plentyofnuttin Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: I am quite certain you misunderstood and that Trump did not ask a dead man to thank him . (BTW , I have no idea what you are referring to ) Actually, he was upset with McCain's family for not thanking him. After all, he did it so ungrudgingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, plentyofnuttin said: Actually, he was upset with McCain's family for not thanking him. After all, he did it so ungrudgingly. OK, just read about it . Trump gave McCain a state funeral and Trump felt that McCains family were ungrateful to him . No big deal , and completely different to what Eric claimed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plentyofnuttin Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Just now, CorpusChristie said: OK, just read about it . Trump gave McCain a state funeral and Trump felt that McCains family were ungrateful to him . No big deal , and completely different to what Eric claimed Except that it's untrue. Trump did not grant McCain a state funeral. And the reason for that is it's not the President's decision to make except in the case of former Presidents. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-trump-approve-john-mccain-funeral-claim-review-what-actually-happened/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, plentyofnuttin said: Except that it's untrue. Trump did not grant McCain a state funeral. And the reason for that is it's not the President's decision to make except in the case of former Presidents. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-trump-approve-john-mccain-funeral-claim-review-what-actually-happened/ You link states that that Trump authorised the use of an official aeroplane "McCain's casket did travel on a plane generally reserved for vice presidents and VIPs that is under the president's control. And the president has jurisdiction over the arrival and departure at Joint Base Andrews, a military facility owned by the Air Force, where the plane landed and took off." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post plentyofnuttin Posted September 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: You link states that that Trump authorised the use of an official aeroplane "McCain's casket did travel on a plane generally reserved for vice presidents and VIPs that is under the president's control. And the president has jurisdiction over the arrival and departure at Joint Base Andrews, a military facility owned by the Air Force, where the plane landed and took off." But not as the article noted and contrary to what Trump claimed, he did not grant permission for there to be a state funeral for McCain. Another falsehood chalked up to Trump. I guess for Trump supporters mitigating factors turn his lies into truths. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, plentyofnuttin said: But not as the article noted and contrary to what Trump claimed, he did not grant permission for there to be a state funeral for McCain. Another falsehood chalked up to Trump. I guess for Trump supporters mitigating factors turn his lies into truths. I promised myself not to keep talking about Trump are reading everything he says and analysis his words and its meaning . I spend way too much of my time talking and thinking about Trump , I'm going to promise myself NOT to open any threads up about him . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 16 minutes ago, plentyofnuttin said: But not as the article noted and contrary to what Trump claimed, he did not grant permission for there to be a state funeral for McCain. Another falsehood chalked up to Trump. I guess for Trump supporters mitigating factors turn his lies into truths. OK, give me a link where Trump claimed to have granted McCain a state funeral . I dont believe Trump ever claimed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: I promised myself not to keep talking about Trump are reading everything he says and analysis his words and its meaning . I spend way too much of my time talking and thinking about Trump , I'm going to promise myself NOT to open any threads up about him . Yes it must be tiresome defending the habitual liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Just now, Sujo said: Yes it must be tiresome defending the habitual liar. I spent most of my time pointing out lies by numerous posters on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted September 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: I spent most of my time pointing out lies by numerous posters on here And magnificently failing to do so. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, Morch said: And magnificently failing to do so. This should be included in the post of the year thread. I nearly spat out my whiskey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, Morch said: And magnificently failing to do so. I Pointed out a lie above in post #397 and earlier today a false claim that Trump supported the KKK and that he was a Grand Wizard (Although the last claim may have been humor) , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: I Pointed out a lie above in post #397 and earlier today a false claim that Trump supported the KKK and that he was a Grand Wizard (Although the last claim may have been humor) , 1. No u didnt. 2. Humor eludes some. 3. Will be tiring for u. 20,000 of his lies to defend. Edited September 26, 2020 by Sujo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Just now, Sujo said: 1. No u didnt. 2. Humor eludes some. OK, could you provide a link where Trump claimed to have granted MaCain a state funeral and also a link where Trump has supported the KKK ? Those were two claims made on this forum and I believe that both claims are lies . Prove me wrong by posting links that verify those claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnydrops Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 25 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: OK, could you provide a link where Trump claimed to have granted MaCain a state funeral and also a link where Trump has supported the KKK ? Those were two claims made on this forum and I believe that both claims are lies . Prove me wrong by posting links that verify those claims https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-tears-into-mccains-legacy-support-for-iraq-war-during-speech-to-ohio-plant-workers one I thought you would trust 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: OK, could you provide a link where Trump claimed to have granted MaCain a state funeral and also a link where Trump has supported the KKK ? Those were two claims made on this forum and I believe that both claims are lies . Prove me wrong by posting links that verify those claims Item #1 your hair splitting / being pedantic - you