Popular Post webfact Posted August 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2020 One shot dead in Portland as rival protesters clash By Kanishka Singh Medics and police personnel (bottom) surround the victim of a shooting in Portland, Oregon, U.S. August 29, 2020, in this still image obtained from a social media video. Courtesy of Sergio Olmos/Social Media via REUTERS. (Reuters) - One person was shot dead in Portland late on Saturday as protesters from rival groups clashed in the northwest U.S. city, which has seen frequent demonstrations for months that have at times turned violent. Police said in statements that both the death and protest violence occurred in downtown Portland. However, they did not immediately link the shooting death to the protests. "(Police) responded and located a victim with a gunshot wound to the chest. Medical responded and determined that the victim was deceased," a Portland police spokesman said in an emailed statement. "A Homicide Investigation is underway." Sounds of gunfire were heard in the area of Southeast 3rd Avenue and Southwest Alder Street, according to the spokesman's statement. The police said they were not currently releasing suspect information. Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf on CBS's Face the Nation on Sunday blamed on local leaders for a surge in violence in Portland and called for a crackdown. Gavino Garay has more. 2020-08-30T200811Z_2_LOV000M6YYWDR_RTRMADV_STREAM-2000-16X9-MP4_GLOBAL-RACE-PORTLAND.MP4 When asked by Reuters if the shooting was related to clashes between rival protesters in the same area, the spokesman said "it is too early in the investigation to draw those kinds of conclusions". The New York Times and the Oregonian newspapers reported that a large group of supporters of President Donald Trump had traveled in a caravan through downtown Portland, with a pro-Trump gathering drawing hundreds of trucks full of supporters into the city. The Times cited two unidentified witnesses as saying a small group of people got into an argument with other people in a vehicle and someone opened fire. The man who was shot and killed was wearing a hat with the insignia of Patriot Prayer, a far-right group based in Portland that has clashed with protesters in the past, according to the New York Times. Reuters could not independently verify this. Portland police earlier said in a tweet that a "political rally is caravanning throughout downtown Portland" and that there had been "some instances of violence between demonstrators and counter-demonstrators." Police had intervened and made some arrests, they said in the tweet. The New York Times reported that Trump supporters and counter-protesters clashed on the streets, with people shooting paint ball guns from the beds of pickup trucks and protesters throwing objects back at them. The pro-Trump vehicle rally began near Clackamas Town Center before reaching Portland on Saturday evening, with clashes breaking out thereafter between Trump supporters and counter-protesters, the Oregonian reported. It added that the shooting took place after most of the caravan had left downtown. Demonstrations against racism and police brutality have swept the United States since the death in May of George Floyd, a 46-year-old Black man who died after a Minneapolis police officer knelt on his neck for nearly nine minutes. Tensions between rival protest groups have roiled downtown Portland every night for nearly three months following Floyd's death. The Trump administration in July deployed federal forces to Portland to crack down on the protests. (Reporting by Kanishka Singh in Bengaluru; Editing by Sam Holmes and Hugh Lawson) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-08-31 - Whatever you're going through, the Samaritans are here for you - Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puchaiyank Posted August 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2020 Evil does not communicate, does not cooperate, does not compromise, does not tolerate any position other than its own. This is not the face of democracy...it is not the vision of the founders of the constitution, it has not been historically expedient to riot, loot, and burn to gain political leverage... "Stupid is as stupid does!" 5 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PatOngo Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 So, why was'nt there a good guy with a gun to shoot the bad guy with a gun? ???? 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted August 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, PatOngo said: So, why was'nt there a good guy with a gun to shoot the bad guy with a gun? ???? ...and then a bad guy with a gun to shoot the good guy with a gun and so on ad infinitum.. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Tippaporn Posted August 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2020 Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler holds presser blaming Trump. "And now you want me to stop the violence that you helped create." I'm dumbfounded to think that these Democrats think this strategy of deflecting blame to Trump is going to work. When their polling numbers hit rock bottom they'll change their tune. But by then it will be obvious to any idiot that their change in stance is not motivated by any values Americans hold dear but simply due to the shifting political winds. These Democrat governors and mayors are complete fools. 12 3 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted August 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler holds presser blaming Trump. "And now you want me to stop the violence that you helped create." I'm dumbfounded to think that these Democrats think this strategy of deflecting blame to Trump is going to work. When their polling numbers hit rock bottom they'll change their tune. But by then it will be obvious to any idiot that their change in stance is not motivated by any values Americans hold dear but simply due to the shifting political winds. These Democrat governors and mayors are complete fools. This is happening on trumps watch he cannot bring himself to condem violence against people of color I think the mayor of Portland is spot on as trump is inciting much of this violence his visit will do nothing to solve a problem only exaberate it especially if he thinks it works to his advantage 7 2 3 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted August 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2020 38 minutes ago, PatOngo said: So, why was'nt there a good guy with a gun to shoot the bad guy with a gun? ???? A good guy did try to get the little murdering vigilantes gun away and got killed for it he was protecting his girl 1 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 The President is engaged in stochastic terrorism. The results are nutters within his followers start shooting people. It will continue until he is removed from office. 5 3 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The President is engaged in stochastic terrorism. The results are nutters within his followers start shooting people. It will continue until he is removed from office. The one shot was a follower of the right. 5 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PatOngo Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 39 minutes ago, Tug said: A good guy did try to get the little murdering vigilantes gun away and got killed for it he was protecting his girl Image..................................America without guns! But then again, you'd probably beat each other with sticks! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: The one shot was a follower of the right. And the shooter was? Trump has encouraged armed rightwing groups and individuals to face off against protesters across the country. I doubt Trump has ever read Chekhov, but he’s certainly in the process of proving him correct on the matter of guns. 4 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: And the shooter was? Trump has encouraged armed rightwing groups and individuals to face off against protesters across the country. I doubt Trump has ever read Chekhov, but he’s certainly in the process of proving him correct on the matter of guns. Tell us how Trump encouraged murder and mayhem. Did he give secret hand signals, a wink, please show proof of your accusations. 