I normally wait a couple of minutes max at the platform during rush hour, but just had to wait about 10 minutes. I looked down the track and the train was not even at the station before the station I got on at yet.

 

This got me thinking, what are some reasons the BTS Skytrain is delayed and breaks down?

 

Sadly some people fall sick occasionally which is totally natural, but mechanically how can a skytrain that simply runs on electricity break down? (I am genuinely curious here, not trolling).

And don't say powercut ????

If you want a country where everything works, you have chosen the wrong one.

To answer your question: an uneducated population that doesn't want to take responsibility for anything, coupled with second-rate materials, shoddy workmanship, and faked inspections.

For the same reasons any complex system fails.

 

Just how "simple" do you think the BTS (or MRT) really is?

 

6 minutes ago, allane said:

If you want a country where everything works, you have chosen the wrong one.

To answer your question: an uneducated population that doesn't want to take responsibility for anything, coupled with second-rate materials, shoddy workmanship, and faked inspections.

I find the BTS and MRT very efficient 99.9% of the time. Do you actually use them? (Do you actually live in Thailand)

42 minutes ago, Noisyaircon2020 said:

And don't say powercut ????

Leaves on the track may do it......

14 hours ago, sungod said:

Leaves on the track may do it......

Or the wrong type of snow'

 

 

PS;  For non brits.  Both the above were reasons given in the past by British Rail for delayed/cancelled trains!

15 hours ago, Noisyaircon2020 said:

but mechanically how can a skytrain that simply runs on electricity break down?

Really ? Electricity powers the motors...yes there are motors and moving parts like gears and axles and such...amazing Thailand. Tracks also require maintenance and the electricity must be transmitted and regulated effectively before it gets to the train motor. All potential points of failure. It's not like an LED light where electricity flows and it glows.

14 hours ago, allane said:

If you want a country where everything works, you have chosen the wrong one.

To answer your question: an uneducated population that doesn't want to take responsibility for anything, coupled with second-rate materials, shoddy workmanship, and faked inspections.

BTS is a mess ! Utter shambles  failed outlived it's time 

Edited October 6, 20205 yr by pixelaoffy

7 minutes ago, pixelaoffy said:

BTS is a mess ! Utter shambles  failed outlived it's time 

Spend a few months taking the KL Monorail and you'll come crawling back..

1 minute ago, tonray said:

Spend a few months taking the KL Monorail and you'll come crawling back..

... or the London Underground.

25 minutes ago, heina said:

... or the London Underground.

Agreed.  The BTS Skytrain is a joy compared to the shambles that is London Underground!

18 hours ago, allane said:

If you want a country where everything works, you have chosen the wrong one.

To answer your question: an uneducated population

Have you read the OP? 

23 hours ago, sungod said:

Leaves on the track may do it......

Or the wrong type of snow......

 

 

8 hours ago, tonray said:

Spend a few months taking the KL Monorail and you'll come crawling back..

Or CityRail in Sydney !

The master of late train excuses...

"Eleven minutes late, staff difficulties, Hampton Wick."
"Eleven minutes late, signal failure at Vauxhall."
"Eleven minutes late, staff shortages, Nine Elms."
"Eleven minutes late, derailment of container truck, Raynes Park."
"Eleven minutes late, seasonal manpower shortages, Clapham Junction."
"Eleven minutes late, defective junction box, New Malden."
"Eleven minutes late, overheated axle at Berrylands."
"Eleven minutes late, defective axle at Wandsworth."
"Eleven minutes late, somebody had stolen the lines at Surbiton."

"Seventeen minutes late, defective bogey at Earlsfield."
"Seventeen minutes late, water seeping through the cables at Effingham Junction - there was a lot of Effingham and a good deal of Blindingham!"
"Twenty-two minutes late, black ice at Norbiton."
"Twenty-two minutes late, obstacles on the line at Berrylands."
"Twenty-two minutes late, badger ate a junction box at New Malden."
"Twenty-two minutes late, fed up by train delays, came by bike. Slow puncture at Peckham."
"Twenty-two minutes late, escaped puma, Chessington North."

