Three dead as woman beheaded in knife attack at French church

[Opl]

7 hours ago, Banana7 said:

Other news agencies are reporting the knife-wielding attacker shouting “Allahu Akbar” (God is Greatest).

on the same day , another plce

 A man armed with a long knife was arrested in the south-eastern French city of Lyon on Thursday (Oct 29) as he was about to board a tram, a source close to the inquiry told AFP. The suspect, an Afghan national in his 20s who was dressed in traditional Afghan clothes, had already been flagged to French intelligence services, the source said.

"He was carrying a 30cm knife and seemed ready to take action,

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/french-police-arrest-afghan-armed-with-knife

 

an another one

The French embassy in Saudi Arabia said the consulate in Jeddah was subject to a "knife attack which targeted a guard", adding that the guard was taken to hospital and his life was not in danger.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20201029-saudi-man-arrested-after-stabbing-guard-at-french-consulate-in-jeddah

 

 

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[simple1]

3 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

There is only one way to stop this behavior, and that is to make the result more severe than the initial crime. Every time it happens, deport 100 Muslim immigrants back to where they came from. Just round them up in arbitrary fashion and ship them out. Show them who is really running the country.

 

Which governments would accept forced deportation of innocent foreign nationals, or indeed of their own nationals -  it would be an act of government human rights abuse, close to the policies of extremists such as Nazism / Soviet communism. French government would be an international pariah.

[Deli]

And there are still politicians in Europe who let the boarders open for almost everybody... Europe, here you pay the price for your ignorance of the past.

[Opl]

3 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Which governments would accept forced deportation of innocent foreign nationals, or indeed of their own nationals -  it would be an act of government human rights abuse, close to the policies of extremists such as Nazism / Soviet communism. French government would be an international pariah.

 

To the Muslim World France is already an international pariah,  so what ?.. 

Enough of being shy to defend our country in fear of hurting Muslims' feelings 

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[4737 Carlin]

Celebrate the diversity. Diversity is a strength. Apparently.

[simple1]

3 minutes ago, Opl said:

 

To the Muslim World France is already an international pariah,  so what ?.. 

For some Muslims; in any case for the French government to go down the suggested path of forced deportation of innocents would, IMO, be an act of gross stupidity.

 

 

[Opl]

Just now, simple1 said:

For some Muslims; in any case for the French government to go down the suggested path of forced deportation of innocents would, IMO, be an act of gross stupidity.

 

 

 

[Stargeezr]

Sentence for this terrorist, remember this happened  in France.

Geezer

[Opl]

10 minutes ago, simple1 said:

For some Muslims; in any case for the French government to go down the suggested path of forced deportation of innocents would, IMO, be an act of gross stupidity.

 

 

We just deported a Croatian Muslim family who shaved and violently mistreated their daughter for dating a Christian Serbian..

We can change our laws too for instance deprive families of repeated outlaws and suspected islamists from social welfare benefits, chain migration rights, whatever..

We could change our laws concerning citizenship, we could change any law they use at their advantage against us.

The gross stupidity is to bury our heads in the sand believing it's a small minority. 

An even grosser stupidity would be to consider France is an exception 

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[bert bloggs]

24 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Which governments would accept forced deportation of innocent foreign nationals, or indeed of their own nationals -  it would be an act of government human rights abuse, close to the policies of extremists such as Nazism / Soviet communism. French government would be an international pariah.

Or like muslim govts and beliefs

[Opl]

7 minutes ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Sentence for this terrorist, remember this happened  in France.

Geezer

 

 

In fact this Guillotine, was an invention that aimed to provide a more "human" way to trespass, the beheading beeing less painful than the hatchet Islamists today use

      

[overherebc]

14 hours ago, greenhornfarang said:

Lets not let incidents like this distract everyone from France's commitment to diversity and inclusion, a powerful and ambitious approach to making France, and the world, a better, and safer, place. Remember, diversity is our strength!

 

And before anyone jumps to conclusions I would like to hear the suspect's side of the story, surely these attacks don't happen for no reason, the victim's must have provoked the attacker in one way or another. Let's wait for the full story to come out before passing on the blame.

In the words of Mr McEnroe

You cannot be serious.

[Opl]

3 minutes ago, overherebc said:

In the words of Mr McEnroe

You cannot be serious.

Wasn't it sarcasm? 

[overherebc]

20 minutes ago, Opl said:

Wasn't it sarcasm? 

'If' it was, it's a poor choice of subject for sarcasm.

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[Rimmer]

Some off topic posts attempting to hijack the topic have been removed, topic is NOT about China:

 

Three dead as woman beheaded in knife attack at French church

[John Drake]

11 hours ago, Ventenio said:

this is "civilization."   Tell me time in our history where there wasn't a place where people were brutally murdered.  for all we know, N. Korea, Africa, China, Siberia, etc......has much worse stuff going on this very second.  OK, you can include America, Mexico, S. America, Central America, etc.....where is it really safe?

 

with 8 billion people or whatever and increasing, this stuff isn't going away anytime soon.  it's crazy, that's for sure, but relatively it might not be.  but it might start to get much crazier.....

