Tourists on the new Special Tourist Visa will have to arrive on charter flights

[Sheryl]

6 minutes ago, mberbae said:

One gets the feeling that TAT members have been binge drinking hydroxychloroquine and attempting

to earn their paychecks by coming up with these ridiculous ideas. Charter flights ??!! Where will 6 tourists

from Finland find a Charter Flight ??

 

They may use the chartered flights to enforce the plan to limit this to certain countries where COVID is considered under control.

 

 

[FalangJaiDee]

4 hours ago, Forza2002 said:

Charter flights won't be cheap. By the time you add in compulsory 14 quarantine hotel, flights, CV19 insurance, other admin costs you are probably looking at min. $5K before you even start your holiday on day 15...

I know ASQ is between 1k-2k. How much would a ticket cost on the scheduled chartered flights from...*COUGH*...the USA?

[davidmann]

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

No they will more than likely be chatered Thai airways specific flights, get ready to pay some money its the only way the 14,400 estimated for the year will spend what TAT estimated at 12.3 billion Baht. Does not take much of an immagination.

Dream world.  , so i am going on holiday where ?

[CapeTown]

What would motivate someone to pay 5k$ up front, spend a fortnight in a government hotel, put up with all the paperwork and testing; for 90 days, renewable twice (more expense and hassle? And after that?)?

 

Love? By now, 6 or more months later, most separated couples will have found someone else.

 

Money? Yes, people who had businesses or properties that they've not been able to look after.

 

Tourism? This is the 40 million annual, now it will certainly be zero. So as an experimental reopening, the 1,200 monthly are completely unrepresentative.

 

There are immense pressures to reopen, but best to stick to the gold standard and meanwhile prepare to deliver the vaccine in hopefully the first half of next year.

 

(Dont get me wrong - I wish Thailand every success, but the risks are high in a country unprepared to deal with an epidemic. Let's get real)

[2 is 1]

17 minutes ago, mberbae said:

One gets the feeling that TAT members have been binge drinking hydroxychloroquine and attempting

to earn their paychecks by coming up with these ridiculous ideas. Charter flights ??!! Where will 6 tourists

from Finland find a Charter Flight ??

7 ! They have solution about that!

 

 

4 times / week, they bring soi dogs same style back to Finland! That kind dogs whitch ball's not cut off yet!

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, MRToMRT said:

Its a start at least. From small acorns.....

 

I see it as just a toe in the water to get ready for more easing, little steps. By Jan things will be easing

It is due to run for a year. Those who have invested a considerable sum of "influence" in setting up this scheme are hardly likely to have done so if there was to be any "easing" before that time has elapsed.

[2 is 1]

45 minutes ago, wimpy said:

The first wave of arrivals? Try trickle. I have described this scheme to friends; they don't sound particularly interested.

So you don't have stupid friend's! But i don't know what happen in your head to describe this idea to your friend's!? You not like them!?

Edited September 17, 2020 by 2 is 1

[abrahamzvi]

5 hours ago, DLock said:

 

I missed that "minimum" of 90 days.

 

And now another gem of :

 

 

....ha ha ha...so Thai Airlines misses out on even these well - healed  1,200 tourists.

 

Well thought through Cha Cha.

With all due respect, I am unable to understand the sentence saying that "A handful of scheduled flights, in and out of Thailand, mostly either as a transit or dropping off cargo, provide few options for a return to general tourism at this stage which is forcing the government to work with overseas embassies to organize charter flights for the STV program." Surely most airlines flying into Thailand (I understand some European ones as well as Emirates will have flights to Bangkok) can bring in tourists, even if they are only in transit. Am I wrong?

[treetops]

7 minutes ago, abrahamzvi said:

Surely most airlines flying into Thailand (I understand some European ones as well as Emirates will have flights to Bangkok) can bring in tourists, even if they are only in transit. Am I wrong?

No, you're right.  Also some from further East like Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan etc.  Ones currently flying in without passengers could start to bring them.  It's just another bit of the schemes atrocious planning and initial announcement.

Edited September 17, 2020 by treetops

[FarFlungFalang]

I think this visas sole purpose is to splash the word "safe" around the media as deaths have started diminishing in many places the pandemic is taking it's final bow before departing the world stage and the old normal can return to regular programming.I don't think people are very interested in putting up with the new normal <deleted> as CFR's have plunged to around normal flu levels with so much testing and reduced deaths.

[zyphodb]

2 hours ago, Poet said:

Perhaps, but I'm not the one saying "Frankly, I couldn't care less" about fellow humans facing expulsion from a supposedly Covid-free country and facing the exposure of long journeys home. That's hardly a God-like sentiment, is it?

My being an indisputable WINNER does not mean others have to lose. Or catch Covid-19 ????

 

Don't you know, this is Thaivisa, no compassion or empathy allowed here...

[Megasin1]

1 plane a week, this plane will start in the USA, fly over to Europe via the UK, flip to the Arab states, after Europe, pop into Israel, fill up with Indians and then will stop at Bangkok, Phuket, Hua Hin and Chiang Mai. As you can see it will take at least a week to get there and all the passengers will be guaranteed to have Covid by the time they land....absolute bliss for the Thai government, they can all spend 9 months locked up....where do I book my ticket? Oh whoops I have already booked elsewhere, never mind ????

 

[Xaos]

Its ridiculous how they made that graphic when they count money how much they will get per tourist lol... 

 

This visa requirements are too strict plus quarantine. 

 

It cost 5000$ to come to thailand now from use with visa etc... From ppl reports. 

 

Why would anyone come here? For example if u got 18GBP flight from UK to Corfu Grece and hassle free. 

 

Thais are deluded. 

