China air force video appears to show simulated attack on U.S. base on Guam

[steven100]

29 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

You do not speak for any "we". The World is not unified in support of your views. The World is not known for being able to effectively act in a coordinated manner.

I am 100% sure if you asked the 'We' of the world what they think of China, they would like to punish them also as I have commented.  'WE' being all those who suffered because of the Chinese governments lack of responsibility.  Thank you for your input. enough said for now.

goodbye.

[Eric Loh]

18 minutes ago, simple1 said:

I was asking the poster. However, got to say you're rather one sided. As an example, China supported Pol Pot and annoyed when Vietnam stepped in and sounds as though you support the PRC invasion of Tibet, China did not withdraw from Tibet, Tibet has been occupied ever since the invasion. True colours and all that...

Pol Pot was an evil man and China supported his political ideology. Personally I don’t support communist ideology and certainly don’t agree with China’s Cambodia position. I am just stating the cause of China’s border war with Vietnam and it didn’t fall under the definition of invasion as China withdrew their troops and didn’t occupied any territory. Tibet is complicated and has been an integral part of historical China. India, EU, UK and Obama recognized Tibet’s political subordination under China. Therefore my assertion that Tibet was an internal insurrection issue. 

[Morch]

13 minutes ago, steven100 said:

so it appears by your comments and responses that you are ok with the Chinese government not administering regulation to ensure H&S are implemented at slaughter markets where a virus was permitted to infect other around and thereby cause suffering to billions globally. 

 

It would appear that you either have reading comprehension issues, or trolling.

[Morch]

11 minutes ago, steven100 said:

I am 100% sure if you asked the 'We' of the world what they think of China, they would like to punish them also as I have commented.  'WE' being all those who suffered because of the Chinese governments lack of responsibility.  Thank you for your input. enough said for now.

goodbye.

 

What you are 100% sure of is neither fact, nor verifiable. You still do not speak for any "we", and your lame attempts to co-opt the entire world to your agenda is unconvincing.

[from the home of CC]

the Chinese are only going to turn their cheek so often though I don't believe the west seems to realize this. Economic blows to their business models will eventually cause them to take a stand and it won't be pleasant for anyone.. 

Edited September 24, 2020 by from the home of CC

[Morch]

6 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

the Chinese are only going to turn their cheek so often though I don't believe the west seems to realize this. Economic blows to their business models will eventually cause them to take a stand and it won't be pleasant for anyone.. 

In what way are the Chinese turning their cheek?

[ChipButty]

36 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Conscripts?

It didnt say, but they didnt look happy

[Ventenio]

I'm undercover CIA, NORAD commander and I have one of the keys to launch a nuclear war.

 

there is something NOBODY is smart enough to talk about (I've talked about it in 299 languages already)

 

google................................................................................skull island  

[from the home of CC]

2 hours ago, Morch said:

In what way are the Chinese turning their cheek?

by not escalating western sanctions and military posturing into offensive actions. The Chinese have been military provocateurs for decades now and now (in an election year lol) all of a sudden Donald Trump is going to be the worlds savior by stinging them economically during a time of their worst crop losses in decades?. The Chinese know militarily the US is posturing, for they have neither the will nor the guts to start a nuclear conflict. The Chinese will continue unabated and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it (if they don't want their country destroyed).

[billd766]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

We means the rest of the world, or those who suffered because the Chinese government allowed unhygienic slaughter practices to be carried at markets everywhere. 

But I guess your fine ....

Correct. I am fine. I have never been to China but I have been to countries like Angola, Bangladesh, Pakistan and one or two more where hygiene at markets is completely non existant and where government inspectors never go to.

 

You seem to speak on behalf of the world at times, but in reality you have no idea how the rest of the world feels or thinks about China.

 

You certainly don't need to speak on my behalf, as I can still manage to do that without help.

 

[billd766]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

so it appears by your comments and responses that you are ok with the Chinese government not administering regulation to ensure H&S are implemented at slaughter markets where a virus was permitted to infect other around and thereby cause suffering to billions globally. 

There you go speaking out on somebody elses post because you don't agree with them.

[steven100]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

There you go speaking out on somebody elses post because you don't agree with them.

based on his response and comment, I and most would say it appears he's ok that China didn't administer regulations to ensure H&S were implemented at slaughter markets where a virus was permitted to infect other around and thereby cause suffering to billions globally. 

 

quite simple Bill ....  lol     !!

[Morch]

1 hour ago, from the home of CC said:

by not escalating western sanctions and military posturing into offensive actions. The Chinese have been military provocateurs for decades now and now (in an election year lol) all of a sudden Donald Trump is going to be the worlds savior by stinging them economically during a time of their worst crop losses in decades?. The Chinese know militarily the US is posturing, for they have neither the will nor the guts to start a nuclear conflict. The Chinese will continue unabated and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it (if they don't want their country destroyed).

 

So, in your World, China did not respond to anything? No foreign citizens arrested? No reaction to Trump's 'trade war'? No threats against countries refusing to play along?

 

No military posturing? As in not doing a flyby just last week near Taiwan? Not bases built in contested waters in the South China Sea? Neighbors not bullied out of the same waters? No escalations vs. India?

 

The rest of what you posted got little to do with the point raised with regard to that bit from your original post.

[Morch]

8 minutes ago, steven100 said:

based on his response and comment, I and most would say it appears he's ok that China didn't administer regulations to ensure H&S were implemented at slaughter markets where a virus was permitted to infect other around and thereby cause suffering to billions globally. 

 

quite simple Bill ....  lol     !!

 

There was nothing in my post which conform to your misrepresentation of it. And you do not speak for any 'most' either.

