Trump hints at 2024 run, Biden to meet with U.S. workers hit by pandemic

[harada]

3 hours ago, Walker88 said:

I very much doubt 45 will be a free man in 2024. NY State has him under investigation for a host of crimes, from bank and insurance fraud to tax evasion. No pardon will free him from justice at the State level.

 

As a non-sitting former POTUS, he won't even be able to hide behind the silly OLC ruling about a sitting POTUS being free from prosecution, so the various cases against him for sexual assault/rape (e.g., E Jean Caroll) will procede. Remember she has the un-laundered dress she wore when she alleges he raped her and will seek a sample of his DNA to match against stains on the dress. At the very least, if there's a DNA match, 45 will have to change his tune from the vile "She's not my type" to "It was consensual".

 

On his side, 45 has raised, via his bogus 'fraud' claims for which he has offered zero proof, almost $170 million of suckers' money to defend himself (at least with 75% of it, as the small print in his begging indicates), so as usual he will get others to pay for his own crimes or failures (like his 6 bankruptcies, which were ultimately paid for by the US Taxpayer, as stiffed banks and creditors could use their loss to write off tax liability).

 

Re his potential cases, NY State has all the documents and phone conversations given them by former 45 attorney Michael Cohen. Just as Cohen's material proved 45's willing participation in the payoff to Stormy Daniels, ending with 45 being an 'unindicted co-conspirator', the material could well prove all the charges re 45's bank and insurance fraud.

 

If convicted, jail is not only likely, but necessary. The US must demonstrate that ALL are equal under the law, even POTUSs. If a major economic power and democracy like South Korea can jail several of its former leaders, the supposed beacon of democracy and justice in the world (or so it claims), the US, must also jail those who break the law.

 

There's no Twitter from jail. 45 is likely to disappear without his Tweets.

Yep, that’s what I call democracy man, being able to run for President from inside Rikers Island.

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  You need to think outside the box to get results , try every means possible , thats how you get results

You get results by letting the experts do their job. Not by making them consider stupid things to waste their time.

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  You need to think outside the box to get results , try every means possible , thats how you get results

If it is such a respectable idea why did you start out by falsifying it?

 

[Opl]

this is not a troll, this is what a Trump follower is fighting for

"

“The great little dirty party of this is Donald Trump right now, Joy is raising money at a faster rate, to sort, of steal the election than he did when he was trying to win the election. And that’s what people need to understand. He’s raising more money now than he did when he was actually running for the job that he’s now trying to say that they stole from him! So, look, the grift is on, baby.”

Michael Steele Mocks Donald Trump For Raising More Money Now Then During Campaign Season (politicususa.com)

 

[CorpusChristie]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

If it is such a respectable idea why did you start out by falsifying it?

 

 

   I was talking about generally , not about this particular situation 

[CorpusChristie]

3 minutes ago, Sujo said:

You get results by letting the experts do their job. Not by making them consider stupid things to waste their time.

 

  Did the expert consider it and waste her time ?

[Jeffr2]

6 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  You need to think outside the box to get results , try every means possible , thats how you get results

Agreed!  But that should be done by medical experts, not politicians.  Sadly, he admitted he wanted to sideline the doctors.  That came out in a tape recording.  That I'm sure you are aware of.

[Jeffr2]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Did the expert consider it and waste her time ?

No.  But Trump wasted time and because of this, thousands died who shouldn't have.

[CorpusChristie]

Just now, Jeffr2 said:

Agreed!  But that should be done by medical experts, not politicians.  Sadly, he admitted he wanted to sideline the doctors.  That came out in a tape recording.  That I'm sure you are aware of.

 

  No, I dont listen to every word he says and dont investigate his statements or other peoples reaction to them , I just seem to end up talking about him everyday on this forum , explaining to people what he meant , gets tiring after a while 

[Tie Dye Samurai]

36 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  You need to think outside the box to get results , try every means possible , thats how you get results

So we can assume you will be one of the test subjects for this out of the box thinking with bleach and the virus? Dear President needs you...be a patriot.

[nobodysfriend]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

No he fidn't.. But  if he had said that, it would have been equally ridiculous. That's not how vaccines work.

 

[Tie Dye Samurai]

28 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  No, I dont listen to every word he says and dont investigate his statements or other peoples reaction to them , I just seem to end up talking about him everyday on this forum , explaining to people what he meant , gets tiring after a while 

Yes, blindly defending Dear President and always needing the last word must be very tiring...you should rest.

