Biden close to U.S. election victory as a defiant Trump vows to fight

[polpott]

6 minutes ago, Youlike said:

China will miss their big Biden friends soon when they're in jail, that's what corrupt leaders deserve.

Trump must be up for a life sentence then.

[tomauasia]

Biden useless big mistake. Old geriatric 

[xylophone]

51 minutes ago, robblok said:

Most of the Trump supporters on this forum know the race is run. They are awfully quiet thankfully not many are as crazy as Trump. 

trump certainly has his supporters who are not quite the "full quid" or who will believe anything he says, and I do believe some of them are crazy.

 

trump Jr doesn't seem to be the sharpest knife in the drawer either, and repeating what his idiot father has said doesn't make him look smart at all........

 

"US President donald trump has claimed coronavirus deaths in the United States are "way down", while his son Donald Jr says deaths are now at "almost nothing". 

AND.....Donald Jr called for "total war" over the election results.

"The best thing for America's future is for @realDonaldTrump to go to total war over this election to expose all of the fraud, cheating, dead/no longer in state voters, that has been going on for far too long. It's time to clean up this mess & stop looking like a banana republic!" he wrote 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-election-trump-jr-calls-for-total-war-vernon-jones-threatens-to-shoot-biden-supporters/2HVD4UHFCIJQD6S5PQJLSPC76U/ 

 

AND...... In footage, the top trump campaign surrogate tells a crowd: "We're starting now to see the white in their eyes and we're getting ready to start shooting." Next to him, Don Jr smiled.

 

Unbelievable that this is happening in a country that at one time the world looked up to as a beacon of truth, honesty and righteousness, with truly democratic processes. 

 

But perhaps these are desperate measures by the trump gang to try and protect their crimes, foreign income and backers???
 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

35 minutes ago, sucit said:

Peoples' opinions are driven by their hate of Trump. They don't actually think about the issues at hand, they just think "I hate Trump". That is their go to for everything. What then happens is they can't see erroneous polling data could have been very influential and could have been coordinated. Newscasters say "Trump is making false statements" when they have absolutely no journalistic material that proves he is making false statements. 

I don't think that's true. Most democrats are just waiting for the votes to be counted which, based on current results, indicates Biden is a likely winner.

The Biden rallies I see has people dancing. The Trump ones have people whining.

Trump is suggesting there is illegal votes being counted. No evidence has been provided of this. They have started various legal proceedings which is their right. So far they have failed in terms of substantive outcomes.

All the news services I have seen have  put it in these terms.

 

 

Edited November 7, 2020 by Fat is a type of crazy

[polpott]

23 minutes ago, sucit said:

Peoples' opinions are driven by their hate of Trump. They don't actually think about the issues at hand, they just think "I hate Trump". That is their go to for everything. What then happens is they can't see erroneous polling data could have been very influential and could have been coordinated. Newscasters say "Trump is making false statements" when they have absolutely no journalistic material that proves he is making false statements. 

Trump publicly claimed that he has won the election. He was pulled up by most media sources on that. It was a lie or are you saying that he has won the election? Trump has said that there has been widespread voter fraud without backing it up with one shred of evidence. Aren't the media right to pull him up on that?

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, sucit said:

When does the recount start?

pick me pick me pick me. When the voting is done.

[teacherclaire]

Should Trump lose, I hope that they deal with him as an ordinary person.

 

   Others go to jail for much less. 

[earlinclaifornia]

39 minutes ago, sucit said:

Peoples' opinions are driven by their hate of Trump. They don't actually think about the issues at hand, they just think "I hate Trump". That is their go to for everything. What then happens is they can't see erroneous polling data could have been very influential and could have been coordinated. Newscasters say "Trump is making false statements" when they have absolutely no journalistic material that proves he is making false statements. 

We do not hate trump We DO hate his supporters. He is exactly the person he has always been. Going to the Hate excuse is plain crazy. More like the way the supporters rationalize his BS daily. I read both the right and left blame the corrupt media owners. Only thing they do agree on.

[onthedarkside]

A post suggesting the possibility of widespread mail-in voter fraud, with no source or substantiation, has been removed, along with numerous replies.

 

[teacherclaire]

6 minutes ago, robblok said:

And that would not happen the other way around because Trump and his supporters are known for their honesty. ????

 

Plus that is still not the large scale your talking about. Plus it would come out if done this way. One would have to approach many people about this and the chances of people reporting this to others is large. This is not something that would stay secret. If it happened there would be reports about this as they would  have to contact many people and if you contact many people some are always going to talk.

 

So do tell me about the police reports filed on vote buying. (because that is what it basically is)

You're so da_n right. Some years ago, a top-rated show gave homeless people some free crack when they said yes to get teeth live on cam pulled and other idiotic stuff.

 

Millions of Americans loved this show, and I might never understand how you can do that to anybody. 

 

  I'm certain that both parties have their teams who buy votes by offering cash, food, or anything else. 

[ballpoint]

9 hours ago, Salerno said:

 

The gift that just keeps giving; has a US President ever had his passport withheld due to being a flight risk?

I'm sure that if they built a wall around him Mexico would gladly pay for it.

[CorpusChristie]

44 minutes ago, sucit said:

Peoples' opinions are driven by their hate of Trump. They don't actually think about the issues at hand, they just think "I hate Trump". That is their go to for everything. What then happens is they can't see erroneous polling data could have been very influential and could have been coordinated. Newscasters say "Trump is making false statements" when they have absolutely no journalistic material that proves he is making false statements. 