were given the link where it is clear what trump was insinuating. item#2 - you're correct, no known membership of KKK, but has a history of exploitation of 'blacks' when working with his father. trump does of course support white nationalism. as demonstrated by keeping Stephen Miller as a senior advisor. Trump has just announced he's declaring ANTIFA and KKK as terrorist organisations. Also $500 billion incentive for the African American community, though many (majority?) will view both activities as 'vote buying' being announced so close to the elections. https://www.mystateline.com/news/politics/trump-pledges-500b-to-black-communities-designates-kkk-antifa-as-terrorist-organizations/ Edited September 26, 2020 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, simple1 said: Item #1 your hair splitting / being pedantic - you were given the link where it is clear what trump was insinuating. No, the claim was that Trump lied when he stated that he authorised a state funeral for MaCain , whilst the reality is that Trump never made that claim in the first place . Trumps claim about giving MaCain the funeral he would have wanted can be explained in the way of Trump allowing Government aeroplanes to be used , which HE needed to authorize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, bunnydrops said: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-tears-into-mccains-legacy-support-for-iraq-war-during-speech-to-ohio-plant-workers one I thought you would trust “I endorsed him at his request, gave him the kind of funeral he wanted, which as president of the United States I had to approve,” Trump said." Yes, Trump authorised Macains body to be transported in Government aeroplanes , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: No, the claim was that Trump lied when he stated that he authorised a state funeral for MaCain , whilst the reality is that Trump never made that claim in the first place . Trumps claim about giving MaCain the funeral he would have wanted can be explained in the way of Trump allowing Government aeroplanes to be used , which HE needed to authorize As i said hair splitting / pedantic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: No, the claim was that Trump lied when he stated that he authorised a state funeral for MaCain , whilst the reality is that Trump never made that claim in the first place . Trumps claim about giving MaCain the funeral he would have wanted can be explained in the way of Trump allowing Government aeroplanes to be used , which HE needed to authorize From the link 'took credit for mccain's state funeral'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 1 minute ago, simple1 said: As i said hair splitting / pedantic As Trump authorised the flights, he is within his rights to make the claims he made , therefore he didnt lie . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, CorpusChristie said: I promised myself not to keep talking about Trump are reading everything he says and analysis his words and its meaning . I spend way too much of my time talking and thinking about Trump , I'm going to promise myself NOT to open any threads up about him . Not going to well so far, is it? 5 hours ago, CorpusChristie said: We are talking about the people jeering him at a funeral though and whether thats acceptable behavior , Seem to be talking about a whole lot of other things. I know, I know....posters are leprechauns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, Morch said: Seem to be talking about a whole lot of other things. Yes, answering a post with a random bit of abuse of a person, which has nothing to do with the question is rather odd : Q Is it socially acceptable to disrupt a funeral ? A Donald Trump is a blah blah blad and a blah blah blah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Yes, answering a post with a random bit of abuse of a person, which has nothing to do with the question is rather odd : Q Is it socially acceptable to disrupt a funeral ? A Donald Trump is a blah blah blad and a blah blah blah Then nasty leprechauns at it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plentyofnuttin Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, CorpusChristie said: I promised myself not to keep talking about Trump are reading everything he says and analysis his words and its meaning . I spend way too much of my time talking and thinking about Trump , I'm going to promise myself NOT to open any threads up about him . Coming up with ludicrous explanations for Trump's falsehoods must be very tiring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, plentyofnuttin said: Coming up with ludicrous explanations for Trump's falsehoods must be very tiring. Some people deliberately take what he says out of context so they can call him a liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plentyofnuttin Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Some people deliberately take what he says out of context so they can call him a liar His supporters generally baselessly allege that his comments are taken out of context in order to claim that he's not. A state funeral was not Trump's to give. You can't authorize what isn't in your remit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, plentyofnuttin said: His supporters generally baselessly allege that his comments are taken out of context in order to claim that he's not. A state funeral was not Trump's to give. You can't authorize what isn't in your remit. Yes, but Trump never did claim to authorise the state funeral . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plentyofnuttin Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said: Yes, but Trump never did claim to authorise the state funeral . Trump aims new blasts at McCain, claims credit for funeral “I gave him the kind of funeral that he wanted,” Trump told reporters at a campaign-style rally in Lima, Ohio. “I didn’t get (a) thank you but that’s OK.” https://apnews.com/article/b9cfac2db09c4aa884e9f17e5fcdf346 The kind of funeral McCain wanted was a state funeral. Trump didn't give that to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpusChristie Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, plentyofnuttin said: Trump aims new blasts at McCain, claims credit for funeral “I gave him the kind of funeral that he wanted,” Trump told reporters at a campaign-style rally in Lima, Ohio. “I didn’t get (a) thank you but that’s OK.” https://apnews.com/article/b9cfac2db09c4aa884e9f17e5fcdf346 The kind of funeral McCain wanted was a state funeral. Trump didn't give that to him. Trump authorised the use of Government aeroplanes for his body to be flown in , only Trump could authorise that , that is what Trump gave him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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