[CorpusChristie]

6 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

So we can assume you will be one of the test subjects for this out of the box thinking with bleach and the virus? Dear President needs you...be a patriot.

 

  No, no cure/jab came from the idea 

[bunnydrops]

3 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Having a $ 27 000 000 000 000 National debt, is hardly being "rich"

Trumps tax cut helped alot

 

CBO released its regular update to the economic and budget outlook on January 28. The new estimates show a deficit of $1 trillion for 2020. This is the equivalent of 4.6% of gross domestic product. The federal budget deficit will grow to 5.4% of GDP by 2030, according to GDP.

This is a much worse outlook for the current deficit than CBO showed just before Congress passed the Trump tax cuts. In June 2017, CBO anticipated a deficit of 3.6% of GDP for 2020. The current deficit is thus 27.8% greater than CBO projected before the tax cuts. Moreover, this one percentage point difference in the current projected deficit and the prior projection equals $221 billion for 2020. This is a substantial gap that follows in large part from the tax cuts, especially since the economy continued to grow during this time.

A temporarily larger deficit may be worth it, especially in a world of very low interest rates, if it translates into faster economic growth. But that is not what has happened. Economic growth increased briefly in early 2018 but quickly fell back to or even below the modest levels that persisted before the 2017 tax cuts (see figure below). Not all deficits are bad, but the ones from the supply-side tax cuts have proven to be.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianweller/2020/01/29/trumps-wasteful-tax-cuts-lead-to-continued-trillion-dollar-deficits-in-expanding-economy/?sh=27c4940c66c4

[pkspeaker]

just watched Trumps hour long speech, doesn't sound like he's interested in 2024 and didn't 'hint' at a 2024 bid, rather he is hunkering down.. the MSM - confirmation bias.  Trump's red-shirts are on the way next week..

[Jeffr2]

Trump and his attorneys are sure helping the dem candidates in GA!!!  Too funny.  Ya just can't make this stuff up.  Not very smart, are they.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/528508-pro-trump-attorneys-tell-georgians-not-to-vote-in-runoff-until-votes-are

Pro-Trump attorneys tell Georgians not to vote in runoff until votes are 'secure'

 

[onthedarkside]

OK, the diversion on Trump's past coronavirus-disinfectant comments has played out here.

 

Let's try to get back on the topic, which is:

 

Trump hints at 2024 run, Biden to meet with U.S. workers hit by pandemic

[Berkshire]

2 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Trump and his attorneys are sure helping the dem candidates in GA!!!  Too funny.  Ya just can't make this stuff up.  Not very smart, are they.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/528508-pro-trump-attorneys-tell-georgians-not-to-vote-in-runoff-until-votes-are

Pro-Trump attorneys tell Georgians not to vote in runoff until votes are 'secure'

 

I'm watching all that's unfolding in Georgia and it's funny as sht.  And then you've got Trump going down to GA this Saturday for a campaign rally.  No one has any idea what Trump is going to say.  Maybe it'll be something like this:  "THE ELECTION SYSTEM IN GEORGIA IS BROKEN!  AND IT'S RIGGED!  YOU ALL GOT CHEATED WHEN I LOST!  AND IT'S NOT FIXED!  YOUR VOTES DIDN'T MATTER THEN AND IT WILL NEVER MATTER!  Oh, and by the way, make sure you go vote for those two Republicans in January.  What's their names?  That woman and that guy."

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

Trump and his attorneys are sure helping the dem candidates in GA!!!  Too funny.  Ya just can't make this stuff up.  Not very smart, are they.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/528508-pro-trump-attorneys-tell-georgians-not-to-vote-in-runoff-until-votes-are

Pro-Trump attorneys tell Georgians not to vote in runoff until votes are 'secure'

 

Yes, absolutely.

But it's still going to be very long odds for the democrats to win both senate seats there.

The republican controlled voter suppression policies against poorer and minority Georgians are just too ingrained and powerful.

For example, people needing to wait all day to vote in such precincts. But thanks to Stacey Abrams for at least making this possible. I mean wow. Biden won Georgia but not North Carolina. That's a sea change.

[Lacessit]

3 hours ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   Yes, all those people out protesting on the streets , those people not socially distancing , those refusing to wear masks , all caused by Trump .