 

Well, there are lots of beheadings in Mexico. But they've become if not commonplace at least unsurprising. So nobody is shocked much by them anymore. France will become the same. The only question is whether to vacation in Nice or Cuernavaca. At this point, I say Cuernavaca. They ratio of beheadings seems to be bit lower.

[Ventenio]

3 minutes ago, John Drake said:

They ratio of beheadings seems to be bit lower.

The ratio of REPORTED be-headings.  For all we know, 100 heads just got cut off in the jungles of Costa Rica or in the Congo somewhere.  Remember the guillotine????????   

 

Nobody cares until it happens in some white, middle-class neighborhood.  Then the outrage!!!!!!   

 

I lived in the desert of Afghanistan for 11 years as an undercover camel.  Oh, i've seen some bad things......

[John Drake]

9 hours ago, dimitriv said:

 

 

It is nice to discuss things, but please don't twist the truth.

 

Malaysian ex-PM Mahathir says Muslims 'have right to kill French'

 

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20201029-malaysian-ex-pm-mahathir-says-muslims-have-right-to-kill-french

 

 

 

Think I'll cancel those plans for a post Covid trip to Malaysia.

[John Drake]

13 minutes ago, Ventenio said:

 

 

Off Topic

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[Opl]

18 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Well, there are lots of beheadings in Mexico. But they've become if not commonplace at least unsurprising. So nobody is shocked much by them anymore. France will become the same. The only question is whether to vacation in Nice or Cuernavaca. At this point, I say Cuernavaca. They ratio of beheadings seems to be bit lower.

You're right,  at least 3 terror attacks in France within a month, committed by young Muslim men: 18 y.o Chechen refugee  , 21 y.o Tunisian illegal migrant, 25 y.o Pakistani smuggled into France posing as an isolated minor along with his brothers

Open your heart - I mean your eyes

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[John Drake]

3 minutes ago, Opl said:

You're right,  at least 3 terror attacks in France within a month, committed by young Muslim men: 18 y.o Chechen refugee  , 21 y.o Tunisian illegal migrant, 25 y.o Pakistani smuggled into France posing as an isolated minor along with his brothers

Open your heart - I mean your eyes

 

Do French voters still have the opportunity to remedy their problem through elections? If so, why don't they?

[Opl]

5 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Do French voters still have the opportunity to remedy their problem through elections? If so, why don't they?

 

Next Presidential elections:  May 2022

From now on till 2022,  significant quick changes in Laws are needed to allow significant responses, not cosmetic ones. 

 

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[John Drake]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

 

Which governments would accept forced deportation of innocent foreign nationals, or indeed of their own nationals -  it would be an act of government human rights abuse, close to the policies of extremists such as Nazism / Soviet communism. French government would be an international pariah.

 

Not to mention that France is a Muslim country. The French ambassador to Sweden says so.

[John Drake]

5 minutes ago, Opl said:

 

Next Presidential elections:  May 2022

From now on till 2022,  significant quick changes in Laws are needed to allow significant responses, not cosmetic ones. 

 

 

But why will they react differently from the first Hebdo massacre? That was in 2015 and as a result you got Emmanuel. 

[Opl]

Just now, John Drake said:

 

But why will they react differently from the first Hebdo massacre? That was in 2015 and as a result you got Emmanuel. 

Macron isn't responsible for the decades long cowardice that lled to this situation.

Now that the breaking point has been reached, and too late, there will be no other choice, Turkey and other countries have released, to get rid of them and empty their prisons, detainees of all kinds, Islamists, criminals.. all potential migrants to Europe 

[John Drake]

1 minute ago, Opl said:

Now that the breaking point has been reached

 

I thought that the Bataclan was the breaking point. That's what everybody said at the time. But that breaking point just keeps bending.

[Sujo]

3 hours ago, Susco said:

 

Try Erdogan and Mahathir, they speak for millions of their followers

No they dont. Mahathir is about a hundred years old and his comments have been roundly condemned. I live in malaysia and his comments have not been well received.

[Sujo]

38 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

Think I'll cancel those plans for a post Covid trip to Malaysia.

Why, its fine here, a very tolerant country. But not much to do or see unless kl, langkawi or penang.

[Opl]

8 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

I thought that the Bataclan was the breaking point. That's what everybody said at the time. But that breaking point just keeps bending.

 

Bataclan occured under left wing Presidency in France, and French left is the World's most stupid one. It has allowed Islamist entryism in Unions, State, Public services for electoral purposes.

French people lean right-wing for some time now and still were resisting bringing far-right wing to power - The candidate opposing Macron was'nt up to the job.  

 

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[bert bloggs]

51 minutes ago, Ventenio said:

The ratio of REPORTED be-headings.  For all we know, 100 heads just got cut off in the jungles of Costa Rica or in the Congo somewhere.  Remember the guillotine????????   

 

Nobody cares until it happens in some white, middle-class neighborhood.  Then the outrage!!!!!!   

 

I lived in the desert of Afghanistan for 11 years as an undercover camel.  Oh, i've seen some bad things......

But thats in those countrys,we hopefully became civilized in the west and did away with it ,now they are bringing it with them ,well we prefere they stay in their hell holes ,we dont want them