 

  It seems to be a strange phenomenon , some people seem to be unable to think about anything other then Trump . Their whole thought process seems to be plugged into Trump

[Paul Catton]

6 minutes ago, earlinclaifornia said:

We do not hate trump We DO hate his supporters. He is exactly the person he has always been. Going to the Hate excuse is plain crazy. More like the way the supporters rationalize his BS daily. I read both the right and left blame the corrupt media owners. Only thing they do agree on.

I support the current President DJ Trump, why do you hate me?

[polpott]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

 

  It seems to be a strange phenomenon , some people seem to be unable to think about anything other then Trump . Their whole thought process seems to be plugged into Trump

He was the POTUS and the worst most despicable one ever. Now we can talk about all the crimes he will be in court for. Years of fun.

[earlinclaifornia]

1 minute ago, Paul Catton said:

I support the current President DJ Trump, why do you hate me?

Pretty evident he is honestly the worst person I have ever listened too and anyone who believes him is a danger to society. 

[Fat is a type of crazy]

  

4 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   Not necessarily Grannies, any person that doesnt usually vote .

Actually in Florida they received 50 voter registrations listed as Democrat from dead people.  Sneaky Antifa. Do that 5000 times in the key states and they get their man in the White House.

Source CNN 30 October 2020

[dunroaming]

As stated earlier by polpott, Biden is leading in the popular vote but it should also be noted that Trump has also substantially increased his vote from 2016.  The USA is truly a country divided and is going to take a very long time to heal.

[earlinclaifornia]

5 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  It seems to be a strange phenomenon , some people seem to be unable to think about anything other then Trump . Their whole thought process seems to be plugged into Trump

I agree with you on this for sure  So bring I recall in 2016 Joe and his wife on MSNBC both Republicans were two both responsible for a daily deluge of trump. This continued as once he was empowered he never let up on screaming anything that would keep him in the spotlight 

[polpott]

8 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

  

Actually in Florida they received 50 voter registrations listed as Democrat from dead people.  Sneaky Antifa. Do that 5000 times in the key states and they get their man in the White House.

Source CNN 30 October 2020

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/30/us/broward-county-dead-people-register-to-vote/index.html

 

A ham fisted attempt that failed at the first hurdle. Although the majority of the dead people were registered Democrats that isn't evidence that the intention was to vote for the Democrat candidate.

 

Antifa is not mentioned.

Edited November 7, 2020 by polpott

[earlinclaifornia]

7 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

  

Actually in Florida they received 50 voter registrations listed as Democrat from dead people.  Sneaky Antifa. Do that 5000 times in the key states and they get their man in the White House.

Source CNN 30 October 2020

The link is where? thanks in advance

[polpott]

1 minute ago, earlinclaifornia said:

The link is where? thanks in advance

post above yours.

[wwest5829]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

Most of the Trump supporters on this forum know the race is run. They are awfully quiet thankfully not many are as crazy as Trump. 

 

Trump has every right to recounts, but his bias hate for mail in votes in time of a pandemic is nothing more then a farce. He knows that Democrats (the smarter part of the populace about covid) fears covid. While Trump his supporters don't fear it at all. So a larger percentage of those mailed in will be democrat votes.

 

So its just his way of not wanting Democrat votes to count. If anyone is trying to steal an election its the former president by disqualifying people who were smart enough to vote by mail and try to counter the current pandemic. 

 

What a pathetic little man to want to win by way of legal tricks and cheating. But actually that is all that he has done since he became president. All his lies have been exposed so often its just crazy that he still has a voting base.

Every right to recounts only where the difference in the number of votes falls within the state defined margin of possible error. For example, there exists no right to demand a recount where he lost by a sizable number of popular votes.

[CorpusChristie]

7 minutes ago, polpott said:

He was the POTUS and the worst most despicable one ever. Now we can talk about all the crimes he will be in court for. Years of fun.

 

  No, please just forget about him , I really cannot face four more years talking about Trump , I seem to end up talking about him everyday , I keep promising myself not to keep doing it, but, here I am again 

[earlinclaifornia]

4 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

As stated earlier by polpott, Biden is leading in the popular vote but it should also be noted that Trump has also substantially increased his vote from 2016.  The USA is truly a country divided and is going to take a very long time to heal.

His solid base came through and was only stopped as more that didn't approve of him was a larger base.

[polpott]

Just now, wwest5829 said:

Every right to recounts only where the difference in the number of votes falls within the state defined margin of possible error. For example, there exists no right to demand a recount where he lost by a sizable number of popular votes.

The recount in Georgia was requested by state officials for the reason you stated.

[Kelsall]

Why is it taking so long for Joe to declare victory?  Is there a problem?  ????

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  No, please just forget about him , I really cannot face four more years talking about Trump , I seem to end up talking about him everyday , I keep promising myself not to keep doing it, but, here I am again 

You may go crazy when his criminal cases start.

 

Its like the school bully, you cant help but enjoy him getting a dose of his own.

[earlinclaifornia]

3 minutes ago, polpott said:

The recount in Georgia was requested by state officials for the reason you stated.

Arizona needs a half percent but currently it is one percent.

[Sujo]

1 minute ago, Kelsall said:

Why is it taking so long for Joe to declare victory?  Is there a problem?  ????

Yes, the states havent declared who won until the votes are counted.

 

Only an idiot would declare victory early. Oh wait, donald did just that and as usual was wrong.

[CorpusChristie]

8 minutes ago, polpott said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/30/us/broward-county-dead-people-register-to-vote/index.html

 

A ham fisted attempt that failed at the first hurdle. Although the majority of the dead people were registered Democrats that isn't evidence that the intention was to vote for the Democrat candidate.

 

Antifa is not mentioned.

 

   That shows vote  fraud has been attempted , they probably tried other ways as well and didnt get caught