Brexit brinkmanship: Johnson says prepare for no-deal, cancels trade talks

[david555]

4 minutes ago, vinny41 said:

And maybe quadruple survival food packages for the 3.5-4 million EU nationals living in the UK, maybe they could paint their bodies in the flag of the EU so it easy for the EU cargo planes to identify them during the airdrop

Just may sure the UK have been paid 1st.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"maybe they could paint their bodies in the flag of the EU so it easy for the EU cargo planes to identify them during the airdrop"

 

A bad idea , as you Brits go know the best pieces go be there .... to easy to identify them all those stars on blue ...and steal them from them ????

[sandyf]

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Just highlights what a difficult organization the EU is, and why it takes them years and sometimes decades to get anything done.

 

After 4.5 years and tens of billions of pounds the UK is still no closer to a deal with them. So lets just move on and go WTO. Leave them to squabble amongst themselves. We'll remain open to a fair, mutually beneficial FTA and as soon as the EU gets their house in order (my guess would be 2025) we can sign it. Until then, WFO with WTO.

The UK had the best deal it was ever going to get.

The difficult organisation is the one that wants all the benefits without it costing them anything.

Highlighted by Westminster wanting to keep Scotland and NI without paying any respect.

[transam]

7 minutes ago, sandyf said:

The UK had the best deal it was ever going to get.

The difficult organisation is the one that wants all the benefits without it costing them anything.

Highlighted by Westminster wanting to keep Scotland and NI without paying any respect.

What about our waters, have you forgotten we are keeping or waters...?

Second para is nonsense.....

[Hi from France]

1 hour ago, sandyf said:

The UK had the best deal it was ever going to get.

I beg to differ: the best deal was the top one, staying in the "l'Espace économique européen"

 

The European Free Trade Association (EFTA) was ... founded by the UK. 

 

 It was established on 3 May 1960 to serve as an alternative trade bloc for those European states that were unable or unwilling to join the then European Economic Community (EEC), the main predecessor of the EU

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Free_Trade_Association

 

Edited October 21, 2020 by Hi from France

[Rookiescot]

4 hours ago, transam said:

Then you tell me, why that at the last GE, the Lib Dems promised the 48% Brexit remain, and those Brexiteers that may have changed their mind, a 100% remain in the EU, YET, in the GE, voters left the Labour Party and the Lib Dems in their droves.... 

Now to anyone with half a brain would realise that the populace voted for Boris to get Brexit done....

Can you explain...?

Ah now thats more like it Trans.

A cutting question indeed.

The fact is there are few "floating" voters. People are simply not that politically engaged so they vote for what they always voted for. Which is usually the same party their parents voted for.

Now in the last GE you had a unique situation. Corbyn was as much use as a chocolate ashtray. Farages party only stood in seats where they could damage Labour (remember he stole the money from the candidates in other areas? Nice guy) and the Lib Dems have very little hope of winning anywhere. Voting for them in most constituencies is a wasted vote.

So the Brexiteer vote was focused on the Conservatives with their oven ready deal (lie) and everyone else was playing catch up.

Yes Johnson got his majority parliament (first past the post is a shockingly bad democratic system) but its not because he was better. He only got 43.6% of the vote compared to the 52% who voted for Brexit.

Its just everyone else was worse. 

This of course is only applicable to England. In Scotland we have someone better to vote for.

[Rookiescot]

4 hours ago, Tofer said:

Nah, you were too busy championing Mrs. Krankie, to really care about Brexit.

Should I now make a derogatory comment about Johnson?

Oh ok then. Bojo the clown. 

You see where this gets us? 

[Rookiescot]

4 hours ago, Tofer said:

I vote for a US Logan style Act, then we can hang Krankies treacherous lap dog, Blackford.

And once again. You refer to Scotlands First Minister in a derogatory term. Also you insinuate Ian Blackford is somehow a traitor.

You on a roll tonight boy.

[Matzzon]

On 10/17/2020 at 5:11 AM, transam said:

You weren't tired of UK cash, were you...?

Oh, you mean the one that has lost half it´s value? No, of course not! Who can get tired of that? Let´s just sink it a little bit more. Ask Mr Johnson. He knows exactly how to deal with that little insignificant problem.

[Tofer]

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

And once again. You refer to Scotlands First Minister in a derogatory term. Also you insinuate Ian Blackford is somehow a traitor.

You on a roll tonight boy.

He's been behind the back of the UK government, discussing ways to avert Brexit with, I think it was, Michael Charles. If he was in the US, he would be hung drawn and quartered, on the strength of the Logan Act, for interfering in government business, when he has no such mandate to do so.

[RayC]

10 hours ago, vogie said:

And you don't ask yourself why Labour were a failure, could it have anything to do with Starmers 'Peoples Vote' Jeremy was the only Brexiteer among them, you shudda listened to Corbyn and perhaps Starmer shudda too.

Labours defeat was nothing to do with pot holes on the public highway. ????????????

More Corbyn and less Starmer, and Labour would have fared better in the 2019 election? An "interesting" take on things????