[steven100]

11 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

There was nothing in my post which conform to your misrepresentation of it. And you do not speak for any 'most' either.

nonsense ... as I said, I would think most would agree China should be punished for not administering regulations to ensure H&S were implemented at slaughter markets where a virus was permitted to infect other around and thereby cause suffering to billions globally. And based on your disagreement with my comment only insinuates your approval to not punish China for the suffering it has caused. 

That's it.  enough simple terms,  they infected billions without precautions. 

Edited September 24, 2020 by steven100

[Morch]

4 minutes ago, steven100 said:

nonsense ... as I said, I would think most would agree China should be punished for not administering regulations to ensure H&S were implemented at slaughter markets where a virus was permitted to infect other around and thereby cause suffering to billions globally. 

That's it.  enough simple terms,  they infected billions without precautions. 

 

Your are welcome to your views, please do not twist mine, or misrepresent them - as you've done earlier. And no, you do not speak for 'most', even if you think so.

 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Morch

[steven100]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Your are welcome to your views, please do not twist mine, or misrepresent them - as you've done earlier. And no, you do not speak for 'most', even if you think so.

 

enough said .... I'm not sure what your trying to say,  do you say you are fine with what China did or are you not fine  ??

[teacherclaire]

"We are the defenders of the motherland's aerial security; we have the confidence and ability to always defend the security of the motherland's skies," the air force wrote in a brief description for the video.

 

To me that sounds worse than the Wuhan Virus. 

[scammed]

china cant even begin to compete in an armed conflict,

they have zero force projection, but worse still is they cant even protect nearby sea lines, they couldnt even secure

the sea line to singapore

[teacherclaire]

32 minutes ago, steven100 said:

based on his response and comment, I and most would say it appears he's ok that China didn't administer regulations to ensure H&S were implemented at slaughter markets where a virus was permitted to infect other around and thereby cause suffering to billions globally. 

 

quite simple Bill ....  lol     !!

I and most. Even most and I would be impolite, because not too many here share your political views. 

[Morch]

8 minutes ago, steven100 said:

enough said .... I'm not sure what your trying to say,  do you say you are fine with what China did or are you not fine  ??

 

Try reading my posts again, then. If you haven't figured it out - they got nothing to do with your nonsense.

[Morch]

4 minutes ago, scammed said:

china cant even begin to compete in an armed conflict,

they have zero force projection, but worse still is they cant even protect nearby sea lines, they couldnt even secure

the sea line to singapore

 

Said the armchair general.

[steven100]

1 minute ago, teacherclaire said:

I and most. Even most and I would be impolite, because not too many here share your political views. 

my political view has nothing to do with what China did and in my view it should be punished. Ask the other billion people who lost everything because of their stupidity  ....  !!! 

[steven100]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Try reading my posts again, then. If you haven't figured it out - they got nothing to do with your nonsense.

Morch, I honestly don't understand what you are trying to say.

Please tell me :   do you say you are fine with what China did or are you not fine  ??

thats it ....  please answer my question 

[from the home of CC]

30 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

So, in your World, China did not respond to anything? No foreign citizens arrested? No reaction to Trump's 'trade war'? No threats against countries refusing to play along?

 

No military posturing? As in not doing a flyby just last week near Taiwan? Not bases built in contested waters in the South China Sea? Neighbors not bullied out of the same waters? No escalations vs. India?

 

The rest of what you posted got little to do with the point raised with regard to that bit from your original post.

equivalent military posturing would be the Chinese sailing around the Catalinas or a buzz by bombers over the Bahamas. There's a lot of oil/gas under the seabed which the Chinese covet most imo. It's presently their neck of the woods and unless the Americans are willing to put millions of their citizens lives at risk over this then maybe they should go try to help the folks of Ukraine obtain democracy, if they're in such a  mood to be world saviors - but wait that might upset the other commies...  

[Morch]

22 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Morch, I honestly don't understand what you are trying to say.

Please tell me :   do you say you are fine with what China did or are you not fine  ??

thats it ....  please answer my question 

 

I'm not interested in your nonsense. You do not get to frame issues and topics into yes-no answers.

My posts are not more complicated than the complex world we live in. It's only your version of it that's simplistic.

[Morch]

36 minutes ago, teacherclaire said:

"We are the defenders of the motherland's aerial security; we have the confidence and ability to always defend the security of the motherland's skies," the air force wrote in a brief description for the video.

 

To me that sounds worse than the Wuhan Virus. 

 

The clip was lifted from a film, this sounds like old-school manga.

[steven100]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

I'm not interested in your nonsense. You do not get to frame issues and topics into yes-no answers.

My posts are not more complicated than the complex world we live in. It's only your version of it that's simplistic.

forget it if you can't answer a simple question .....   lol

[onebir]

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"We are the defenders of the motherland's aerial security; we have the confidence and ability to always defend the security of the motherland's skies,"

But we can't quite ween ourselves off the Chinglish...

[Morch]

17 minutes ago, from the home of CC said:

equivalent military posturing would be the Chinese sailing around the Catalinas or a buzz by bombers over the Bahamas. There's a lot of oil/gas under the seabed which the Chinese covet most imo. It's presently their neck of the woods and unless the Americans are willing to put millions of their citizens lives at risk over this then maybe they should go try to help the folks of Ukraine obtain democracy, if they're in such a  mood to be world saviors - but wait that might upset the other commies...  

 

Oh, I see - you moved the goalposts.

 

It's one thing to comment about the realities, or likelihood of conflict, retaliation and the rest. And quite different to claim China is not engaging in actions expressing it's dissatisfaction with pretty much everything it doesn't like or approve of.

 

I'm not claiming that there will be anything effectively done vs. China. Or even that there's some realistic option to do so. Take it a step further, not even sure what the grounds for such a thing would be.