  Odd that you all call him a liar and dont believe anything he says , apart from when he said Covid isnt to be taken seriously as it would all blow over , you all believed that , that must be the only thing that hes ever said that you lot believed 

I always believed the virus was a serious threat. But then, I'm Australian and we tend to be more rational in our approach to crises. We don't run around like chooks that have had their heads chopped off.

Speaking of belief, have you contributed to his re-election campaign, which by all reports a major part is going straight into his pocket? Or are you a bit smarter than that?

[Jingthing]

11 minutes ago, pkspeaker said:

just watched Trumps hour long speech, doesn't sound like he's interested in 2024 and didn't 'hint' at a 2024 bid, rather he is hunkering down.. the MSM - confirmation bias.  Trump's red-shirts are on the way next week..

He's hunkering down to make more money. Don't kid yourself. He knows he's lost  this election. He's trying to protect and promote his other interests after January 20 as well as actively trying to sabotage the presidency of Joe Biden. The founders never imagined a president as toxic as Mr. Trump. He has broken all norms imaginable. 

[Berkshire]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes, absolutely.

But it's still going to be very long odds for the democrats to win both senate seats there.

The republican controlled voter suppression policies against poorer and minority Georgians are just too ingrained and powerful.

For example, people needing to wait all day to vote in such precincts. But thanks to Stacey Abrams for at least making this possible. I mean wow. Biden won Georgia but not North Carolina. That's a sea change.

You're right, it's a problem that not many are talking about.  Hopefully it'll be addressed...and right soon.

 

[Voter advocacy groups in Georgia filed a lawsuit on Wednesday asking a federal court to compel the state to restore nearly 200,000 names to its voter registration list ahead of the January runoff races for the state’s two Senate seats that will determine the balance of power in Washington.]

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-lawsuit-in-georgia-claims-that-nearly-200-000-registered-voters-were-improperly-purged/ar-BB1bzSWP?ocid=wispr

[onthedarkside]

A derogatory name calling post re Trump has been removed. Name calling is NOT OK for Trump here, just as it's NOT OK for Biden or anyone else.

 

If you're going to refer to people by name, use their correct names, please!

 

[Lacessit]

49 minutes ago, Tie Dye Samurai said:

Yes, blindly defending Dear President and always needing the last word must be very tiring...you should rest.

The defence of Trump by some posters is reminding me of Oscar Wilde's response to those defending fox-hunting, " the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible".

[CorpusChristie]

8 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I always believed the virus was a serious threat. But then, I'm Australian and we tend to be more rational in our approach to crises. We don't run around like chooks that have had their heads chopped off.

Speaking of belief, have you contributed to his re-election campaign, which by all reports a major part is going straight into his pocket? Or are you a bit smarter than that?

 

  I havent yet no, but do you have a link to the donation page ?

I can get my donation tax deducted 

[Lacessit]

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

 

  I havent yet no, but do you have a link to the donation page ?

I can get my donation tax deducted 

I've been looking for one myself, I want to donate - one cent at a time.

[placeholder]

9 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  I havent yet no, but do you have a link to the donation page ?

I can get my donation tax deducted 

Not if you're an American. Trump may be a basket case but donations to him aren't charitable.

[Jeffr2]

16 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

  I havent yet no, but do you have a link to the donation page ?

I can get my donation tax deducted 

You mean you can use the donation as a tax deduction?  The answer is no.  Seems many Trump supporters either don't know that or don't care.

 

https://blog.turbotax.intuit.com/tax-deductions-and-credits-2/are-your-political-campaign-contributions-tax-deductible-11380/

[CorpusChristie]

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Not if you're an American. Trump may be a basket case but donations to him aren't charitable.

 

  I am from the UK , not the USA

[pkspeaker]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He's hunkering down to make more money. Don't kid yourself. He knows he's lost  this election. He's trying to protect and promote his other interests after January 20 as well as actively trying to sabotage the presidency of Joe Biden. The founders never imagined a president as toxic as Mr. Trump. He has broken all norms imaginable. 

They never imagined voting without paper either, or voting by mail.. i'm not gonne get into the election fraud issue, obviously the Trump supporters think it happened.. I also heard this '3 star general mclearny' guy insisting that Trump launch a military putsch.. all trump needs is one batalion or whatever of armoured troops + his red shirts and he's got himself a Thailandese people power followed by coup thing.. or he can just give up and goto jail.. hmm ??