Prominent Republicans throw weight behind Biden as Trump's convention opens

[J Town]

Let this sink in:

 

This is the first time in history that not ONE former president is endorsing an incumbent running for re-election.

 

Think about that.

[Tippaporn]

1 minute ago, candide said:

And of course, your figures are inaccurate.

LOL.  You guys pick the one lie out of the seventeen I posted that could be debated inconclusively forever.  In any case, the point of my post was that CNN and Brian Stelter want to fact-check the RNC in real time, breaking away whenever they do so, which is utter hypocrisy on display as CNN and Stelter would dare not fact-check the DNC for lies.  Balanced journalism?  LMAO.

 

Of course none of you Trump-haters would actually speak to my point.  You simply deflect with an attempt to refute that their lies are lies by picking the one lie that has the most grey area.  It really does get boring.

[rcummings]

8 minutes ago, candide said:

And of course, your figures are inaccurate.

And Trump's numbers got a big boost from a tax cut that resulted in no permanent benefit to the economy. Unless you define the economy as the top 10%.

[Tippaporn]

16 minutes ago, J Town said:

Let this sink in:

 

This is the first time in history that not ONE former president is endorsing an incumbent running for re-election.

 

Think about that.

LOL, Jimmy Carter is 95 years old, a Democrat, and supports Biden.  Natch.  Of the remaining living Presidents there are only Clinton, Bush and Obama.  Clinton and Obama are Dems and staunch foes of Trump for obvious reasons.  I doubt Bush has any love for Trump and if it were me I'd rather not have his endorsement.  So there's a first time for everything.  Is that supposed to be bad?  LOL  A completely meaningless bit of trivia.  Let that sink in.

 

Edited August 25, 2020 by Tippaporn

[Dap]

9 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

No big deal.  How "prominent" can they be if they are all "former" lawmakers?  It's been well known that numbers of Republicans never endorsed Trump.  So what?  Former Democratic New Jersey Rep. Jeff Van Drew changed parties on Jan. 7th this year over Trump's impeachment.  Me thinks this article is attempting to take a nothing burger and create a something burger out of it.

We'll see once the votes are counted.

[Pattaya Spotter]

12 minutes ago, J Town said:

Let this sink in:

 

This is the first time in history that not ONE former president is endorsing an incumbent running for re-election.

 

Think about that.

Jimmy "put on your cardigans...Iran hostage crisis" Carter...the Bushes "read my lips no new taxes"..."mission accomplished"...Bubba "I didn't have sex with that woman"...and Obama "you can keep your doctor"...that's a feature not a bug.

[Phoenix Rising]

12 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL.  You guys pick the one lie out of the seventeen I posted that could be debated inconclusively forever.  In any case, the point of my post was that CNN and Brian Stelter want to fact-check the RNC in real time, breaking away whenever they do so, which is utter hypocrisy on display as CNN and Stelter would dare not fact-check the DNC for lies.  Balanced journalism?  LMAO.

 

Of course none of you Trump-haters would actually speak to my point.  You simply deflect with an attempt to refute that their lies are lies by picking the one lie that has the most grey area.  It really does get boring.

Well, you don't have to participate.

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Jimmy "put on your cardigans...Iran hostage crisis" Carter...the Bushes "read my lips no new taxes"..."mission accomplished"...Bubba "I didn't have sex with that woman"...and Obama "you can keep your doctor"...that's a feature not a bug.

Mexico will pay for the wall

repeal and replace

[Tippaporn]

2 minutes ago, Dap said:

We'll see once the votes are counted.

If the votes ever do get counted.  LOL  I expect maximum mischief out of the Dems as they many of them are literally fighting for their lives.  You think things are insane now?  Just wait.

[dunroaming]

In the real world Biden couldn't win second prize in a schmuck of the year contest.  But he is up against the moronic Trump so a win is pretty much guaranteed.  The Trump apologists will desperately keep trying to excuse the orange buffoon but in their heart they must know he is dead in the water.  

[Phoenix Rising]

6 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Jimmy "put on your cardigans...Iran hostage crisis" Carter...the Bushes "read my lips no new taxes"..."mission accomplished"...Bubba "I didn't have sex with that woman"...and Obama "you can keep your doctor"...that's a feature not a bug.

LOL, a base trump supporter sulking due to lies told by former presidents when we all know the present one has told more lies than all the world's used car salesmen put together. Priceless!

