chest freezer, do you need to unfreeze them in Thailand ? Not automatic auto defrost ?

[questionsreplies]

hello,

do you know if we can find a chest freezer thay we never need to defrost ?

 

and if auto defrost do not exist, how often do you unfreeze them ?

 

Can you help to choose one please.

[RichCor]

You'll probably have to provide the forum with a bit more information.

 

Is this for commercial use, or home use? 

Will it be your:

• primary freezer (opened continuously throughout the week)
• secondary freezer (opened occasionally), or
• used as a 'deep freezer' and only opened a few times a month

 

 

 

[natway09]

Chest types used for long term storage opened say 3 times a day for 2 minutes defroet once a year

[canopus1969]

You defrost when the ‘frost’ builds up – that is dependent on various thinks e.g. how many times you open it, what you put in it (frozen or otherwise) and time of year – wet season when humid

[Retfed50]

As far as I can tell(from doing a lot of shopping), none of the chest freezers sold here are frost free. We did find a frost free upright freezer(Mitsubishi) at Home Pro a couple of years ago. It works great and not a bit of frost. The down side is that is on the small side.

[johng]

10 minutes ago, Retfed50 said:

a frost free upright freezer(Mitsubishi)

Me too  ????

 

[scoupeo]

1 minute ago, johng said:

Me too  ????

 

 

 

how much does it cost ?

 

 

[fangless]

I am led to believe that to make the deep freeze more efficient, if it is not full of frozen goodies, is too pack all the empty spaces with scrunched up newspapers inside cardboard boxes or large 3/4 full plastic bottles of water.  I was told this 20 years ago!

 

I am sure the experts will have an opinion!!

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2020 by fangless

[johng]

2 minutes ago, scoupeo said:

how much does it cost ?

 

11,000 baht  almost 2 years ago   it was more expensive ( per cubic foot) than the lay flat non frost free types

but suits our very small apartment better  using the space vertically rather than taking up more floor space and having to keep the lid opening area clear too.

[Crossy]

Ours probably gets opened twice a day. Defrost when the basket won't slide, probably every 18 months or so.

 

Madam just runs down the contents and moves all the stuff into our upright fridge-freezer (which is frost-free) whilst the big beastie thaws out.

 

At least it doesn't take long here.

 

Panasonic 13Cu ft, looks like the new version is auto-defrost https://www.homepro.co.th/p/1013416

 

[hugocnx]

Google translation of the specs: "With a hot air blowing system To defrost and water droplets"

Could that be a real auto-defrost one wonders? 

Edited November 19, 2020 by hugocnx

[dsj]

Check out PowerBuy, they have defrost free chest freezers, I have bought two of them over the last 10 years. I keep it outside on my balcony with a cover and the heat and humidity doesn't seem to affect it much, I had to replace my last one about 4-5 years ago.

https://www.powerbuy.co.th/en/home-appliance/refrigerators/freezers?m_defrosting=Automatic Defrosting,No Frost

[RichCor]

36 minutes ago, dsj said:

they have defrost free chest freezers,

??  Am I paying more or less for the missing defrost feature?

 

For those missing the joke... (defrost free ≠ frost free)

 

Edited November 19, 2020 by RichCor

[dsj]

I think the price is about the same.

https://www.powerbuy.co.th/en/home-appliance/refrigerators/freezers

[fangless]

29 minutes ago, RichCor said:

For those missing the joke... (defrost free ≠ frost free

I will give you a frozen smile for your effort!  

[Dumbastheycome]

4 hours ago, fangless said:

I am led to believe that to make the deep freeze more efficient, if it is not full of frozen goodies, is too pack all the empty spaces with scrunched up newspapers inside cardboard boxes or large 3/4 full plastic bottles of water.  I was told this 20 years ago!

 

I am sure the experts will have an opinion!!

 

 

 

 

 

That is  not as ridiculous as it  may sound. The logic of it is to  the reduce  the  volume of  air that need  be reduced  to  nominal freezing  temp. Is actually  more practical in an upright  freezer  because of the  volume of  cold air that  falls out  each time it is opened. A chest freezer loses  very little and  can be  minimized  by raising the lid  gently so as  to not  cause as   much interchange of air . Shop cabinet freezers  often have sliding  lids  which even when left  open  do not  cause  much disturbance .

Unless there is a  buildup of  ice  in a freezer there is  no practical need  to defrost it.

Auto  defrosting can  actually  reduce  the  food safe storage  time  in many  upright freezers .

But  people  love the  ice  free appearance!

 

[The Theory]

Mitsubishi frost free, but you need to defrost it every at least 2 years (for 24 Hr), if you use it a lot even less than 2 years. Ice internally (where the evaporator located) shall rich the climate control "damper" in long run, stuck damper could damage the climate control PCB. Don't hesitate to consult Mitsubishi Parts/Service center. 

Edited November 19, 2020 by The Theory

[The Fugitive]

12 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

That is  not as ridiculous as it  may sound. The logic of it is to  the reduce  the  volume of  air that need  be reduced  to  nominal freezing  temp. Is actually  more practical in an upright  freezer  because of the  volume of  cold air that  falls out  each time it is opened. A chest freezer loses  very little and  can be  minimized  by raising the lid  gently so as  to not  cause as   much interchange of air . Shop cabinet freezers  often have sliding  lids  which even when left  open  do not  cause  much disturbance .

Unless there is a  buildup of  ice  in a freezer there is  no practical need  to defrost it.

Auto  defrosting can  actually  reduce  the  food safe storage  time  in many  upright freezers .

But  people  love the  ice  free appearance!

 

Most helpful information. Thanks very much!

[rickudon]

I must admit i wouldn't want a frost free freezer. If it warms up enough to melt the frost, the contents will also warm up slightly - it will as already said reduce the life of frozen food.

[thailandbeachisland]

On 11/19/2020 at 9:10 PM, Dumbastheycome said:

That is  not as ridiculous as it  may sound. The logic of it is to  the reduce  the  volume of  air that need  be reduced  to  nominal freezing  temp. Is actually  more practical in an upright  freezer  because of the  volume of  cold air that  falls out  each time it is opened. A chest freezer loses  very little and  can be  minimized  by raising the lid  gently so as  to not  cause as   much interchange of air . Shop cabinet freezers  often have sliding  lids  which even when left  open  do not  cause  much disturbance .

Unless there is a  buildup of  ice  in a freezer there is  no practical need  to defrost it.

Auto  defrosting can  actually  reduce  the  food safe storage  time  in many  upright freezers .

But  people  love the  ice  free appearance!

 

 

so it's better to keep the freezer full ?!

 

 

[Dumbastheycome]

26 minutes ago, thailandbeachisland said:

 

so it's better to keep the freezer full ?!

 

 

Most opinion I have read says  yes. If my upright freezer starts to  get empty I fill as much  of it as practical with content from my  chest freezer and if that is  quite empty  fill it  with  closed  but empty freezer containers.

I don't get OCD about it though. lol

 

[fangless]

4 hours ago, thailandbeachisland said:

 

so it's better to keep the freezer full ?!

 

 

Yes.

[scoupeo]

so the chest are never auto defrost and the fridge style tall freezer cost double ? is it correct ?