the ability to mobilise an invasion force globally as demonstrated in Iraq, Afghanistan and more importantly the Falklands. 

[misterjames]

22 minutes ago, Tony M said:

I would have thought that amongst the main purposes of subs is the ability to remain silent and undetected at sea. Do the Thais really think that subs bought from the Chinese will be undetectable by the Chinese if it came to a conflict ? The Chinese will always know where those subs are, anywhere on the planet.

I think you are missing the ruse Thailand has no stake in the south China sea whatsoever however they will be using the subs to back up China against the west in return for a few droplets of water from the Chinese dams upstream on the Mekong (and paying for the privilege by buying submarines).

[PatOngo]

3 hours ago, misterjames said:

It maybe what Sino-Thai means but with only 11 to 14 percent of Thailand's population being Sino-Thai the overwhelming majority are actually not "Chinese at heart" as you put it.

 

 

You need to look beyond the puppet government to see where the power is!

[misterjames]

4 minutes ago, PatOngo said:

You need to look beyond the puppet government to see where the power is!

I think you have lost context of my comment the user said "they are sino-thai" when describing Thai people saying that "they" are "Chinese at heart" which is a broad statement an incorrect one when sino-thai's are a small minority in Thailand whether or not they have power is another subject that I didn't comment upon.

[rickthompson]

58 metres

 

The gulf is relatively shallow: its mean depth is 58 metres (190 ft) and the maximum depth is only 85 metres (279 ft). This makes water exchange slow, and the strong water inflow from the rivers reduce the level of salinity in the gulf (3.05–3.25 percent) and enriches the sediments.

 

Gulf of Thailand - Wikipedia

[fondue zoo]

[Stoker58]

4 hours ago, misterjames said:

It maybe what Sino-Thai means but with only 11 to 14 percent of Thailand's population being Sino-Thai the overwhelming majority are actually not "Chinese at heart" as you put it.

 

 

  Problem is that the 14% Sino-Thai and the Bangkok elite are virtually one and the same. I’ve found that many ordinary Thais dislike what they call the ‘Thai Chine’, and this is at the heart of the divisions in the country.

[rskdev]

Good, let them have at it. Be good target practice for our Ohio Class Subs when the time comes. Would basically be a Turkey shoot. Make some good artificial reefs in the south china sea.

[kcpattaya]

"Muppets" springs to mind and I don't know why...

[misterjames]

Just now, Stoker58 said:

  Problem is that the 14% Sino-Thai and the Bangkok elite are virtually one and the same. I’ve found that many ordinary Thais dislike what they call the ‘Thai Chine’, and this is at the heart of the divisions in the country.

Who is talking about the Bangkok elite? I would agree most Thai people don't like Thai Chinese that's my point "they" the Thai people are not "Chinese at heart" and if this situation is anything to go by I can understand why.  I would put it down to the checkmate situation that the Chinese have put Thailand into rather than some Bangkok elite pulling the strings anyone that has read the art of war knows how they operate I think it's more about their debt trap policy than elites personally.

[JoePai]

3 hours ago, The Farang said:

Meanwhile,  people struggling to eat because they can't get work with the borders closed.

And then they waste even more on a couple of trams !!

 

to invest around Bt35 billion for the first phase of its tram project in Phuket

[DUNROAMIN]

Thailand cant even provide proper waste management collection/facilities for the people, let alone billions of Barht for Submarines to protect what?????

[TheFishman1]

Government spends 22 billion while the rice farmers are starving somebody Highup is getting a big chunk of that I guess they call it a commission sure they won’t cancel their commission TIT

[trainman34014]

4 hours ago, mark131v said:

# abso<deleted>inlutelydeluded.com

 

Takes years to build up a submarine force

 

1. First thing you need is a professional pool of military soldiers, sailors and technicians not to mention leadership with a high degree of education and ability, also required is appropriate infrastructure to deliver the training and development required to achieve the aim of a 21st century Submarine capability 

 

2. Cannot......

 

You don't need all the expertise when the only intention is to park them up next to the Aircraft Carrier and never use them because the Sailors would be 'too scared' to go underwater.   They are only being bought for the amount of rake off certain people will be getting out of the deal !

[Surasak]

14 hours ago, Lingba said:

National defense???..what a load of <deleted>...the only people they need to defend against is themselves and their idiotic driving skills....

I can just imagine it now. 2 subs involved in a head on crash, or a T bone. "The windscreen was blanked out, and the brakes didn't work".

[Henryford]

The only threat in the South China Sea is China. Is Thailand's one clapped out submarine going to take on China.

[hadi8253]