[RayC]

2 hours ago, Tofer said:

He's been behind the back of the UK government, discussing ways to avert Brexit with, I think it was, Michael Charles. If he was in the US, he would be hung drawn and quartered, on the strength of the Logan Act, for interfering in government business, when he has no such mandate to do so.

Who is Michael Charles?

[nauseus]

A break in the dark clouds?

 

https://www.ft.com/content/720671e0-52f4-40b2-b17b-f34518ca4de8
Europe’s car manufacturers have called on Brussels to take a less restrictive stance on future market access to the UK, warning that aspects of the bloc’s current position are “not in the long-term interests of the EU automotive industry”.

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, RayC said:

Who is Michael Charles?

 

I think he means Charles Michel.

[Hi from France]

 

As I told you, we're back negotiating table a tweet by the "expert" negotiator, David Frost

 

 

[Scott]

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[JonnyF]

Talks are back on. The various countries within the EU have told Barnier to grow up and stop playing games with the future of their industries. 

[transam]

12 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Oh, you mean the one that has lost half it´s value? No, of course not! Who can get tired of that? Let´s just sink it a little bit more. Ask Mr Johnson. He knows exactly how to deal with that little insignificant problem.

????...................Whether the pound had lost value or not made NO difference to the cash sent to the EU, plus should not be of any concern to you, from across the channel.....????

 

 

[david555]

13 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Talks are back on. The various countries within the EU have told Barnier to grow up and stop playing games with the future of their industries. 

Mean time more  voices in the E.U. parlaiment bringing their red lines already in position , as "the Boris bill can not accepted" ,....again the "Fish ",...and the "levell playing field "....

Whatever comes out of renuwed talks ....27 different country's has to vote on ....unannimous, to become accepted ...!

???? 

I dont see what changed ????

 

[Scott]

Continued baiting, bickering and trolling will earn suspensions.  

 

[sandyf]

14 hours ago, Hi from France said:

I beg to differ: the best deal was the top one, staying in the "l'Espace économique européen"

 

The European Free Trade Association (EFTA) was ... founded by the UK. 

 

 It was established on 3 May 1960 to serve as an alternative trade bloc for those European states that were unable or unwilling to join the then European Economic Community (EEC), the main predecessor of the EU

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Free_Trade_Association

 

I would disagree. I was trading with Europe prior to the single market and that brought about huge benefits to the small exporter that were never there under EFTA.

[sandyf]

15 hours ago, transam said:

What about our waters, have you forgotten we are keeping or waters...?

Second para is nonsense.....

Whose waters? and who is keeping them?

[transam]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

Mean time more  voices in the E.U. parlaiment bringing their red lines already in position , as "the Boris bill can not accepted" ,....again the "Fish ",...and the "levell playing field "....

Whatever comes out of renuwed talks ....27 different country's has to vote on ....unannimous, to become accepted ...!

???? 

I dont see what changed ????

 

Which just shows how ridiculous the EU is, 27 to 1 is really a joke....The other EU countries that are thinking about leaving are taking this on board, their future in the U.S. of G......

[transam]

6 minutes ago, sandyf said:

Whose waters? and who is keeping them?

Are you new to the thread...?

[david555]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Which just shows how ridiculous the EU is, 27 to 1 is really a joke....The other EU countries that are thinking about leaving are taking this on board, their future in the U.S. of G......

Anything different in U.K....H.O.C....? ????

[JonnyF]

13 minutes ago, david555 said:

Mean time more  voices in the E.U. parlaiment bringing their red lines already in position , as "the Boris bill can not accepted" ,....again the "Fish ",...and the "levell playing field "....

Whatever comes out of renuwed talks ....27 different country's has to vote on ....unannimous, to become accepted ...!

???? 

I dont see what changed ????

 

Therein lies the problem. The French want our fish. The Germans want us to keep buying their overpriced cars with the fake emissions certificates. The EU themselves want to punish us for leaving and still control our legislature. 

 

So many disparate voices each with their own agendas, pretending to be a united front. Thank god we're out.

[Rookiescot]

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Which just shows how ridiculous the EU is, 27 to 1 is really a joke....The other EU countries that are thinking about leaving are taking this on board, their future in the U.S. of G......

Which EU countries are thinking of leaving?

[Rookiescot]

41 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Talks are back on. The various countries within the EU have told Barnier to grow up and stop playing games with the future of their industries. 

Johnson finally emerged from his hissy fit more like. 

Fact is the UK needs a deal more than the EU does.

Which is odd because all through the leave campaign we were told it was the other way round.

[transam]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

Anything different in U.K....H.O.C....? ????

Dunno, ain't been there for years.....Wos H.O.C....?

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Which EU countries are thinking of leaving?

Last I read, Italy and Hungary were not happy, probably others that keep things to their selves, bit like us Brits with their quest, well most of us.....

I listened to other member states in the EU parliament slagging off the EU over the treatment of the UK, there is obviously simmering going on....

[transam]

8 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Johnson finally emerged from his hissy fit more like. 

Fact is the UK needs a deal more than the EU does.

Which is odd because all through the leave campaign we were told it was the other way round.

Very funny comrade, especially from a UK national..........????