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Boon Mee Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Tippaporn said: Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler holds presser blaming Trump. "And now you want me to stop the violence that you helped create." I'm dumbfounded to think that these Democrats think this strategy of deflecting blame to Trump is going to work. When their polling numbers hit rock bottom they'll change their tune. But by then it will be obvious to any idiot that their change in stance is not motivated by any values Americans hold dear but simply due to the shifting political winds. These Democrat governors and mayors are complete fools. Completely out of touch with reality. Panicking they are since the writing is on the wall re. November. 4 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post loong Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: And the shooter was? Trump has encouraged armed rightwing groups and individuals to face off against protesters across the country. I doubt Trump has ever read Chekhov, but he’s certainly in the process of proving him correct on the matter of guns. Quote Trump has encouraged armed rightwing groups and individuals to face off against protesters across the country. OMG! That is absolutely terrible! Please provide the source where Trump made this announcement encouraging such violence. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post animalmagic Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Tippaporn said: Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler holds presser blaming Trump. "And now you want me to stop the violence that you helped create." I'm dumbfounded to think that these Democrats think this strategy of deflecting blame to Trump is going to work. When their polling numbers hit rock bottom they'll change their tune. But by then it will be obvious to any idiot that their change in stance is not motivated by any values Americans hold dear but simply due to the shifting political winds. These Democrat governors and mayors are complete fools. Deflection of blame is becoming a national pastime. Seems a bit of a waste of time to deflect blame onto someone who takes no responsibility when it suits him, or deflects blame all the time himself. The growing hatred by one group of people against another group of people with different principles, interests and beliefs is quite staggering. 'United' States of America? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mama Noodle Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 57 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It will continue until he is removed from office. As if you needed another very good reason to vote red this November, this is it. This is what the left is banking on. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Tell us how Trump encouraged murder and mayhem. Did he give secret hand signals, a wink, please show proof of your accusations. Where did I say Trump encouraged ‘murder and mayhem’? I said he’s engaged in stochastic terrorism and has encouraged rightwing groups and individuals to face off against protesters. You might want to read up on ‘stochastic terrorism’. 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nobodysfriend Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, animalmagic said: 'United' States of America? As long as there is no unity , but bitter division , America will not be " great ' again . So , his own policies made it impossible for Trump to keep his promise to ' make America great again ' . 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tippaporn Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 46 minutes ago, PatOngo said: Image..................................America without guns! But then again, you'd probably beat each other with sticks! Guns are the only protection against tyrannical government. Tell me that governments never devolve into tyranny and I'll show you someone who has never read history. 2 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said: As if you needed another very good reason to vote red this November, this is it. This is what the left is banking on. Once again pure projection. Kelly Anne Conway has already revealed the diametrically opposed truth to your claim. Edited August 31, 2020 by Chomper Higgot 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodga Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: The President is engaged in stochastic terrorism. The results are nutters within his followers start shooting people. It will continue until he is removed from office. NUTTERS on BOTH sides and both need to be dealt with the same and stop this BLM B.S as an excuse to riot and have a free for all. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Tippaporn said: Guns are the only protection against tyrannical government. Tell me that governments never devolve into tyranny and I'll show you someone who has never read history. We don’t really need to look at history do we?! 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, Boon Mee said: Completely out of touch with reality. Panicking they are since the writing is on the wall re. November. And they see the writing very, very clearly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post animalmagic Posted August 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: 10 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: Guns are the only protection against tyrannical government. Tell me that governments never devolve into tyranny and I'll show you someone who has never read history. Perhaps the example of Gandhi, Mandela (in his latter years), plus others are an example that guns are not always the answer to tyrannical governments. I am interested in your posit that governments devolve into tyranny; do you mean every government? Does that not then include the current government in America? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 hours ago, PatOngo said: So, why was'nt there a good guy with a gun to shoot the bad guy with a gun? ???? Maybe it was the good guy who fired first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tippaporn Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 24 minutes ago, animalmagic said: 2 hours ago, Tippaporn said: Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler holds presser blaming Trump. "And now you want me to stop the violence that you helped create." I'm dumbfounded to think that these Democrats think this strategy of deflecting blame to Trump is going to work. When their polling numbers hit rock bottom they'll change their tune. But by then it will be obvious to any idiot that their change in stance is not motivated by any values Americans hold dear but simply due to the shifting political winds. These Democrat governors and mayors are complete fools. Deflection of blame is becoming a national pastime. Seems a bit of a waste of time to deflect blame onto someone who takes no responsibility when it suits him, or deflects blame all the time himself. The growing hatred by one group of people against another group of people with different principles, interests and beliefs is quite staggering. 'United' States of America? The voters will decide Nov. 4th who the one deflecting blame is and who the one rightfully assigning blame is. What you see as hatred towards different principles and beliefs is no so much hatred but a rejection of principles and beliefs which are misguided at best and preposterous at worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 33 minutes ago, Tippaporn said: Guns are the only protection against tyrannical government. Tell me that governments never devolve into tyranny and I'll show you someone who has never read history. Americans killing Americans! YEE HAA! Git er dun! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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