[candide]

22 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL.  You guys pick the one lie out of the seventeen I posted that could be debated inconclusively forever.  In any case, the point of my post was that CNN and Brian Stelter want to fact-check the RNC in real time, breaking away whenever they do so, which is utter hypocrisy on display as CNN and Stelter would dare not fact-check the DNC for lies.  Balanced journalism?  LMAO.

 

Of course none of you Trump-haters would actually speak to my point.  You simply deflect with an attempt to refute that their lies are lies by picking the one lie that has the most grey area.  It really does get boring.

I pointed out that you are posting inaccurate information.

About your more general claim:

Due to the proven record of Trump's lies, there's surely much more to check during the RNC

 

And actually, CNN did check for DNC lies. Another unsubstantiated claim.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/19/politics/fact-check-dnc-democratic-convention-night-1-night-2/index.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/21/politics/democratic-national-convention-biden-fact-check/index.html

Edited August 25, 2020 by candide

[stevenl]

21 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL.  You guys pick the one lie out of the seventeen I posted that could be debated inconclusively forever.  In any case, the point of my post was that CNN and Brian Stelter want to fact-check the RNC in real time, breaking away whenever they do so, which is utter hypocrisy on display as CNN and Stelter would dare not fact-check the DNC for lies.  Balanced journalism?  LMAO.

 

Of course none of you Trump-haters would actually speak to my point.  You simply deflect with an attempt to refute that their lies are lies by picking the one lie that has the most grey area.  It really does get boring.

Yes, balanced journalism, real time fact checking where required.

[Berkshire]

8 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Jimmy "put on your cardigans...Iran hostage crisis" Carter...the Bushes "read my lips no new taxes"..."mission accomplished"...Bubba "I didn't have sex with that woman"...and Obama "you can keep your doctor"...that's a feature not a bug.

This doesn't compare to the many, many Trump lies and failures.  Speaking of failures--most recent anyways--Trump's trade war has been a complete disaster for American businesses. 

 

[While Trump has repeatedly said that trade wars are “easy to win,” he has so far failed to get the Chinese to yield after nearly three years and is now trying to reach out directly to American businesses.]

 

[Industry analysts say President Donald Trump's trade policies to date have backfired, sending auto jobs to China instead of saving them for Americans.]

 

[At the same time, duties on Chinese-made auto goods have increased production costs for U.S. car buyers.]

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/trump-s-trade-war-drives-some-auto-jobs-china-n1237865

 

Good information to know right before an election.

[Pattaya Spotter]

18 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Mexico will pay for the wall

repeal and replace

The statement was made it was remarkable no living ex-president has endorsed Trump's re-election (why would they when none supported his election)...I wouldn't take voting advice from that failed lot.

[riclag]

33 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

Yes, it's often costly to take a stand against stupidity.

 

9 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Mexico will pay for the wall

repeal and replace

 

He also said he has the right to change his policies in 2016!

 

Mr. Trump lives rent free in your heads!

"Registered voters divided on which candidate will win

Overall, registered voters are divided over who they think will win the 2020 November election: While 50% of voters believe that Trump will win the presidential election, 48% predict a victory for Biden".

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/08/13/the-2020-trump-biden-matchup/

[Pattaya Spotter]

14 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

This doesn't compare to the many, many Trump lies and failures.  Speaking of failures--most recent anyways--Trump's trade war has been a complete disaster for American businesses.

I guess that's why the stock market is a record highs.

[J Town]

9 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

I guess that's why the stock market is a record highs.

Seriously? We have to go over this again? The stock market is NOT the economy and the market is at this moment being falsely bolstered up by the fed.

[Eric Loh]

16 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

I guess that's why the stock market is a record highs.

Come on. Is that sarcasm. FED buying all the debts and interest rate near zero with Trump’s intervention. It’s record high only for the gullible. 

[Sujo]

24 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

I guess that's why the stock market is a record highs.

Didnt trump previously state the stock market is no indication on the economy.

[Sujo]

25 minutes ago, riclag said:

 

 

He also said he has the right to change his policies in 2016!

 

Mr. Trump lives rent free in your heads!

"Registered voters divided on which candidate will win

Overall, registered voters are divided over who they think will win the 2020 November election: While 50% of voters believe that Trump will win the presidential election, 48% predict a victory for Biden".

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/08/13/the-2020-trump-biden-matchup/

Why are you quoting polls. Arent they wrong?