[Chiang Mai Bill]

6 hours ago, YetAnother said:

just keep throwing obstacles and keep imagining people dont notice

So, 1200 per month = 300 per week!  All from different countries so it is highly unlikely that there would be sufficient numbers to fill 10% of a plane!

 

I wonder what airline would be willing to fly at such a loss! 

[Zikomat]

The first group of well-healed tourists on their way to 14 days Thai quarantine.
 

 

[jollyhangmon]

10 minutes ago, Xaos said:

Its ridiculous how they made that graphic when they count money how much they will get per tourist lol... 

 

This visa requirements are too strict plus quarantine. 

 

It cost 5000$ to come to thailand now from use with visa etc... From ppl reports. 

 

Why would anyone come here? For example if u got 18GBP flight from UK to Corfu Grece and hassle free. 

 

Thais are deluded. 

 

... 555, you've got to see it to halfway believe it ... whoever came up with that got most likely switched by (sea-)gypsies as a baby ...

 

'These cows will be milked dry' ... sounds like they've got a plan ... ????  

 

[Flying Saucage]

40 minutes ago, Megasin1 said:

1 plane a week, this plane will start in the USA, fly over to Europe via the UK, flip to the Arab states, after Europe, pop into Israel, fill up with Indians and then will stop at Bangkok, Phuket, Hua Hin and Chiang Mai. As you can see it will take at least a week to get there and all the passengers will be guaranteed to have Covid by the time they land....absolute bliss for the Thai government, they can all spend 9 months locked up....where do I book my ticket? Oh whoops I have already booked elsewhere, never mind ????

 

I don't think so. This one plane will depart from Beijing only, I believe. You know, Chinese are not as contagious as we dirty Westerners are.   

[natway09]

First they come up with an idea that may work & then charter flights get added.

That idea just got ruined

[geisha]

It will probably have some success with people desperate to get back to Thailand, but not with bond fide tourists. 

[Flying Saucage]

17 minutes ago, Chiang Mai Bill said:

So, 1200 per month = 300 per week!  All from different countries so it is highly unlikely that there would be sufficient numbers to fill 10% of a plane!

 

I wonder what airline would be willing to fly at such a loss! 

It likely will be a full airplane of Air China, full with Chinese friends and investors 

[Nout]

6 hours ago, DLock said:

 

I missed that "minimum" of 90 days.

 

And now another gem of :

 

 

....ha ha ha...so Thai Airlines misses out on even these well - healed  1,200 tourists.

 

Well thought through Cha Cha.

You dont know what a charter flight is do you? 555 Who do you think rents the plane to the charter group? Who do you think the 'charter group' will be?

[kensisaket]

6 hours ago, Forza2002 said:

Charter flights won't be cheap. By the time you add in compulsory 14 quarantine hotel, flights, CV19 insurance, other admin costs you are probably looking at min. $5K before you even start your holiday on day 15...

Just did a Google search, the cost to charter a plane is between $1200 and $10000 USD per billable flight hour. 

[kiwikeith]

6 hours ago, RotBenz8888 said:

But the border closure to Myanmar is tightened... 

Dj's, footballers and Burmese babies can not spread C19, it is written.

Nor are they going to affect Thailand's virus numbers, by order.

 

I am just about to break open my piggy bank to see if I can afford to charter a plane to BK.

If 300 people per week fly into BK, then how many charter flights a week will that be?

Maybe 300 per week from each country allowed for this scheme, then only one flight per week- so maybe I will have to wait for 300 people to be ready to charter with me from NZ.

 

I'm so excited im going to call air NZ to get a charter price , maybe I could charter a single engine Cessna, and fuel hop across, certainly might be cheaper than chartering an A340.

 

 

[kiwikeith]

14 minutes ago, kensisaket said:

Just did a Google search, the cost to charter a plane is between $1200 and $10000 USD per billable flight hour. 

I did not see your post before I made mine , WOW so cheap 12 hours to BK from NZ only 120K US can you advise which airline I want to book now!

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai Immigration Bureau says they’re dusting off the finger-print ID and cameras at arrival booths in Bangkok in preparation for the first wave of ‘general’ tourism

 

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Another impediment to the success of the new STV was revealed after the Tourism Authority of Thailand deputy governor Thapanee Kiatphaibool said that the tourists would have to travel on chartered flights from overseas directly to their destinations in Thailand. The cost and infrequent nature of these flights would add a further barrier to the success of the visa.

300 maximum is more like a ripple... if even that.

And as for chartered flights who in gods name is going to pay for that to come here and sit in a hotel for 14 days then get the usual fleecing for the rest of the duration.

Lala land.

[Letseng]

7 hours ago, DLock said:

 

I missed that "minimum" of 90 days.

 

And now another gem of :

 

 

....ha ha ha...so Thai Airlines misses out on even these well - healed  1,200 tourists.

 

Well thought through Cha Cha.

They can offer charters on THAI. Same as many evac flights. TG would benefit.

[jacob29]

33 minutes ago, geisha said:

It will probably have some success with people desperate to get back to Thailand, but not with bond fide tourists. 

The so called fake tourists, subject of scorn to many a grumpy expat, finally have their day in the sun!

[MRToMRT]

22 minutes ago, kensisaket said:

Just did a Google search, the cost to charter a plane is between $1200 and $10000 USD per billable flight hour. 

I think its the standard Thai inter quarantine flight. They will just run more flights or fill up more seats.

[VBF]

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

You get the impression that there are hoards of tourists chomping at the bits to come to this paradise called Thailand, charter flights 90 days minimum finger printing insurance and 14 days quarantine, the ultimate destinations, come one come all...

Might I respectfully amend your post......

......the ultimate destinations, come one come that's all  ????

[Darkside Gray]

Charter flights? What air line is going to fly special flights for 100 people?