 

9 hours ago, pixelaoffy said:

BTS is a mess ! Utter shambles  failed outlived it's time 

What are you droning on about? The BTS and the MRT are fantastic. Super efficient, almost always on time, fast, super clean and crazy convenient for beating traffic on the overly congested roads of Bangkok. I love the BTS and use it every chance I get. 

 

You want to experience broken down and outdated? Try the BART in the SF Bay area. Masses of homeless people hanging out everywhere, urine on the platforms and even in the cars. Graffiti everywhere. A system completely out of control. 

Anything man makes breaks down.

it breaks down occasionally so the maintenance crew have something to do. 

At least you can take a whiz in a dark corner of a NYC subway platform! I can almost smell the ozone!

Singularities mostly. Yep, all of them are singularities.

First of all, the BTS is based on German and Canadian technology. Secondly, the BTS trains are controlled from the central control room by computer, not by individual drivers who are only there to watch the doors. The Monorail trains will be completely driverless. The central computer estimates the number of passengers requiring collection at each station at any given time and then controls the interval of the trains arriving at each station. At peak hours the time between trains is around 2.5 mins. Off peak, late night etc., when passenger demand is low, the interval can be 10 minutes. Occasionally there is trouble with communication due to illegal use of the bandwidth on the frequency used by BTS/Bombardier. In the early days it was due to a taxi call station using the same frequency. BTS had to change to a different communication band. The BTS runs very well compared with many other mass transit systems in the world, just do the research.

 

entropy and lack of  attempts to slow  it down

10 hours ago, rwill said:

Anything man makes breaks down.

EVERYTHING breaks  down

On 10/5/2020 at 3:42 AM, allane said:

If you want a country where everything works, you have chosen the wrong one.

To answer your question: an uneducated population that doesn't want to take responsibility for anything, coupled with second-rate materials, shoddy workmanship, and faked inspections.

Why would you live in such a lousy country. Why not go home where everything is bright and shiny?  Please explain. It seems you are not doing the logical thing.

 

I assume you have personal knowledge of your accusations. True?

 

Weren't the BTS lines built by an Italian-Thai or a Japanese-Thai partnership? Please refresh my memory.

2 hours ago, bodga said:

EVERYTHING breaks  down

With the sad exception of man made plastics in the environment

On 10/6/2020 at 8:41 AM, heina said:

... or the London Underground.

Yep, I can recall many a happy hour waiting for a through Northern Line train on the Barnet Branch platform at Camden Town, to the sound of frequent trains rumbling through the tunnels to the Edgware Branch platform. That was during the era when the Northern Line was dubbed the Misery Line by the Evening Standard newspaper!

On 10/5/2020 at 5:42 PM, allane said:

If you want a country where everything works, you have chosen the wrong one.

To answer your question: an uneducated population that doesn't want to take responsibility for anything, coupled with second-rate materials, shoddy workmanship, and faked inspections.

Untrue.. The BTS is Siemens and supervised by them......

9 hours ago, elgenon said:

Why would you live in such a lousy country. Why not go home where everything is bright and shiny?  Please explain. It seems you are not doing the logical thing.

 

I assume you have personal knowledge of your accusations. True?

 

Weren't the BTS lines built by an Italian-Thai or a Japanese-Thai partnership? Please refresh my memory.

German i.e. Siemens

On 10/5/2020 at 5:42 PM, allane said:

If you want a country where everything works, you have chosen the wrong one.

To answer your question: an uneducated population that doesn't want to take responsibility for anything, coupled with second-rate materials, shoddy workmanship, and faked inspections.

 

What a load of racist bull**it!    

The BTS system has a very good record and is very professionally run by well trained employees.