[EVENKEEL]

19 minutes ago, J Town said:

Seriously? We have to go over this again? The stock market is NOT the economy and the market is at this moment being falsely bolstered up by the fed.

Show proof, or go away.

[Pattaya Spotter]

18 minutes ago, J Town said:

Seriously? We have to go over this again? The stock market is NOT the economy and the market is at this moment being falsely bolstered up by the fed.

The poster said Trump's trade war is a "complete disaster" for American business...the stock market is probably the best barometer we have of the health of America's large public companies, which are the ones most likely to engage in international trade.

[J Town]

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Show proof, or go away.

OK, just cuz you say so.

[rcummings]

1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:

LOL.  You guys pick the one lie out of the seventeen I posted that could be debated inconclusively forever.  In any case, the point of my post was that CNN and Brian Stelter want to fact-check the RNC in real time, breaking away whenever they do so, which is utter hypocrisy on display as CNN and Stelter would dare not fact-check the DNC for lies.  Balanced journalism?  LMAO.

 

Of course none of you Trump-haters would actually speak to my point.  You simply deflect with an attempt to refute that their lies are lies by picking the one lie that has the most grey area.  It really does get boring.

First off, it was 2. Your so called proof that Biden was lax in his response to H1N1  actually showed the opposite. He was extremely pro-active. Thanks for providing that information.

And while it's easy to make dishonest or misleading assertions, it takes a lot more work and time to show them up for what they really are. Not incumbent upon me or anyone else to do so. I've shown how you operate. That's enough for me. 

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Lovely headline:

 

Trump sets convention tone by claiming without evidence Democrats will steal election

Whenever the MSM tries to refute the massive potential existing for mail-in voter fraud due to mass mailings when Trump raises it it is always with the line *without evidence.*   Here the headline goes so far to infer that Trump is saying the Dems "will steal election," although in their piece they bring it back to reality and say, "will seek to steal the election."  But hey, you might fool some people with that erroneous headline.  In fact, it's already worked as I just read a post above that repeats the "will steal" wording.

 

I want to make note, too, that mass mailings of ballots to every person on the voter rolls, living, dead or non-existent, has never been done before.  So how can you even make the claim "without evidence?"  On the other hand there have already been some other elections which have devolved into mayhem due to using mass mailings (Trump has mentioned some of these several times) so perhaps evidence has presented itself already.

"I want to make note, too, that mass mailings of ballots to every person on the voter rolls, living, dead or non-existent, has never been done before.  So how can you even make the claim "without evidence?""

 

Easy; that is not evidence. 

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, rcummings said:

Are you saying that Trump didn't fulfill his promise to let Medicare negotiate drug prices?

Or to come up with a beautiful health care bill?

Or institute a 1 trillion dollar infrastructure program?

Not fair.

 

Are you saying that is every promise Trump made?

 

BTW:  coming up with bills and programs that don't become law is nothing to brag about.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

You're on your own in that regard because the GOP doesn't have an agenda for 2020

 

 

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-no-new-2020-platform-trump-agenda

 

GOP announces no new 2020 platform, party to 'enthusiastically support' Trump agenda

The resolution leaves in place the party's 2016 platform

Is he sticking with MAGA?  Will he campaign on the promise to correct all the incompetence and corruption of the current administration?

[heybruce]

7 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

The poster said Trump's trade war is a "complete disaster" for American business...the stock market is probably the best barometer we have of the health of America's large public companies, which are the ones most likely to engage in international trade.

Tech stocks that have benefited from the pandemic are skewing the result:

 

"But what’s most striking is what’s been happening more recently – since June, while the biggest stocks have been pulling the S&P towards record highs from February, the S&P minus those ten names is still lower than it was just two months ago. "  https://www.thestreet.com/trends/news/heres-what-the-s-p-500-looks-like-in-2020-without-big-tech

 

It's also worth remembering that the stock market doesn't have much competition for investment dollars.  With interest rates near zero there isn't a viable alternative for many investors to the market.

[J Town]

Just now, heybruce said:

Is he sticking with MAGA?  Will he campaign on the promise to correct all the incompetence and corruption of the current administration?

His campaign repeatedly shows videos of the current sh!tshow threatening that if people vote for Biden, this is what they will suffer. His supporters don't have the proper number of available brain cells to realize 45 is showing what HE has already done. SMH!!!